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Started by Fox Reeveheart, June 17, 2012, 03:07:36 pm
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Card Sagas Wars Discussion!
#1  June 17, 2012, 03:07:36 pm
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Basically you can't regularly discuss this project on the actual project thread (I mean just... wow man, really?), but I was told I can talk about it in here, so here we go!

So I wonder if 9 months is the norm between updates.  Because I can say with utmost honesty that there is no other project that I can even look forward to compared to this.  I'm 27 years old, I was there, a young kid when all of these series made their first debuts, though I may not have played all of those series, like Breath of Fire (Nina).

I have to wonder why you are keeping the "card theme" going.  I can only wonder if a few years back if you wanted cards to be an actual thing in the gameplay.  And while we haven't actually seen the character select screen, I wonder if they are in a sort of card form.  Cause even calling the support characters "cards" seems a little silly.  Is there perhaps some sort of card collection in the game that tells you how much of everything you have?  Like a card album you flip through with unlocked chars and support chars (only assuming you do not start with everyone).

I also looked back at all the old videos.  1st trailer seems to be just the bones of an idea, with 4 characters made for MUGEN and that was all you had.  Next trailer added a few more characters, then the actual "game" was added in later videos.  Brings me to the point, it's been over 3 years since your last trailer, could it be time for another?

I can only speculate whats happened in 9 months...
1) Valkyrie has her little adjustments made
2) Etna is complete
3) Lion is complete (this guy has been around since the 2nd trailer!  4 and a half years of development!)
4) Ivy and Chun-Li Are near complete if not complete
5) Advancements in other characters
6) A few more character reveals

This is actually my LESS than hopeful speculation.  If the roster is 20/36 revealed with only 10 essentially done (as of the last update) if only 4 characters were done after 9 months, that would make it 14/36 complete, which means we'd only have to wait..................... another 49-50 months if they updated right now, essentially another 4 years of just character creation.  Which I would think that is just a tease, I was looking at the old trailers talking about possible demos but nothing ever came of those, eh?  And I can only ASSUME that as the years pass on, you find yourself with less and less time to devote to this, so lets tack on a couple more months onto that and call it a cool 5 more years.

There is a TV tropes about this game, one of them says that Mai Shiranui was demoted to support card status.  My google-fu isn't helping me, so I can't confirm if this is true or just rumor.

What if the game is abandoned?  (We all hope this doesn't happen)  Will you release what you have in hopes that others will take up your mantle?

Is there an older Card Sagas Wars post to find around here?  Like I want to see if I can find the last update before the Valkyrie vs Lenneth one.  I want to see what was done at that point and how much more they got done between then and the current update.

All in all, I am ecstatic about what you guys are bringing to the table.  To an old gaming dinosaur like me, I can actually see this as the all mecca of fighting games, spanning across multiple genres and consoles.  Unfortunately Sony has tried their hand with their new SSB style game... and to be honest it looks terrible.  Could you guys show them how it's done?

Edit:  Here is the TV Tropes of Card Sagas Wars
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CardSagaWars

Also, ever think of making a wiki of this?
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#2  June 17, 2012, 03:25:44 pm
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Hold on there boy. Let's point out a few things to aid you before this gets dumped eh?
Basically you can't regularly discuss this project on the actual project thread (I mean just... wow man, really?), but I was told I can talk about it in here,
Who told you this? A thread like this to discuss a game that hasn't had any updates in a while is considered a waste of space by many here, if you want discussion then wait for an update at least, that always brings in discussion within the fans and creators.
Is there an older Card Sagas Wars post to find around here?  Like I want to see if I can find the last update before the Valkyrie vs Lenneth one.  I want to see what was done at that point and how much more they got done between then and the current update.
Look at the main thread, everything's mainly in there. If what you want isn't announced then don't get hopeful that it will.
All in all, I am ecstatic about what you guys are bringing to the table.  To an old gaming dinosaur like me, I can actually see this as the all mecca of fighting games, spanning across multiple genres and consoles.  Unfortunately Sony has tried their hand with their new SSB style game... and to be honest it looks terrible.  Could you guys show them how it's done?
It's nice to see people like it, but putting it on a console and making popular with the mainstream would cause all sorts of legal issues. With Mugen and Elecbyte themselves, and developers.
What if the game is abandoned?  (We all hope this doesn't happen)  Will you release what you have in hopes that others will take up your mantle?
PM the guy asking a simple "Is this dead?" question.
Edit:  Here is the TV Tropes of Card Sagas Wars
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CardSagaWars

Also, ever think of making a wiki of this?
It's a Mugen game, a wiki is too excessive, also a TV Tropes page? I doubt the creator invested in that, and instead some die hard rabid fanboy made it, such as yourself, so the info in there isn't always reliable.
Re: Card Sagas Wars Discussion!
#3  June 17, 2012, 03:37:44 pm
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Nurse Vanessa basically put it that way, I mean you can discuss it but only within certain parameters, and everything I wrote in the initial post was deleted.  Also told me that I can discuss this game openly here.

When did I say this was about putting it onto consoles?  THIS WILL NEVER EVER EVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRR GO ONTO A CONSOLE, I AM FINE WITH THAT!  They couldn't even if they wanted to.  I said this game spans series spanning multiple consoles, thats all!
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#4  June 17, 2012, 03:39:33 pm
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Basically you can't regularly discuss this project on the actual project thread (I mean just... wow man, really?), but I was told I can talk about it in here, so here we go!
Mostly because you bumped a topic to make a huge wall of text about things that are discussed in the first post/section of the topic and have been recently answered in posts directly above yours.

So I wonder if 9 months is the norm between updates. 
What do you want us to say? This project is not owed to us. Wait.

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Most of this is answered and discussed in the actual thread. If you spent as much time reading as you did ecstatically typing this post, then you would have all the answers to your post.

You're not censored for posting in the actual thread, you're censored from necro-bumping a topic that is, for the moment, not being updated. We do this to everyone and you're not specifically being picked on.
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#5  June 17, 2012, 03:43:06 pm
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Well I want to continue discussing it, and there is no official place to do so.  I was told posting my initial post here would be fine, therefore it shall be posted here.  (Their actual main site is no longer useable, they lost control, and I don't think it had a forum or anything like that anyways.

Unless one of you would like to provide and official place to discuss it.
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#6  June 17, 2012, 03:48:31 pm
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When did I say this was about putting it onto consoles?  THIS WILL NEVER EVER EVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRR GO ONTO A CONSOLE, I AM FINE WITH THAT!  They couldn't even if they wanted to.  I said this game spans series spanning multiple consoles, thats all!
Ah misread that.
Unless one of you would like to provide and official place to discuss it.
I suppose the main thread but it being inactive... I really don't think there's a place you can discuss it for the moment. Sorry.
Last Edit: June 17, 2012, 03:54:55 pm by Lith
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#7  June 17, 2012, 03:52:26 pm
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Well I want to continue discussing it, and there is no official place to do so.  I was told posting my initial post here would be fine, therefore it shall be posted here.  (Their actual main site is no longer useable, they lost control, and I don't think it had a forum or anything like that anyways.

Unless one of you would like to provide and official place to discuss it.
You can discuss it here. I was just telling you why your post in the ACTUAL Card Saga thread was deleted. I was also telling you that by thoroughly reading the thread, you would gain the answer to many of your questions. Your excitement is understandable, but try not to let that override your commonsense. You seem like a smart guy.



But yeah, man, it's a good project. 9 months is a long time for no progress, but there's nothing anyone here can say to you unless they're part of the actual project or they have information that is notably made public by the actual participants of this project.

As for your thoughts about a wiki -- wiki are usually done for things that already exist or have already existed. It sort of wouldn't make sense to make on now. But if you want to make a wiki on the game and fill it with speculative information, you're free to, but it won't be more than speculation and the wiki wouldn't have anything besides what you see in the first post and on the youtube channel. Not a very large or useful wiki.

Last Edit: June 17, 2012, 03:56:07 pm by Rajaa
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#8  June 17, 2012, 03:59:12 pm
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Well I want to continue discussing it, and there is no official place to do so.  I was told posting my initial post here would be fine, therefore it shall be posted here.  (Their actual main site is no longer useable, they lost control, and I don't think it had a forum or anything like that anyways.

Unless one of you would like to provide and official place to discuss it.
You can discuss it here. I was just telling you why your post in the ACTUAL Card Saga thread was deleted. I was also telling you that by thoroughly reading the thread, you would gain the answer to many of your questions. Your excitement is understandable, but try not to let that override your commonsense. You seem like a smart guy.

Darn right I'm excited!  I mean there is other games i'm looking forward to...

Mushroom Kingdom Fusion
Xeno Fighters R
Mega Man X Corrupted
Mega Man Unlimited

But none of those make my mouth water like CSW.  I mean what they are making I would almost consider to be an OFFICIAL MUGEN fighter (at least in my eyes).  And lets be honest, this is huge.  CSW has even had a kotaku article about it back in 2008!  As well as destructoid and other sites.

http://kotaku.com/355703/card-sagas-wars-a-smash-bros-for-the-16+bit-console-era

I gotta wonder now, do fan games in development have sub threads in places like gamefaqs?
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#9  June 17, 2012, 08:33:53 pm
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#10  June 17, 2012, 10:21:22 pm
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Card Sagas Wars?

Never heard

I wonder what was the reason to delate CSW project thread?
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#11  June 18, 2012, 03:50:35 am
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Card Sagas Wars?

Never heard

I wonder what was the reason to delate CSW project thread?

The thread wasn't deleted at all, it's just been sort of SEMI-closed, the usual open discussion isn't allowed anymore until the creators update.  So the kind of discussion allowed is restricted, here is the thread if you want to see it.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=93401.0

edit:  A few people have said I should just PM the guy

Well I tried and it won't let me cause his inbox is full!  So what do?
Last Edit: June 18, 2012, 05:50:12 am by Fox Reeveheart
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#12  June 18, 2012, 07:30:53 am
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#13  June 18, 2012, 07:37:46 am
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Card Sagas Wars?

Never heard

I wonder what was the reason to delate CSW project thread?

The thread wasn't deleted at all, it's just been sort of SEMI-closed, the usual open discussion isn't allowed anymore until the creators update.  So the kind of discussion allowed is restricted, here is the thread if you want to see it.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=93401.0

edit:  A few people have said I should just PM the guy

Well I tried and it won't let me cause his inbox is full!  So what do?
Calm down. You're coming off as a crazed fan who wets his pants around his favorite rock band. This isn't really that serious. Either we'll get updates on this game or it may never see the light of day. Move on, sit back, and stop hyping yourself up for a possible disappointment.

Be patient. What more do you want us to say? Be patient.
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#14  June 18, 2012, 08:15:15 am
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and put your pants back on. ;D [/jk]
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#15  June 18, 2012, 03:16:41 pm
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I have been patient o.o Infact looking at how many posts I've ever made in the project thread, it's 1-2 posts a year XD.  I chimed in every once in a blue moon.

Just noticed it's been 9 months since the last substantial update and about 6 months since his Ah's last post in there.  So I have this feeling that something is coming soon, and it's making me antsy in the pantsy!

I took about 2+ hours last night to look over the entire project thread.  Seems the mai/dedede demotion rumors were true  :'(  Also many other pictures that didn't go into the initial post!  Delicious palette swaps.  And knowing that Etna and Ivy were next on the table to be finished after Lenneth and Valkyrie.

I need to keep the hype train going.  I'll make it my duty!  I been posting about this game in chat rooms I frequent like Battle.net and the League of Legends Chat, as well as boards like /v/ in 4chan.  Which reminds me to make one as soon as I post this.  I MUST SPREAD THE WORD!

@Cybaster:  Funny you say that, cause I wasn't last night!
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#16  June 18, 2012, 08:36:13 pm
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#17  June 18, 2012, 11:07:59 pm
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and it's making me antsy in the pantsy!
dude chill the fuck out!..
I been posting about this game in chat rooms I frequent like Battle.net and the League of Legends Chat, as well as boards like /v/ in 4chan.
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I MUST SPREAD THE WORD!

this guy is too exited... probably had a hard on while posting on this thread

Something wrong with 4chan, son?  I will grant you that there is a lot of bad apples that really ruin it's reputation.  But 4chan has the most honest people in any community I ever visited.  And /v/ is their video game section FYI.

As for having a hard-on, no, only beautiful women do that to me.
And I am actually pretty chill (maybe too much so), but I will admit this game BLOWS MY F'IN MIND!

Only other thing I found out is that there will be self-insert characters of Ahruon and Orkimedes, it's likely they are refering to these avatars in the contact section of their old site that they no longer control.

http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/cont.htm
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#18  June 19, 2012, 12:54:14 am
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Something wrong with 4chan, son?  And /v/ is their video game section FYI.
I don't have a problem with 4chan, hell nobody gives a fuck about that.
But /v/? /v/ is not video games. It hasn't been for two years now, and it only got worse. You meant /vg/.
Besides, the use of "XD" only tells me you've been there once or twice or since the whole /b/eddit shitstorm.
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On the real though, this did not deserve its own thread.
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#19  June 19, 2012, 01:02:40 am
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On the real though, this did not deserve its own thread.

This. But at the same time, everyone who posts on that proect just to say "OMGZ I CANT WAIT, WHAT'S TAKING HIM SO LONG" will finally quit bumping the damn shit and just post here... which is actually kind of stupid because without updates there really isn't anything to discuss.

nevermind, this thread doesn't really need to exist. Just Wait. Like the rest of us
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#20  June 19, 2012, 01:06:50 am
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Something wrong with 4chan, son?  And /v/ is their video game section FYI.
I don't have a problem with 4chan, hell nobody gives a fuck about that.
But /v/? /v/ is not video games. It hasn't been for two years now, and it only got worse. You meant /vg/.
Besides, the use of "XD" only tells me you've been there once or twice or since the whole /b/eddit shitstorm.
Also lol League

nigga get the fuck outta heeeeeere


On the real though, this did not deserve its own thread.

No need for that language, and I been going to 4chan since a bit before last summer, and to /v/ since last fall.  I go nearly everyday o_o /vg/ is meant for video game series that often have a thread every single day, like League of Legends, TF2, Grand Strategy, Katawa Shoujo, etc.