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#1  February 09, 2014, 08:58:10 pm
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I'm sure this has been brought up before, but I couldn't find anything with a quick search.

There's no doubt that characters are the biggest draw when it comes to Mugen, but it'd be nice to shine a little light on the other contributions as well.  Stages, screenpacks, patches, etc. could be nominated and voted on monthly/yearly just like the Character of the Month/Year works now.  I say we could include anything that isn't a direct character release. 

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#2  February 09, 2014, 09:01:49 pm
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I agree with this. People put a lot of time and effort into making stages/screenpacks/etc

Don't they also deserve some sort of menial reward for their work as well?
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#3  February 09, 2014, 09:03:00 pm
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I thought about this some time ago too, I think it's a good idea, every month we get nice stages and other stuff, why not reward them?
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#4  February 09, 2014, 09:05:45 pm
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I was thinking if we could have a Stage of the Month for quite some time. But then again we do have the Stage of the Year competition. Also, ExShadow would most likely keep winning month after month, so I think that sadly nixes the SotM idea...
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#5  February 09, 2014, 09:06:58 pm
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Rewards are nice and all, but I was thinking more along the lines of better recognition.  When looking for new stuff to try, I'll usually go to the COTM threads and check out all of the nominated characters and sort of go from there.
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#6  February 09, 2014, 09:12:34 pm
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Also, ExShadow would most likely keep winning month after month, so I think that sadly nixes the SotM idea...

Personally, I see this as a poor reason to not have a competition.
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#7  February 09, 2014, 09:14:36 pm
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#8  February 09, 2014, 09:16:26 pm
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#9  February 09, 2014, 09:18:12 pm
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Characters are released way more frequently than other things. I think this should be a thing, but only yearly.
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#10  February 09, 2014, 09:20:32 pm
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You should pay more attention to release topics :P
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#11  February 09, 2014, 09:20:51 pm
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#12  February 09, 2014, 09:23:59 pm
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#13  February 09, 2014, 09:28:15 pm
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#14  February 09, 2014, 09:30:13 pm
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#15  February 09, 2014, 09:30:49 pm
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sounds like a good idea, that way people that generally about stages/addons at least will have the incentive to try the monthly winners.
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#16  February 09, 2014, 09:33:06 pm
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#17  February 09, 2014, 09:35:30 pm
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#18  February 09, 2014, 09:36:12 pm
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#19  February 09, 2014, 09:44:37 pm
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I´ll allow it. I can gladly admit Sabockee is a great paletter and he´s on my level or even better than me. The future for colors is good.
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#20  February 09, 2014, 09:45:19 pm
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#21  February 09, 2014, 09:46:04 pm
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#22  February 13, 2014, 08:45:42 am
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I don't think palettes should count. They require almost no effort; everyone and their dog does palettes and it'd be too complicated to go through them all.

The only "hard" part about palettes is that they're tedious. If given the option to outsource palettes, I do, because I can't be arsed to deal with doing it at least 6 times for the in-game palettes because I could be spending that time doing more fun things.
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#23  February 13, 2014, 09:48:16 am
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#24  February 13, 2014, 10:02:17 am
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#25  February 14, 2014, 01:41:56 am
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#26  February 14, 2014, 06:22:06 am
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Stages bi-annual. Every 6 months. That ensures you have enough time to get some truly good ones in there.

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#27  February 14, 2014, 06:28:26 am
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Palettes...eh. Not sure they're worth any awards. The rest I'm not going to comment on.
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#28  February 14, 2014, 06:32:42 am
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Oh come on, someone gotta give a recognition for trying to come up with something different each time when a template is posted, or trying to update older concepts constantly thanks to feedback and opinions :( I feel sad...
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#29  February 14, 2014, 06:43:37 am
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Thread specific palette award methinks?
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#30  February 14, 2014, 06:44:30 am
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palettes should be a separate user-run contest/challenge
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#31  February 14, 2014, 06:55:39 am
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Coming from someone who mainly makes palettes.. Honestly, it's a no from me as well.

While I think that they are worthy of recognition, It's... 85-15 in favor of not being worthy of awards. The 15 being there because I see palettes as visual appeal. I'd rather be staring at a nice, clean, colorful palette than a bad one.

palettes should be a separate user-run contest/challenge

I do agree with this, though.
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#32  February 14, 2014, 07:01:05 am
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I see it as a 95-5.

The 5 being you made a palette set for Giano/Ubu by Aiduzzi which is an incredible feat by itself.
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#33  February 14, 2014, 07:09:01 am
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^ I don´t even know how Psycho Krusher manages to do that. I was like "WHAT?!"
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#34  February 14, 2014, 07:10:51 am
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I see it as a 95-5.
Thinking about it a second time. Sounds about right. There's really no comparison when it comes to character/stage/sp releases to palettes. My aesthetic side was speaking for me. :P

Edit: This talk of Aiduzzi's chars really makes me want to make a palette or two for them..
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#35  February 14, 2014, 07:17:32 am
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Implying they deserve the same recognition as characters and other stuff is ridiculous in comparison, I just say they deserve a recognition of some kind if we are talking in those terms.
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#36  February 14, 2014, 10:14:00 am
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#37  February 14, 2014, 10:19:59 am
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So everyone that does a char, a stage or a screenpack... or anything in general.

Whatever, let´s drop it.
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#38  February 15, 2014, 08:24:30 pm
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Considering the initial idea was to have this function like the current COTM, I wouldn't envision too many palettes getting nominated in the first place.  However if someone created a palette that made everyone cream their respective jeans, why not give them the recognition?

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#39  February 15, 2014, 11:51:32 pm
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Because they don't require THAT much work unless the palette is completely unorganized.
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#40  February 16, 2014, 12:38:27 am
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Oh no, I agree with you, I just didn't want to write them off completely in the very rare case that a palette or palette set would get nominated for something like this. 

Now that I think about it though, some dingleberries would probably nominate them just to be super cool and ironic so perhaps it would be best to keep them off.
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#41  February 16, 2014, 02:00:32 am
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Hmmm... How about a feature like Contributor Spotlight similar to Thread of the Week??

Quite a few members have updated release lists of their Character Edits, Stages and Palettes on the first post of their threads (I have portraits), so why not shine some light on them by featuring them?? Amidst this star debacle, that's what came to mind.
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#42  February 16, 2014, 02:01:05 am
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Why not have 12 palettes for 1 contribution? Since there are 12 palettes per character most of the time.
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#43  February 16, 2014, 02:06:00 am
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Why not have 12 palettes for 1 contribution? Since there are 12 palettes per character most of the time.

I think 15 would be completely reasonable to have it be considered a bonafide release.
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#44  February 16, 2014, 02:12:58 am
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#45  February 16, 2014, 02:17:35 am
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now that somebody gave me a program to split a spritesheet into individual sprites I can finally finish and release my 300+ colors Kula sheet. Anyone who does an original palette for her and her companions definitely deserve some recognition :deal:
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#46  February 16, 2014, 02:18:27 am
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#47  February 16, 2014, 02:19:26 am
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That Mystique pal thing on Jmorph's Chun-Li. That thing deserves some recognition.
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#48  February 16, 2014, 05:27:29 am
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Why not have 12 palettes for 1 contribution? Since there are 12 palettes per character most of the time.
I forgot what year Infantry did this in the front page.  It had to do with palettes for monthly character winners or something.
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#49  February 16, 2014, 05:41:50 am
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That sounds like a good idea and I´ll rather enjoy doing that. BRB gonna do some palettes for Beavis.
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#50  February 16, 2014, 06:51:40 am
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A contributor who makes a smart palette that completely changes the look of a character to give them more outfit's than the normal color palette would allow is technically doing a lot more work art/time wise, than a character creator who rips sprites from a game or downloads a spritesheet and upload's them to the SFF.
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#51  February 16, 2014, 09:06:35 am
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How many people do you know who go off and make a fully seperated sprite set? It's not a high number.

Yeah, that's more difficult than the original task of ripping/sffing these days. But overall it's less difficult than making a cotm worthy character or, due to the fact it's mostly time consuming, a brilliant stage or screenpack.

Seperating an existing sff hasn't been mentioned though, it's just been about palettes. A palette on its own can't do as you say.


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#52  February 16, 2014, 10:18:10 am
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I would say more than 30 people right off the top of my head, but they don't normally post at MFG. More at Infinity, Chrono Crash etc... but I have seen a few creators here like Davismaximus & Rolento doing some cool things. I think a purple star is all that's really needed, but if an award was to be given once a year I think it should be for smart palettes. I personally would feel bad for the Mod who had to comb threw 500 enteries of Ryu with orange, yellow, red, purple colored shirts to pick a winner if it was just for normal palettes. I'm not even sure people would tune in to view the thread with all that chaos.
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#53  February 16, 2014, 01:06:18 pm
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#54  February 16, 2014, 04:48:31 pm
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I would say more than 30 people right off the top of my head, but they don't normally post at MFG. More at Infinity, Chrono Crash etc... but I have seen a few creators here like Davismaximus & Rolento doing some cool things. I think a purple star is all that's really needed, but if an award was to be given once a year I think it should be for smart palettes. I personally would feel bad for the Mod who had to comb threw 500 enteries of Ryu with orange, yellow, red, purple colored shirts to pick a winner if it was just for normal palettes. I'm not even sure people would tune in to view the thread with all that chaos.

You bring up a good point.

Since we already have the color purple designated for contributions, the only thing I could think of besides keeping things as they are is perhaps making different shades of purple to indicate what you contributed.

Either that or just keep things simple and as Contributor as it's been working just fine as is.
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#56  February 18, 2014, 07:11:02 am
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Why not have 12 palettes for 1 contribution? Since there are 12 palettes per character most of the time.
I forgot what year Infantry did this in the front page.  It had to do with palettes for monthly character winners or something.

lol because none of them could code shit and all the posting happened in the fucking shitpost board

is there something wrong that non-coders could find a way to celebrate their forms of contributions?
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#57  February 18, 2014, 07:34:04 am
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In that specific situation, yep. MI didn't have many coders. As such, they celebrated the one thing they could do, and then put it in the board that actually killed MI.


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#58  February 18, 2014, 07:40:12 am
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well asides from the shitpost thing i don't see how there is anything to deride about that, but if the whole point of derision is the fact they put that stuff in such a board, then welp i see your point.
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#59  February 18, 2014, 03:37:18 pm
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Stage of the Month could work, as long as the same user isn't allowed to win in succession since we would just have ExShadow winning every month.
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#60  February 18, 2014, 04:41:41 pm
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Yes, that could work.

An idea I had:
The one who wins SOTM (Stage of the month) doesn't have to be nominated for two months.

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Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#61  February 18, 2014, 11:38:23 pm
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Stage of the Month could work, as long as the same user isn't allowed to win in succession since we would just have ExShadow winning every month.

I think we should consider doing something for screenpacks/stages. Maybe bi-annually like Cyanide had originally suggested. The same user should be allowed to win in succession if he/she's constantly voted for IMO, you could hold it up to the people to nominate then hold a poll and vote their chosen creations like COTM/Y.

I think anything else such as lifebars, palettes, portraits, etc. shouldn't hold a competition.
Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#62  February 19, 2014, 07:50:49 am
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Stages can be more often. Screenpacks should either be bi-annual or annual. In addition to that, screenpack UPDATES should not be counted unless there is a SIGNIFICANT change (such as low res Win to Hi-Res 1.0).
Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#63  February 19, 2014, 08:14:16 am
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Bi-annual or annual awards for screenpacks sounds good.
Stage of the month kinda seems too often, but I agree with Jesuszilla that stages can be more often than once or twice a year.
Perhaps it could be every 3 months?
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Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#64  February 19, 2014, 05:11:54 pm
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I guess something official should be said here so this discussion doesn't go on for infinity :P

We need someone to volunteer to do these awards. Saikoro was interested in helping with the Character Awards so he may be interested here too.
Would there be a different star given or would I just rename the COTM star to Creation of the Month or something? Would we use a star that had been dropped like the orange one?

Anyway, who here would be interested in running it?
Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#65  February 19, 2014, 08:25:50 pm
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Alright everyone.

I'm taking the helm here for screenpacks and stages of the month. Right now I'm brainstorming ideas and they're mostly based off of what feedback I'll see through here along with some ideas I have.

I'm thinking along the lines of keeping it simple and very similar to how Character of the Month works. One idea I am rolling with is making separate threads for them. While that's obvious I wanted to state that fact. :P I'm also completely new to this procedure so I've got a few things to work with, iron out and learn.

Also, palettes will remain the same as portraits and be considered a contribution. I'm also leaning towards keeping contribution rules the same and leaving the purple star as is. Anyone can be a contributor but the extra stars will come from recognition from characters, screenpacks and stages.

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Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#66  February 21, 2014, 07:38:29 am
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Do we really need something like this for screenpacks? I really don't see how this would work to be completely honest, and they're really scarce. Shouldn't the award be that people use your screenpack and let that be good enough? I mean what makes a screenpack good? What makes one better than the other? Does something like an Hloader screenpack that focus on a good look and better image with lots of custom portraits beat something like Jesuszilla's and Jmorphman's screenpack edits that better in user preference and easier customization?

I know I don't really make these a lot and they're bare and decent at best but I just don't think you could compare and compete those so easily. That's just me though. :S
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Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#67  February 21, 2014, 05:07:03 pm
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Do we really need something like this for screenpacks? I really don't see how this would work to be completely honest, and they're really scarce. Shouldn't the award be that people use your screenpack and let that be good enough? I mean what makes a screenpack good? What makes one better than the other? Does something like an Hloader screenpack that focus on a good look and better image with lots of custom portraits beat something like Jesuszilla's and Jmorphman's screenpack edits that better in user preference and easier customization?

I know I don't really make these a lot and they're bare and decent at best but I just don't think you could compare and compete those so easily. That's just me though. :S

Hmmm... You bring up a good point. I'm using today as a brainstorming session and I'm going to start a thread asking for feedback regarding this. I'm aiming for Stages and Screenpacks but I suppose Stages will do fine by themselves.
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Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#68  February 22, 2014, 01:05:17 am
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I'm going to repeat my suggestion of "creation of the year/month". You could also consider a Misc. or wildcard category for all the stuff that doesn't fit in with characters/stages. A wildcard category could also include tools :yes:
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#69  February 22, 2014, 01:15:00 am
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I'm going to repeat my suggestion of "creation of the year/month". You could also consider a Misc. or wildcard category for all the stuff that doesn't fit in with characters/stages. A wildcard category could also include tools :yes:

I like the wildcard idea.

Fuel for the pondering flame.

I plan to make a thread come tomorrow since things at work got a little busy today. Expect a thread pertaining to all of this come Saturday or Sunday at the very latest. :mmhmm:
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Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#70  February 22, 2014, 05:00:20 am
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Do we really need something like this for screenpacks? I really don't see how this would work to be completely honest, and they're really scarce. Shouldn't the award be that people use your screenpack and let that be good enough? I mean what makes a screenpack good? What makes one better than the other? Does something like an Hloader screenpack that focus on a good look and better image with lots of custom portraits beat something like Jesuszilla's and Jmorphman's screenpack edits that better in user preference and easier customization?
I dunno, one could make the same argument for characters (totally accurate straight conversion from KOF vs. originally sprited character, or something).

Why not honor them, if only once a year or something?

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Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#71  February 22, 2014, 05:05:04 am
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I think yearly would be fine. There's a nice chunk of screenpack releases within the year usually.

@lith's point:

I see what you mean completely. But at the same time it's the same exact thing for characters and would be in any other competition that doesn't have a series of judges to decide what's the best.
Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#72  February 22, 2014, 05:55:40 am
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tbh with the different varieties of things you can make for mugen the logistics of choosing a winner for this would be completely chaotic. are we supposed to vote for a screenpack, stage, whatever each month?
not to mention non-character releases are slower than character ones, so instances where theres only one candidate may not be rare

if you really want a shiny star one thing we could do is to make a thread where people can suggest which contributor gets the title each month, it doesnt have to be a contest, really..

but thats just me, it seems more of a chore, sorry

     Posted: February 22, 2014, 06:09:21 am
stage of the month sounds reasonable. and doable.
Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#73  February 22, 2014, 06:12:02 am
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Stage of the month sounds good. We could do screenpacks and I dunno whatever else once a year.
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You guys are right.

Ban competitions, they create negativity.

Alright fine but let's leave that until 2015, I already have some ideas.
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Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#75  February 22, 2014, 08:25:29 am
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Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
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Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#81  February 25, 2014, 03:57:08 am
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Re: Contribution of the Month/Year
#82  February 26, 2014, 08:57:43 pm
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Not for Contribution of the Month/Year in my opinion.