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Cops shoot, kill black Mugen cosplayer
#1  November 28, 2014, 12:15:19 am
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#2  November 28, 2014, 12:18:12 am
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Yeah uhh, even if it's decorative and non-sharp, you probably shouldn't swing a sword around by cops

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#3  November 28, 2014, 12:22:59 am
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Why was he running away to begin with? or did I miss that in the video?

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#4  November 28, 2014, 12:24:31 am
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Vans said, January 15, 2014, 10:25:02 pm
I'm also under the impression that people keep neglecting data from the game, do you guys know how PotS made his original characters? He actually studied every single game he referenced, down to the core. Doing this properly requires understanding how the original system was made, not just winging it.

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#5  November 28, 2014, 12:27:24 am
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The footage shows that he was dressed as a samurai. His family says he was carrying a non-sharp replica sword, and was an anime fan who was cosplaying as a samurai character from a popular anime series. The cops shot him 6 times in the back while he was fleeing for his life. The video contradicts earlier statements by police that Hunt swung the sword at the police officers before they began shooting him.

Of course.

And I was just telling myself today that cops shouldn't be allowed to carry guns.

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#6  November 28, 2014, 12:28:56 am
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Oh dear God.....

Iced

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#7  November 28, 2014, 12:29:38 am
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Guys, running from the cops does not allow them to kill you. Lethal force is supposed to only be used if you are presenting a threat to someone, not if you arent obeying them.

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#8  November 28, 2014, 12:36:21 am
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#9  November 28, 2014, 12:51:52 am
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What happened to flashballs ? Tasers, any non-lethal alternative that can still knock out people from a distance without killing them ?
When there's such massive evidence that the cop went completely gun crazy with no immediate apparent threat to his life, he should be fired and judged as a civillian, not as a cop. Do child murderers get the death penalty ? But of course the police is going to stand behind him.
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#10  November 28, 2014, 01:01:26 am
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I think the sword is an excuse, I just see another cowarly racist attack here by white police, just like in Fergurson-Missouri

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#11  November 28, 2014, 01:01:49 am
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Titiln said, November 28, 2014, 12:36:21 am
considering all the crimes that are done using guns that's a fucking terrible idea

Given those conditions, yes I agree. But I'm sure it's not an atmosphere people want to live around, maybe except people who think it's cool to own a gun or something.

With the recent events involving cops needlessly shooting and killing people, rather easy to start feeling that way. I still stand by the sentiment in that change would have to start from somewhere (starting with civilians might be better, idk). America's gun culture is absolutely ridiculous, especially for a developed nation. Quite embarrassing personally.
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#12  November 28, 2014, 01:02:13 am
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Alpaca-San said, November 28, 2014, 12:24:31 am
And when told to drop your weapon, you should drop your weapon whether it's a toy or not.

I wanna hope this is an ironic post but I don't know you well enough to make that assumption

Orochi Gill said, November 28, 2014, 12:18:12 am
Yeah uhh, even if it's decorative and non-sharp, you probably shouldn't swing a sword around by cops

Do you plan on elaborating on this point or are you fine with leaving it at "he deserved to be shot and killed"?

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#13  November 28, 2014, 01:14:00 am
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Since when does swinging any sort of physical weapon, toy or otherwise, at a cop warrant getting fatally shot though.  Unless you're like military trained or something, having a physical melee weapon is gonna put you at a disadvantage to someone with a firearm, they don't NEED to fucking shoot you to death.  Just another story of cops being bullies with badges I guess. 

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#14  November 28, 2014, 01:14:35 am
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I never said he deserved death, good lord woman

I was just saying he was, regardless of if the cops did right or not, doing shit he shouldn't have been doing in the first place.

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#15  November 28, 2014, 01:16:45 am
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Why shouldn't he though?  Why does just having a weapon in public (a sword at that.  a fake sword at that) present such a problem?  If he was pointing a sword at someone and threatening them that would be a different matter.  You don't think it's a bit overkill to say "Well this guy has a sword, we should shoot him to death first and foremost?"

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#16  November 28, 2014, 01:19:31 am
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Maybe I should've worded it better.

Swinging things that look like weapons around is going to make cops antsy. Should he have been blown away? No. But should he have run? No. Should he have fooled around with the sword in front of them? No. While he did stuff he shouldn't have, the cops are probably more wrong as there are non-lethal ways to deal with that sort of stuff.

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#17  November 28, 2014, 01:26:12 am
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Iced said, November 28, 2014, 12:29:38 am
Guys, running from the cops does not allow them to kill you. Lethal force is supposed to only be used if you are presenting a threat to someone, not if you arent obeying them.

Not what I was implying. Just wondering what caused him to run away. To me, being not a US-citizen, the behaviour of the people shot (Brown, this guy and the 12year old kid), contradicts to what I would consider to be a normal reaction seeing a police man show up. I know the current discussion is all about racism, but in all these cases people did something that could have gone in the other direction too (- they could have hurt others, including the police, whether it may been with a gun or sword). To me this is clearly no legitimiate reason to shoot somebody down, yet I dont see the whole guilt on the police - there have been lots of incidents with people going crazy with guns so people expect the worst. If somebody runs or fights back that can probably lead to the wrong decision path easily. I dont know enough about US laws about carrying around weapons, but it sure is weird to fiddle them around in public, at people & the police.

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#18  November 28, 2014, 01:29:54 am
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a bystander reported Hunt "had his earbuds in, and was kind of doing spins and stuff, like pretending he's a samurai."
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The County Attorney's Office confirmed that when the officers showed up to respond to a 911 call about a man with a sword, Hunt asked them for a ride.

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Hunt was shot six times from behind. He was hit once in a shoulder, once in the back, once in an elbow, twice in a leg and once in a hand, according to the attorney.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/16/darrien-hunt-shot-in-the-back-by-utah-police-says-family-attorney
http://gawker.com/autopsy-cops-shot-black-anime-cosplayer-four-times-in-1652268367


how do you shoot someone six times in the back while they are attacking you after asking you for a ride?



@HQ:

this is legal:


HQ

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#19  November 28, 2014, 01:32:24 am
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ok, seeing what is legal, makes me wonder how people feel save around people that think they need a machine gun, or whatever these guns are, for shopping...

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#20  November 28, 2014, 01:33:55 am
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Yeah, I like to look at things from both sides (that's how you reach understanding, after all). But there's no ifs on this. This is a man who got shot for the crime of being a strange looking black man in the vicinity of trigger happy cops. All involved should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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