The Mugen Fighters Guild - Creating a irreversable/unreflectable move

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Creating a irreversable/unreflectable move

#1 June 04, 2009, 01:28:06 pm

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This shouldn't be possible.

Is it possible? All the moves that shouldn't be reversed or reflected can be in mugen with results of varying hilarity:

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PotS said, May 13, 2009, 11:32:35 pm

Is a mess. Needs sexy new coding to go with sexy sprites.

Ricepigeon

Re: Creating a irreversable/unreflectable move

#2 June 04, 2009, 02:44:28 pm

Mega Klinklang confirmed

Under normal circumstances, a Hitoverride alone should be enough to make the move irreversable or a projectile unreflectable. However, I found it also depends on the Reversaldef and whether or not the attr= parameter is omitted or not. If it's omitted, it's going to affect everything regardless of whether or not a hitoverride is active. Rare Akuma abuses this (yeah, I peeked at his code and even asked PotS about it, that's how I found out)

It could also have something to do with the opponent having a hitoverride active as well, which causes him/her to go into some kind of parry state or whatever the case may be, although this shouldn't cause projectile helpers to go into custom states if that's what the problem is (which I doubt)

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Alpaca-San said, February 09, 2014, 07:44:05 pm

You limit yourself so badly when you try to avoid variables. When you get over your fear of the "complexity" of variables, you will find yourself in a better place: A beautiful world where coding is actually fun.

Davod Sirloin

Re: Creating a irreversable/unreflectable move

#3 June 04, 2009, 04:07:51 pm

YOMI

Reversaldefs can send helpers into custom states and will ignore hitoverrides, so yeah he's right.

As for the above scenario, Rugal's Reversaldef was hit, that's the only requirement for that parry to work.

PotS

Re: Creating a irreversable/unreflectable move

#4 June 04, 2009, 06:29:30 pm

When I was young and had silly dreams, the projectile reflection pseudo-standard allowed moves to specify whether or not they were reflectable.

Either way Mugen's limitations aren't really game-breaking in this case, just not pretty. I'm sure Yamazaki just messed up somewhere.

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