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Started by Rajaa, January 17, 2010, 10:02:17 pm
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Dhalsim - New Style
#1  January 17, 2010, 10:02:17 pm
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What's been changed:

- No more chain combos.

- No more ex moves.

- No custom combo

- Can edit a line in the command to choose if you want his long attacks to be automatic, or annoyingly contricted with throws like in CvS2. Default is automatic.

- Juggling is very strict (No juggling recovering opponents or falling opponents); only juggling is allowed in some occasions and during super moves.

- Has all of his cancels from CvS2.

- Similar hit velocities and pauses to CvS2, to make for a Dhalsimish feel.

- Re-did some graphics: Hyper portrait; Hitsparks, Powercharge (should look much better than before)

Spoiler: Should look much better in motion, in Mugen (click to see content)

- Updated vigor mode, tried to make it very fair.

- Shouldn't hit opponents when his back is turned anymore with his Yoga flame; if it happens, i's inevitable... it's bound to happen.

- Tweaks to hitdefs, velocities, and restrictions, too much to list.

- Reduced the file size significantly.

- Adjusted the readme, which contains more information about Vigormode, and it should be read.

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Looking for feedback on the character and system. Thanks.
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#2  January 17, 2010, 10:21:46 pm
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Dannnng. This is tight. I still play with your other Dhalsim, but...this is a keeper. Great Job ;)
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#3  January 17, 2010, 10:26:05 pm
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Sweet new look Rajaa. And I knew you could pull off the BBB Hyper portrait look too. Jolly good show lol
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#4  January 17, 2010, 10:53:46 pm
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#5  January 17, 2010, 11:51:36 pm
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Nice work, Rajaa!
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#6  January 18, 2010, 12:09:10 am
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Good job, Dhalsim is a good character ^^
Re: Dhalsim - New Style
#7  January 18, 2010, 01:06:03 am
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I just tried out the new version of Dhalsim. The only thing I found during the Vigor mode is that it drains too slow (Is that intentional?). Here's some suggestions on him:

- How about changing the hitspark sounds to the ones P.o.t.S used from his Geese, Cammy and E. Honda? They still feel like the original CvS2 to me (The hitsparks themselves are fine, just not the sounds).
- A new 120 x 140 portrait (A similar style like your other characters).
- Ever plan on making an SF4 soundpack as an alternate voice?

Nothing else I can suggest for now, thanks for the release. Hope you update all your characters with this new style. :sugoi:
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#8  January 18, 2010, 01:22:54 am
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Awesome job my friend downloading him now. :o
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#9  January 18, 2010, 05:16:33 am
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Thanks, guys. I'm glad you like him. :D



The only thing I found during the Vigor mode is that it drains too slow (Is that intentional?).

It's supposed to do that, there are way too many other ways for Vigor Mode to end, so I made it as slow as possible, considering the other factors. He can be knocked out of it by if he is guarding or if he is hit, and he can't air-guard. He loses it when his power is below 500, so the vigor moves will handle that. Even so, if vigor mode were to last the whole match, it'd be the incompetence of the opponent, or the skill of the vigor user; maybe both.

- How about changing the hitspark sounds to the ones P.o.t.S used from his Geese, Cammy and E. Honda? They still feel like the original CvS2 to me (The hitsparks themselves are fine, just not the sounds).

Not those, I don't think so, but I will try out different hitsounds, because I have that option. :)

- A new 120 x 140 portrait (A similar style like your other characters).

Why? He's already brown-skinned.

- Ever plan on making an SF4 soundpack as an alternate voice?

I planned on it, but decided not to doit. It's not that hard a task, though. So if someone really wanted it done, they could do it themselves.

Nothing else I can suggest for now, thanks for the release. Hope you update all your characters with this new style. :sugoi:

I plan on doing so, and thank you for the suggestions and feedback, I appreciate it. :)
Last Edit: January 18, 2010, 05:27:04 am by Rajaa
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#10  January 18, 2010, 05:34:38 am
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It's supposed to do that, there are way to many other ways for Vigor Mode to end, so I made it as slow as possible considering the other factors. He can be knocked out of it by being guarded or hit, and h can't airguard. He loses it when power is below 500 so the vigor moves will handle that if one decides to do it. Even so, if vigor mode were to last the whole match, it'd be the incompetence of the opponent, or the skill of the vigor user; maybe both.
Oh, never knew how does it work. Thanks for the info.

Not those, I don't think so, but I will try out different hitsounds, because I have that option. :)
Alright, whatever hitsound suits you the best.

Why? He's already brown-skinned.
I don't know, I only said that at random. To me, it looks like a regular Dhalsim portrait. I thought most of your custom palettes on your characters have that custom color on the portrait.

I planned on it, but decided not to doit. It's not that hard a task, though. So if someone really wanted it done, they could do it themselves.
I guess I can do it when I'm bored.

I plan on doing so, and thank you for the suggestions and feedback, I appreciate it. :)
No problem. If I find anything else, I'll let ya know.
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#11  January 18, 2010, 09:01:54 am
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Nice hyper portrait. Its very Rajaa now, which i guess is the point.

Don't add the name of the move i dont think it would go. Its nice the way it is.
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#12  January 18, 2010, 06:53:53 pm
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For some reason, I can't do the short range normals by holding back or downback oh wait, readme. :oops:

Job. Will continue testing and will update this post if i find anything out of the ordinary.
Is a mess. :gonk: Needs sexy new coding to go with sexy sprites.
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#13  January 18, 2010, 07:35:57 pm
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Very nice update. :)
Vigor mode is much more interesting now, and using it can be rewarding. :yes:

I'm not too keen on the hitsparks. Looks like they were rescaled a lot by a sloppy program. :S
Update to 1.0 and let people use Crazy Koopa's hitsparks !!! >:( :P

About the new super portrait, the idea is really nice, and it's kinda well done, but I don't like the fact that the borders are plain red. They would be much much better if there was some slight gradient from red to black (black being near the border of the screen), with some red ink dots beside the portrait.

Concerning general gameplay, I have not much to say, as he plays very well. He's harder to combo with, because of strict juggling, but that's the new style anyway, so it's all good.

Which version of Dhalsim is it already ? Version 5 or 6 ? ;P
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#14  January 18, 2010, 08:01:16 pm
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Solidzone:

I don't know, I only said that at random. To me, it looks like a regular Dhalsim portrait. I thought most of your custom palettes on your characters have that custom color on the portrait.

It is a regular Dhalsim portrait, do you want me to make Dhalsim burnt? Lol, he's already brown.
No problem. If I find anything else, I'll let ya know.
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Geese:

Nice hyper portrait. Its very Rajaa now, which i guess is the point.

Don't add the name of the move i dont think it would go. Its nice the way it is.

I'm going to try to see how ti looks anyway. Anything else to say about gameplay?


Koopakoot:

For some reason, I can't do the short range normals by holding back or downback oh wait, readme. :oops:

Job. Will continue testing and will update this post if i find anything out of the ordinary.

Yup, read that read me. Lol.

Thanks for testing. I just want to make sure there are no bugs, so I asked some people who know how thigs should work for the type of system I was aiming for, and I'm waiting for Wild Tengu.


Cybaster:

Very nice update. :)
Vigor mode is much more interesting now, and using it can be rewarding. :yes:

 :)

I'm not too keen on the hitsparks. Looks like they were rescaled a lot by a sloppy program. :S
Update to 1.0 and let people use Crazy Koopa's hitsparks !!! >:( :P

I used Paintshop-Pro and Photoshop. >_> Not to just drop what you're saying, but they look absolutely fine to me. I secretly re-uploaded him with better quality ones. But who knows which one you have.  :P

About the new super portrait, the idea is really nice, and it's kinda well done, but I don't like the fact that the borders are plain red. They would be much much better if there was some slight gradient from red to black (black being near the border of the screen), with some red ink dots beside the portrait.

Agreed. I'm going to add more life to the portrait, thanks for the ideas! ^_^

Concerning general gameplay, I have not much to say, as he plays very well. He's harder to combo with, because of strict juggling, but that's the new style anyway, so it's all good.

Yup, that's the point, the limited juggling makes for a more tactical battle; I was tired of comboing opponents to death. He can still do his given cancels, though, watch AI, or test it out for yourself.

Which version of Dhalsim is it already ? Version 5 or 6 ? ;P

I don't even know anymore. I should keep a version history starting now. Do you know about the never released version where I made Akuma appear in his moves as a tag partner? I'm not even joking either. Lol.
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#15  January 18, 2010, 10:17:15 pm
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Gameplay wise i think its your best yet. I wouldn't strip down anymore, as you risk it becoming too vanilla.

Vigor mode works, and I have nothing against it. Personally i think its too complicated a system. Theres a lot of things to know about how it works. This is really an unnessessary personal opinion, because gameplay wise It works great.

I like how the top and bottom boarders of the hyper portrait have a shredded paper or cloth look to them. Maybe adding some depth to the boarders would make it look pseudo 3d, Just a thought.
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#16  January 18, 2010, 11:01:31 pm
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Do you know about the never released version where I made Akuma appear in his moves as a tag partner? I'm not even joking either. Lol.
LOLWUT. Didn't know about this one. But really, you should put a LULz or old section on your site, and re-upload the 1st version of Dhalsim (with the grooves removed). It really was fun to play with him (even though he was overpowered).
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#17  January 18, 2010, 11:04:03 pm
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You mean the one with CvS sprites?
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#18  January 18, 2010, 11:35:29 pm
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Dunno if the sprites were CVS, but this Dhalsim had one or two CVS Groove bars, yeah (K-Groove, to be more precise).
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#19  January 19, 2010, 05:57:56 am
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This version is also cool like previous versions. Delivers well on hits. Good job.
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#20  January 19, 2010, 11:51:35 am
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Gameplay wise i think its your best yet. I wouldn't strip down anymore, as you risk it becoming too vanilla.

What flavor pf ice cream would you call it now?  ;P

Vigor mode works, and I have nothing against it. Personally i think its too complicated a system. Theres a lot of things to know about how it works. This is really an unnessessary personal opinion, because gameplay wise It works great.

Please post if you do!

I like how the top and bottom boarders of the hyper portrait have a shredded paper or cloth look to them. Maybe adding some depth to the boarders would make it look pseudo 3d, Just a thought.

I'm going to liven the portrait! I'll try to apply what Cybaster said, maybe I'll try the name of the move coming by, and maybe I'll try some paint looking blotches.

Do you know about the never released version where I made Akuma appear in his moves as a tag partner? I'm not even joking either. Lol.
LOLWUT. Didn't know about this one. But really, you should put a LULz or old section on your site, and re-upload the 1st version of Dhalsim (with the grooves removed). It really was fun to play with him (even though he was overpowered).

I would do that, but I deleted that version when I gave my old laptop to my mother. The earliest version I have is like 3 versions ago. The Akuma one is lost for good, and the groove bars would lead to me searching the net. Maybe I'll make a joke character like that now, with better coding and stuff. I want to do a joke character, actually, seems fun!

Thanks Laquak! =)