[MFG]maximilianjenus said, September 06, 2014, 10:43:43 pmin the workplace it does not matter how "good" youa re so iq and preparation are secondary, what matter is how effective youa re at doing your workThere's that too.Still stand by my general view (clearly not the majority in this) but looking back, definitely not my best choice of words (rather baseless to assume everyone's a certain way). Surprised it took that long to get an unfavorable reaction tbh. That said:Nucka said, September 06, 2014, 02:36:33 pmStar Fucker said, September 06, 2014, 02:34:53 pmopposing viewpointstates working "moron job" for opposing viewpoint.I don't think that's the best barometer for determining what someone does for a living. Come on, really?
Nucka said, September 06, 2014, 02:29:18 pmFast food jobs are moron jobs. I know we're past this, but i felt the need to comment on this. I found it offensive since I currently work in fast food. Though we prefer the term quick service in my store, lol. I can partially agree with you, certain fast food jobs really don't require any sort of knowledge, it mostly tests your emotions and physical capabilities. But there's definitely parts of these jobs that aren't "moron jobs." I'd like to see you try and make a weekly schedule for about 45 people when 25-36 of them are high school kids asking off for prom/school events and the other half are senior employees that expect to have a consistent 40 hours a week. Something very simple like that is not only incredibly difficult and stressful, but you can never please everyone and there's always a handful of angry people at you, leading a team isn't anything easy either, picking up everyone's slack and taking the blame for things you had no clue about all for the sake of less argument. Filling truck orders, keeping within the budget while still trying to make sure everything in the store is stocked to its full capacity, and dealing with a plethora of assholes in between. There's plenty of mind testing jobs within fast food, I wouldn't generalize all fast food places based on the places you've attended to form your opinion. It may not be hard to get the job, and it may require a lot less credentials than the average job but at least it's a job, and that doesn't make it any less hard-work than any other jobs. I'm sure there's plenty of people sitting at desks that aren't qualified for it at all. Beyond that, I'd like to think that there is no such thing as a "moron job." At least those older workers in fast food are making an effort to do something, hell, there's people that age just siting at home still depending on someone else to pay for everything for them. I have respect for anyone that has a job whatever it may be, money's money and they're doing what they have to do. The moron's to me are the ones sitting at home doing nothing. Plus, you've got to start somewhere, you gotta respect a teenager that actually goes out and gets a job to get what they need rather than going to mom & dad. That's about 70% of peoples first job. As far as the raises go, I don't make anything even close to 15 an hour, and I'd like to think I do a lot more than the average fast food employee. But I also worked my way up from a whopping 7.75 to almost 3 dollars more in the span of 3 months. If you're putting in the effort and it's noticed, I think a raise within that store specifically should be considered. Bumping the minimum wage up to that much would be nice but it's a terrible idea to me. I'd love to make more money, but I can earn it.
On your whole first big paragraph, I'd assume he was only thinking about the lower ranking people, the ones at the stoves, the ones at the counter, and the ones cleaning up. Not the ones managing the place or the ones with any responsibility.Niitris said, September 08, 2014, 01:49:35 pmI don't think that's the best barometer for determining what someone does for a living. Come on, really?Don't worry, he's just stupid.I bet he works at a fast food.