Jmorphman said, September 05, 2014, 05:31:10 pm And people who work full time on minimum wage simply can't survive. No one wantsjmorphman_ebooks
Jmorphman said, September 05, 2014, 05:45:33 pmIced said, September 05, 2014, 05:43:37 pmjmorphman irritantingly long posts full of links.Hey buddy, fuck you!You are not wikipedia!http://www.wikipedia.org/at most you are like a poor's man yahoo question section.https://answers.yahoo.com/
I hate you all.Titiln said, September 05, 2014, 05:49:33 pmjmorphman_ebooksI really hope I'm not some sort elaborate art project that, when revealed, ruins the beauty and majesty of all my posts.
Iced said, September 05, 2014, 05:51:09 pmYou are not wikipedia!http://www.wikipedia.org/at most you are like a poor's man yahoo question section.https://answers.yahoo.com/source plz
In the area I live, the average apartment is going to set you back about 500 a month. That's usually without utilities so you may as well bump that to 600(even the subsidised housing carries a min of 425 a month before utilities, but a family of 2 needs to make less than 26k a year iirc to qualify). At 8.85 an hour, Im taking home about 900-950 a month usually (after taxes). Assuming your car is paid for(mine isnt. My other vehicle died and I was talked into building credit via a car), you still have insurance, gas, and food. Cheapest you'll get around here for insurance is like 40 bucks for the minimum(mine is 100). You also need to factor in pop up expenses(clothes for work, medical costs, phone, etc).I work 72 hours each pay check(the way the pay cycle works). At 8.85, I literally cant survive on my own here. My fiance works fast food and she rarely gets hours. Its a high stress, minimum return job. Its not worth the pittance she makes(usually less than 200 every two weeks). If my car was payed off, Id be barely making it(gas for my car ranges from 150-200 a month). The cost of living here is fairly high. Not exactly Cali or New York bad, but when milk is like 4.50 a gallon and gas is between 3.30 and 4 something a gallon, you just cant survive on minimum wage.It should be tied to inflation with a minimum it cant drop below. Something in the 10-12 dollar range based on what the change has been. I could get by easily with that. Not rich, but at least I could potentially think about retiring with something someday. Im considering actual careers, but cant afford college
Too bad Switzerland rejected the minimum wage proposal of 25$ per hour, or I would have gone to work in a McDonalds there. Or not.
Star Fucker said, September 06, 2014, 01:06:14 pmOr not.Yeah, it would have been hard work, right Mr. rocket scientist ?
Fast food jobs are moron jobs. If people didn't care how they got their food, McDonald's would be a giant vending machine. It's all by the numbers and machines are more than capable of handling every facet of those jobs. But for now people need to be served by other people...that don't deserve $15 an hour. You can make money in this country if you want to. You just gotta be a little disciplined and a little driven and a little creative.
Nucka said, September 06, 2014, 02:29:18 pmFast food jobs are moron jobs. Truth, doesn't take a genius to do one of those.I've always been told "get paid for what you know." That reminds me to go visit some place today about tax filing classes.
Star Fucker said, September 06, 2014, 02:34:53 pmBecause everybody can be the new Mark Zuckerberg, living the American Dream !Which fast food restaurant do you work for?
I can't fathom why would anyone be for a minimum wage that isn't enough for a person to get by, pay rent, food, utilities...
Nucka said, September 06, 2014, 02:36:33 pmWhich fast food restaurant do you work for?What's your point exactly ?
Bea said, September 06, 2014, 02:57:24 pmI can't fathom why would anyone be for a minimum wage that isn't enough for a person to get by, pay rent, food, utilities...It makes perfect sense for an employer to think that way, but none for an average, wage earner Joe to do so. America isn't a fucking third world country, and you working class aren't slaves, a person with a formal job working 48 hours a week shouldn't need to look for a second job just to make ends meet. Even if it is the most insignificant, expendable job in society (and it isn't) it should pay enough to survive.
Nucka said, September 06, 2014, 02:29:18 pmso they dont deserve living wages is what you are sayingyour idea of moron jobs doesnt actually translate to easy jobs either
Chopped Liver said, September 06, 2014, 03:48:56 pmBea said, September 06, 2014, 02:57:24 pmI can't fathom why would anyone be for a minimum wage that isn't enough for a person to get by, pay rent, food, utilities...It makes perfect sense for an employer to think that way, but none for an average, wage earner Joe to do so. America isn't a fucking third world country, and you working class aren't slaves, a person with a formal job working 48 hours a week shouldn't need to look for a second job just to make ends meet. Even if it is the most insignificant, expendable job in society (and it isn't) it should pay enough to survive.Well, I am an employer and I can't understand that way of thinking. An employee that is paid a decent wage produces way more.