The Mugen Fighters Guild - Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

S.D.

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3161 November 30, 2014, 02:40:42 am

ゴゴゴゴゴ

Oh my post was moved here.
I don't care anymore, as I said in my PM, the reply you moved (Which I thought you deleted until now) was a bit guaranteed after he lashed out at me for my question, but you also explained your point and the language barrier issue so bleh, Cyan Paul also has some good points at the staff section (One being his terrible skills at dealing with interaction and conversations, for one good reason he just pissed off people who actually replies to his recommendation so there's that) so I'll just agree to disagree, I'm hiding his posts anyways.

Speedpreacher

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3162 November 30, 2014, 02:41:17 am

All my machines are made for destruction.

Ryūku Tsukuyomi said, November 30, 2014, 02:36:37 am

I think we should make a "Manga Anime" News topic, this would avoid such problems imo.

Wouldn't that fall under "the generic entertainment news thread"? (which I think is already getting cluttered with news that can fall under other threads, personally)

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3163 November 30, 2014, 02:43:20 am

i will meditate and then write a really epic post
jai ho

btw, i will reiterate the reason he barely responds now is that he was told by upper staff to ignore users who antagonize him over his posting. so he was specifically instructed it was okay for him to ignore you, because nothing good has come of it thus far.

i will agree his lashing out was unwarranted, but up until now he has been ignoring you all to avoid conflict (as he was told)

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3164 November 30, 2014, 02:43:56 am

Omega again, huh?

So, he said he wanted to get opinions on a particular series, which would require being open to people he may not be on good terms with. He gets opinions, and makes a statement that shows he either misunderstood (in which he could've asked again) or failed to acknowledge the comments he got in that very thread. Chances are, the response won't be very kind (especially with his history).

And not seeing where any rules was broken in regards to what triggered everything (the news link thing). No one retorted with outright insults or disparaging of character. If Omega was that annoyed with what anyone posted, he would've used the report function (which he has used before) or said something in response. He eventually did the latter, but not before intervention took place. I recognize his history and whatnot, but the reaction he got was reasonable and none of the reactions were disproportionate.

DKDC

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3165 November 30, 2014, 02:45:25 am

You're treating this as if it was a one time incident. You don't understand that this is all he ever does.

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you are grouping up with other people and attacking someone who bullies you because he doesnt cooperate and align himself with you.

That's just complete bullshit. No one asked him to do everything like us, you're going to a massive extreme. We're getting mad because he doesn't even understand the common courtesy of acknowledging other people's existence since always (still not talking about an isolated incident here).

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by your own admission, its because it "irritates" you that he doesnt want to have a discussion with you or listen to you.

You're going in the completely wrong direction. First, people are talking to him like a normal person, then his lack of response is what annoys people. He doesn't ignore people because him talking annoys, them, people get annoyed BECAUSE he won't react when they're trying to talk to him.

And if you told him to ignore everyone, then that was some fucking terrible advice when people are NOT antagonizing him. How do social connections even work when you do that ?

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3166 November 30, 2014, 02:45:41 am

No cupcakes 4 u

SD has the right idea on the matter, ignoring him is the best way to go. I can understand the initial response, but you keep on going in on it and he obviously isn't changing how he's acting towards it and you just come out looking like a bully. When putting him on ignore could save everyone a headache.

I mean you guys EVEN KNOW it's not a one time thing, you know what you're getting from him, but you still insist on responding to him and not ignoring. It's like walking by a dog you know will bite you, but you keep going by it every time and telling it to stop, when all it does is keep biting you.

LurkerSupreme

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3167 November 30, 2014, 02:46:58 am

No meaning to me, just an empty box.

Ryūku Tsukuyomi said, November 30, 2014, 02:36:37 am

I think we should make a "Manga Anime" News topic, this would avoid such problems imo.

It already performs as a "doesn't deserve it's own thread" thread that just has more peppered discussions than usual. That isn't really the problem here.

DKDC

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3168 November 30, 2014, 02:49:17 am

Neocide said, November 30, 2014, 02:45:41 am

but you keep on going in on it

There's been, like, three or five replies to him in the thread this started in (oh, and they weren't even attacking him, they were making fun of him for one post each until Umezono jumped in). Everything after that was staff trying to tell people to back off after the conversation was finished, just because Omega complained. Don't mix up what's happening here with people "keeping going at it".

Oh yeah, that was a nice one too. Came out of freaking nowhere, talk about aggressive behavior.
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Ryūku Tsukuyomi

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3169 November 30, 2014, 02:49:39 am

Umezono said, November 30, 2014, 02:38:49 am

we dont moderate antisocial behavior and we dont tolerate bullying. him "acting like the answers dont exist" is not wrong.

i will not repeat myself on this.

him asking if anyone watched a show, getting responses that it sucked, and then saying "well i saw some comments ,im gonna watch it, thanks anyway" does NOT justify your behavior. your behavior is or at least can be seen as elitist; you are grouping up with other people and attacking someone because he doesnt cooperate and align himself with you. you cant frame this in any other way. by your own admission, its because it "irritates" you that he doesnt want to have a discussion with you or listen to you.

Don't put everyone in the same bag, what I was trying to make him understand is why his behavior is a problem. I was not bullying him I was just trying to make him understand why he should think twice before posting and thats what I get:

Omega said, November 29, 2014, 11:58:23 pm

I said I ignore 3 of them. Go away and sprite your Recoome.

I won't post here anymore.

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S.D.

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3170 November 30, 2014, 02:50:58 am

ゴゴゴゴゴ

Umezono said, November 30, 2014, 02:43:20 am

btw, i will reiterate the reason he barely responds now is that he was told by upper staff to ignore users who antagonize him over his posting. so he was specifically instructed it was okay for him to ignore you, because nothing good has come of it thus far.

I don't see why you're mentioning this since my point wasn't about him ignoring me (It was pretty clear he was doing that already, and I don't honestly care) but ignoring other users who reply to his recommendation posts and how he also just lashed out at some if them today.
Again whatever, I'm already ignoring him and I'm not losing much (Other than the flow of some conversations) since I check all the sites he tends to repost links from.

I don't think a thread just for anime news is even worth it, the existing thread suffices.

Speedpreacher

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3171 November 30, 2014, 02:53:42 am

All my machines are made for destruction.

Neocide said, November 30, 2014, 02:45:41 am

SD has the right idea on the matter, ignoring him is the best way to go.

You're right, clearly the answer is just to ignore any questions from him. It's either not an earnest question at all or he's already made up his mind anyway. Who wants to risk moderation over the possible appearance of impropriety?

Umezono

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3172 November 30, 2014, 02:54:24 am

i will meditate and then write a really epic post
jai ho

for the last time, he did not specifically ask for opinions, he aske dif anyone had watched it. and if he was referring to the comments or not when he said he wanted to watch it is really of no issue. the responses derailed the thread yet again with the purpose of antagonizing him for his decisions.

considering the fact that nobody owns him or his opinions, and he didnt even specifically ask for opinions, the reaction was indeed disproportionate.

DKDC said, November 30, 2014, 02:45:25 am

You're treating this as if it was a one time incident. You don't understand that this is all he ever does.
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you are grouping up with other people and attacking someone who bullies you because he doesnt cooperate and align himself with you.
That's just complete bullshit. No one asked him to do everything like us, you're going to a massive extreme. We're getting mad because he doesn't even understand the common courtesy of acknowledging other people's existence since always (still not talking about an isolated incident here).
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by your own admission, its because it "irritates" you that he doesnt want to have a discussion with you or listen to you.
You're going in the completely wrong direction. First, people are talking to him like a normal person, then his lack of response is what annoys people. He doesn't ignore people because him talking annoys, them, people get annoyed BECAUSE he won't react when they're trying to talk to him.

And if you told him to ignore everyone, then that was some fucking terrible advice when people are NOT antagonizing him. How do social connections even work when you do that ?

And again, the behavior doesnt justify yours, regardless of whether or not he does it a lot.

And again, he is not doing anything wrong by not acknowledging you, especially since staff told him it was okay as people treat him maliciously

He is indeed being antagonized. People continually go 0 to 100 over his harmless posts (like you are doing) as if he is trying to murder someone. Its disproportionate.

Ryūku Tsukuyomi said, November 30, 2014, 02:49:39 am

Umezono said, November 30, 2014, 02:38:49 am
we dont moderate antisocial behavior and we dont tolerate bullying. him "acting like the answers dont exist" is not wrong.

i will not repeat myself on this.

him asking if anyone watched a show, getting responses that it sucked, and then saying "well i saw some comments ,im gonna watch it, thanks anyway" does NOT justify your behavior. your behavior is or at least can be seen as elitist; you are grouping up with other people and attacking someone because he doesnt cooperate and align himself with you. you cant frame this in any other way. by your own admission, its because it "irritates" you that he doesnt want to have a discussion with you or listen to you.

Don't put everyone in the same bag, what I was trying to make him understand is why his behavior is a problem. I was not bullying him I was just trying to make him understand why he should think twice before posting and thats what I get:

Omega said, November 29, 2014, 11:58:23 pm
I said I ignore 3 of them. Go away and sprite your Recoome.

I won't post here anymore.

You called him a shithead for ignoring people and you are wondering why he was hostile?

Umezono

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3173 November 30, 2014, 02:58:36 am

i will meditate and then write a really epic post
jai ho

@S.D.: I apologize, I wasnt addressing you, its just a lot of posts are coming in and my responses are getting mixed up

DKDC

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3174 November 30, 2014, 03:01:04 am

Omega said, November 28, 2014, 07:20:51 pm

Dog Days 3rd Season Commercial Features Kuberu, Rebecca.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-28/dog-days-3rd-season-commercial-features-kuberu-rebecca/.81557

Did anyone watch the first 2 seasons? I want to follow this once I finish some of the current shows I'm watching.

Speedpreacher said, November 28, 2014, 07:24:51 pm

Oh sweet Jesus, not another season of Dog Days...

Ryūku Tsukuyomi said, November 28, 2014, 08:33:29 pm

It keeps grossing lots of money so they aren't gonna let it go anytime soon.

Bastard Mami said, November 28, 2014, 08:53:33 pm

the staff is talented, tho they are doing that. and then araki has only directed like 5 series I guess that explains this, he'd rather only direct 5 series than work on stuff like dog days.

Omega said, November 29, 2014, 06:20:57 pm

I am reading Great comments about the series. That's why I asked about it. I'll definitly check it out. Thanks guys. I appreciate it alot.

S.D. said, November 29, 2014, 10:57:27 pm

Omega said, November 29, 2014, 06:20:57 pm
I am reading Great comments about the series. That's why I asked about it. I'll definitly check it out. Thanks guys. I appreciate it alot.
So you just keep posting random news about shows you don't know about? Uhh, I thought you were going to stop this.

Speedpreacher said, November 29, 2014, 11:04:46 pm

Omega said, November 29, 2014, 06:20:57 pm
I am reading Great comments about the series.

I love that you took those comments as a ringing endorsement.

DKDC said, November 29, 2014, 11:22:22 pm

Especially considering that only 3 people answered him and they all basically told him it was worthless. And yet he says "great comments, I'll definitely check it out". Clearly he didn't even read those comments.

Umezono said, November 29, 2014, 11:22:58 pm

he didnt say it was these comments hes reffering to, and theres nothing wrong with his post, kindly get off his back.

edit: woops my phone quoted for me. didnt mean to quote one person, this is for all of you.

DKDC said, November 29, 2014, 11:28:08 pm

Umezono said, November 29, 2014, 11:22:58 pm
he didnt say it was these comments hes reffering to
In other words, he asks questions and then completely ignores all the responses, acting like they didn't even exist. This is all he ever does, that's what's wrong with his posts : he's a bot, posting links, raising false questions, and ignoring all discussions.
(although he tries a bit harder than someone like Segatron, I'll give him that)

Speedpreacher said, November 29, 2014, 11:29:32 pm

Oh I'm quite serious, I absolutely love it. I hope he never changes.

Omega said, November 29, 2014, 11:38:45 pm

S.D. said, November 29, 2014, 10:57:27 pm
So you just keep posting random news about shows you don't know about? Uhh, I thought you were going to stop this.

Read my previous post. I said I was researching it and that's why I shared it to know more about it. You are not the one to tell me how to post. The things you share arent always interesting too. Do you see me bothering you? Go away man. You have no life as you are always complaining about people.

Umezono said, November 29, 2014, 11:22:58 pm
he didnt say it was these comments hes reffering to, and theres nothing wrong with his post, kindly get off his back.

edit: woops my phone quoted for me. didnt mean to quote one person, this is for all of you.

yes indeed. I did read some articles about the series and asked you guys about it after. I did some research about it but guess what. People write their own stories about posters here. Just let them. I ignore and will keep ignoring such people (3 of them).

DKDC said, November 29, 2014, 11:28:08 pm
In other words, he asks questions and then completely ignores all the responses, acting like they didn't even exist. This is all he ever does, that's what's wrong with his posts : he's a bot, posting links, raising false questions, and ignoring all discussions.
(although he tries a bit harder than someone like Segatron, I'll give him that)

where do you see me ignoring posts buddy? how do you know i ask false questions. Don't talk about me anymore. I ignore "some" of you guys as you guys keep bothering me and a few more people. You guys make fun of people telling them what to do all the way. Stop acting like a king. You guys are telling me about useless posts but you guys are actually the ones with bothering and attacking people. Who is the bot now?

Umezono said, November 29, 2014, 11:42:10 pm

i dont care what any of you think of his.posting quality, thats your opinion and not fact. theres no rule against any of what he does and his posts are completely harmless. the only issue is you all derailing to attack them. please stop.

for the record, posting about stuff he doesnt know breaks.no rules
rules, ignoring responses breaks no rules, and the raising false questions shit is not an excuse to start derailing and attacking him.

omega please do.not respond. this conversation is over.

You, Umezono, are absolutely the one who jumped the gun. No one attacked him, everyone barely made fun of him. He's the one who got mad, and you joined and defended him when he was the one who was lashing out for absolutely no reason (again, no one attacked him). And you're talking about bullying ? Where exactly was that ? Was it after Omega got pissed at everyone ? Because it certainly isn't in what I quoted. And I quoted everything.

You are in the wrong, Umezono. Don't try too hard to jump in with your staff badge.

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Last Edit: November 30, 2014, 03:04:06 am by DKDC

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3175 November 30, 2014, 03:03:44 am

stuck inside my imagination

byakko, calm your tits. none is in the wrong here. Omega is just ignorant of you people.

Umezono

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3176 November 30, 2014, 03:04:50 am

i will meditate and then write a really epic post
jai ho

thanks for quoting the whole thread, but i can read. i told you intially to get off his back as the post was harmless and you were all derailing once again to discuss him rather than the thread's focus. then you thought you were so smart as to try and justify why its okay to act like a humungous douchebag, and thats why i started defending the content of his posts.

dont try and backseat moderate too hard byakko, we already have 8 mods and 2 admins. i know its hard to get told what to do but it happens. dont tell me how to do my job just because i told you to stop derailing a thread. and yes, ill happily mod you again if you do it again in that thread, so go ahead and try me if you want.

Xan

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3177 November 30, 2014, 03:08:00 am

Toonar12X said, November 30, 2014, 03:03:44 am

byakko, calm your tits. none is in the wrong here. Omega is just ignorant of you people.

Lol. I'm pretty sure we're all aware of that.

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

DKDC

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3178 November 30, 2014, 03:08:45 am

Umezono said, November 30, 2014, 03:04:50 am

thanks for quoting the whole thread, but i can read. i told you intially to get off his back as the post was harmless and you were all derailing once again to discuss him rather than the thread's focus.

We were talking to YOU. Because YOU jumped in. This still isn't anyone bullying him. But because you jumped in, everyone had to go back and explain what they felt was wrong. So obviously there's going to be a lot of tension all of a sudden !

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dont try and backseat moderate too hard

Again, massive difference between a bunch of people getting irritated at the same thing and backseat moderation. And disagreeing with your moderation is not backseat moderation either, unless you just go and say that no one is allowed to disagree with the staff ever. Which is just plain terrible.

the staff thread said:

Also, isnt he basically srepping aside when he doesnt respond anyway?

You're still flipping around the cause and the effect of the problem.

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Last Edit: November 30, 2014, 03:13:32 am by DKDC

Umezono

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3179 November 30, 2014, 03:13:21 am

i will meditate and then write a really epic post
jai ho

Yes, I never disputed that. However, I did reiterate several times this was not the place to discuss Omega and it will never be. Which you continually ignored me to continue making your point. And if you posted further quotes, I told Omega not to post either. Not like I was allowing him a soapbox. I told everyone to stop posting and everyone said their piece. I stopped discussion form there to avoid further derailment as is my job and my intention.

If you had actually respected my wishes as moderator, you would not have continued after I first asked everyone to stop. Omega stopped once I warned him and so did SD. You're the only person who feels I was totally in the wrong for stopping a derail.

My intention is not to censor your ill will towards Omega. i just want it the fuck out of irrelevant threads where a guy is just posting relevant links.

I disagree wholeheartedly with all of the bullying that has been going on with him since the beginning, and I felt it was time to draw the line as its both irrelevant and unwarranted. I nipped the problem in the bud like I am supposed to.

Last Edit: November 30, 2014, 03:16:37 am by Umezono

Niitris

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3180 November 30, 2014, 03:16:21 am

Umezono said, November 30, 2014, 02:54:24 am

considering the fact that nobody owns him or his opinions, and he didnt even specifically ask for opinions, the reaction was indeed disproportionate.

Regardless if it was or wasn't, he quite obviously did something that frustrated people. They believed that he actively disregarded their attempts to speak with him, which most people would believe to be rude. Even if he was instructed to ignore certain members, it's bad social etiquette (much less forum etiquette). Can you really blame anyone for voicing their displeasure?

Maybe the reaction he got was needlessly aggressive (which I don't think it was but opinions). My point is that Omega isn't completely innocent, even if he didn't do it on purpose.

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