The Mugen Fighters Guild - Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

DKDC

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3181 November 30, 2014, 03:18:02 am

Umezono said, November 30, 2014, 03:13:21 am

And if you posted further quotes, I told Omega not to post either. Not like I was allowing him a soapbox.

I quoted that one too, it's not like I'm cutting off facts to fit my argument or something.

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I told everyone to stop posting and everyone said their piece. I stopped discussion form there to avoid further derailment as is my job and my intention.

The derailment and the fact that people get pissed at Omega are very different things. Stopping the derailment is fine. Denying that several people have a rightful cause to get angry at someone is something else. The point is that Omega disrupts threads and behaves in an obfuscating way, that's why people get mad at him (or even just make fun of him for only 3 posts and then get told to stop bullying and not be elitist !)

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My intention is not to censor your ill will towards Omega. i just want it the fuck out of irrelevant threads where a guy is just posting relevant links.

There were a whopping total of 3 posts making a JOKE about his posting until HE lashed out.

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3182 November 30, 2014, 03:18:40 am

All my machines are made for destruction.

I'm not entirely sure discussion about it would have continued past Byakko's post. I know I wasn't particularly interested in belaboring the point.

I suppose it's moot at this juncture anyway.

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3183 November 30, 2014, 03:22:06 am

i will meditate and then write a really epic post
jai ho

Im gonna keep repeating to you that due the fact he has been in the past attacked by several members, he ignored them, Not just because he was being himself. he was told not to, because he has been attacked in the past quite harshly for this behavior.

I dont respond to everyone in threads I post in, all the time. It doesnt give them license to attack me.

DKDC said, November 30, 2014, 03:18:02 am

Umezono said, November 30, 2014, 03:13:21 am
And if you posted further quotes, I told Omega not to post either. Not like I was allowing him a soapbox.
I quoted that one too, it's not like I'm cutting off facts to fit my argument or something.
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I told everyone to stop posting and everyone said their piece. I stopped discussion form there to avoid further derailment as is my job and my intention.
The derailment and the fact that people get pissed at Omega are very different things. Stopping the derailment is fine. Denying that several people have a rightful cause to get angry at someone is something else. The point is that Omega disrupts threads and behaves in an obfuscating way, that's why people get mad at him (or even just make fun of him for only 3 posts and then get told to stop bullying and not be elitist !)

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My intention is not to censor your ill will towards Omega. i just want it the fuck out of irrelevant threads where a guy is just posting relevant links.
There were a whopping total of 3 posts making a JOKE about his posting until HE lashed out.

Byakko, now its you acting like this is an isolated incident. He has been attacked many, many , MANY times in the past. the point has become as stale as chuchoryu thread discussions. I was stopping a problem Ive already seen derail this thread from happening again. Also joke or anger, which is it? You keep changing your intentions.

And no, I do not believe you have a rightful cause to attack him and derail over his conduct in posting links, but as weve had to already establish, its a different issue. Still, your anger towards his behavior does not belong in the thread, joke or not and allowed or not. Its a derail. Its not warranted and not necessary. We can guess how many posts it wouldve continued for, but thats irrelevant. I stop it as soon as it starts. Its probably only 3 posts cause I stopped it and thats my honest opinion on the matter.

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3184 November 30, 2014, 03:23:44 am

This is not an offensive reply. I will just reply once to make my statement. I am not starting wars of fights with this.

I have seen many comments about me and many replies about the way I act and write. I can understand alot of you but when I say "my english lacks", those guys answered with "thats an excuse" in return. I was told months ago to ignore some of those people after I reported some of their replies against me.

People started to copy and paste their links like me and they wrote like me to piss me off and make fun of me. I didn't even gave any reaction and didn't even start arguments and all. People indeed gave me some replies about my posts. I sure admire them. I respect that. When I look at it and see posts about other stuff, it would be like returning to the previous subject of mine and really, people even complained about that back than. I got the "stay on topic" lines from them. Not being able to change colors isn't bad. As the subject continiue's with something I don't know about, I have to leave my own subject. Just for them to stop blaming me.

Also, I disagree with the antisocial part. If you say that duo my lack of sense or lack of enlish than fine. but calling me something wich i'm not is like insulting my life without knowing who I am.

I read lines before like, "you dont even watch shit, you dont know this, you are that, you are an idiot"
when I close my pc, the whole internet doesn't excist for me. I am a die hard bussy person as a arranger and I work my ass off. I also want to say that I finish my mood to reply back sometimes. The reason is that I get directly kicked into the corner without even letting others to reply for my post.

i'll say this once more. The 3 comments I got are not good comments about shows but they are good comments for me. I don't always watch stuff wich everyone likes. and besides my reply was not about those 3 comments. It was general. Because in my previous post I already mentioned that I was checking out more about the anime as it seemed interesting to me. and I asked what guys over here would think. So generally, when i gather all comments inside and outside mugenguild, i realized that there are "more" positive comments about the show.

My sharing and writings are limited yes. I am only here to contribute stuff actually. Nothing else.
I am not the kind of person to start fights. But i was saddened to see direct attacks and i am like "enough is enough" and I was over my limit. Don't get upset. You guys can't just jump in and says "he replies, he is mad" because when i don't reply back you than start saying "he ignores everyone"

I have a bunch of stuff I did and still am watching. I am not here for any of you guys who pick up fights.

I'll say it again. If this makes all of you happy. I'll tell you and all moderators here that I will be more carefull with what I share and say.
but this is not for those who just attack me and some other people.

I apologize only for my own mistakes but, not for something else. Also, this reply isn't send for fights or arguments. Just my point and statement. I repeat: I was told to ignore some of you guys. Not everyone! If I ignored an information or reply, the case is that some of those I already ignore reffers to me in a way I don't like. Like I said. I already sent informed moderators before and reported replies back in the days.

That's that. I won't even look back. I take my own responsibility's and mistakes only. But I don't accept agressive behavior. So i'll keep ignoring those as it was told Me. Thanks for reading. Once again, I won't reply about this subject anymore.

DKDC

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3185 November 30, 2014, 03:25:47 am

Umezono said, November 30, 2014, 03:22:06 am

Also joke or anger, which is it? You keep changing your intentions.

People get irritated about his behavior => people make fun of it. This is not contradictory and I'm not changing anything.

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i do not believe you have a rightful cause to attack him

People have a rightful cause to get irritated at his posting style. No one attacked him. You don't see the difference ? You're treating this case as if everyone was yelling at him (and you're doing that because you figured that people were getting annoyed at it). You're talking about bullying and being elitist by crushing people who post differently. But this isn't what happened.

Omega :
after you said your "good comments" post, people made fun of you, but there's no reason you couldn't simply explain "I was talking about other comments I read in other places".
Ignoring replies is bad. I'm not talking about the first three answers to your question. I mean the 3 posts after you said "good comments".

You are the one who knows what you mean. When you see that someone misunderstands you and gets angry at you, it's a terrible thing to let it go without explaining anything. Everyone understands that you may have problems in English. Not everyone on this forum talks a perfect English, and everyone can understand that. If you had simply cleared out the first misunderstanding, it would have been fine, people would have understood.

If you can do that more often, people will start understanding you better, and will stop making fun of you or getting mad at you. I promise. but you have to make an effort.
And ignoring people who are not antagonizing you is a bad thing to do. If someone makes fun of you, you are the only one who can give an explanation. you have to do something. Please help us stop being dicks to you.

If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.

Last Edit: November 30, 2014, 03:34:05 am by DKDC

Umezono

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3186 November 30, 2014, 03:29:34 am

i will meditate and then write a really epic post
jai ho

i stopped it from happening. this is hindsight bias perhaps, but i am indeed referring to a trend. again you have a rightful cause to be irritated, but you do not have a rightful cause to attack him (as in derail the thread to start making fun of him). people werent yelling at him (its the net), but they were antagonizing him yet again. maybe not as ugly as past incidents but it was happening all the same.

the bullying is what happens. this is a trend. this almost always happens when he posts. i was attempting to stop yet another incident from brewing forth.

but i have little else to say on the matter, i feel omega covered the bases on what he does well, and i stopped the derailment as was my intention

Ryūku Tsukuyomi

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3187 November 30, 2014, 03:34:25 am

Omega said, November 30, 2014, 03:23:44 am

i'll say this once more. The 3 comments I got are not good comments about shows but they are good comments for me. I don't always watch stuff wich everyone likes. and besides my reply was not about those 3 comments. It was general. Because in my previous post I already mentioned that I was checking out more about the anime as it seemed interesting to me. and I asked what guys over here would think. So generally, when i gather all comments inside and outside mugenguild, i realized that there are "more" positive comments about the show.

Then why didn't you mention that in your post? thats why I'm telling you to think twice before posting dude. You might not try to be a bad person but you don't realize we are on a forum and thus can't see your face so we don't know what you really mean simply because we have no indication about how you feel.

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Umezono

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3188 November 30, 2014, 03:36:30 am

i will meditate and then write a really epic post
jai ho

He did mention it. He said he saw good comments about the show. If the only comments in MFG are bad, that should imply he saw them elsewhere

DKDC

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3189 November 30, 2014, 03:39:42 am

Umezono said, November 30, 2014, 03:36:30 am

He did mention it. He said he saw good comments about the show. If the only comments in MFG are bad, that should imply he saw them elsewhere

We were talking about trends a second ago. The trend is that he misunderstands what people tell him, doesn't listen, and spam links without caring for any discussion. Since this is a trend, should we have assumed that he meant something different just this time ? Or should we have believed he was just about to do the same as he always does, and assumed the worst ?
The only answer to this is that he's the only one who knows what he meant. He's the only one who can explain and make things clear. Even if he doesn't speak or understand English too well, if he at least tries, it can get across. We're not savages, if he wants to communicate, there will be people to listen to him.

If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3190 November 30, 2014, 03:40:32 am

Umezono said, November 30, 2014, 03:36:30 am

He did mention it. He said he saw good comments about the show. If the only comments in MFG are bad, that should imply he saw them elsewhere

He probably should have mention seeing other comments from elsewhere. The way he usually post made us think he was just ignoring us once again.

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3191 November 30, 2014, 03:44:02 am

i will meditate and then write a really epic post
jai ho

But, that comment really couldnt have been misconstrued imo. It was straight forward and the implications were clear to anyone with basic reading comprehension. You know as well as I do I am aware of the trends and his tendency to miscommunicate/misinterpret however even considering that, my first reaction to that post was to construe it as he saw those comments elsewhere. Its just using my reading comprehension. There is an offensive implication that you would think him stupid enough to construe really bad posts as glowing criticism, this is your misinterpretation not his.

BTW, its not spam to share links a lot, it happens in a lot of other threads.

Ryūku Tsukuyomi said, November 30, 2014, 03:40:32 am

Umezono said, November 30, 2014, 03:36:30 am
He did mention it. He said he saw good comments about the show. If the only comments in MFG are bad, that should imply he saw them elsewhere

He probably should have mention seeing other comments from elsewhere. The way he usually post made us think he was just ignoring us once again.

Ehhh, I really think that post wasnt that hard to understand, not everything has to be spelled out.

Umezono

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3192 November 30, 2014, 03:48:00 am

i will meditate and then write a really epic post
jai ho

Well seeing as this has died down and been resolved I'll back off for the night, Byakko if you want to continue feel free to PM me, I always respond to PMs.

EDIT: I will respond to your below post via PM, didnt catch it in time.

DKDC

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3193 November 30, 2014, 03:48:00 am

Umezono said, November 30, 2014, 03:44:02 am

But, that comment really couldnt have been misconstrued imo. It was straight forward and the implications were clear to anyone with basic reading comprehension. You know as well as I do I am aware of the trends and his tendency to miscommunicate/misinterpret however even considering that, my first reaction to that post was to construe it as he saw those comments elsewhere. Its just using my reading comprehension. There is an offensive implication that you would think him stupid enough to construe really bad posts as glowing criticism, this is your misinterpretation not his.

Again, that's what he does all the time. This post by itself is understandable, but, even though you are apparently smart enough to see that this one time was different from all the previous times, the more logical assumption is that he was doing the same as usual. I mean, didn't you do the same when assuming we were all about to bash him ? Even when there was nothing more than 3 posts making a joke ? Because when I go back and read the three posts that made fun of his posting style, I see three harmless jokes that simply stopped there and weren't going to go any further. Which is it ?

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BTW, its not spam to share links a lot, it happens in a lot of other threads.

Other people post other things as well, and at least a few times every now and then participate in the discussion that ensues. Bots post links and do nothing else.

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3194 November 30, 2014, 04:24:25 am

We always go back to Omega's bad English. It just occurred to me: we haven't told him he should try posting in his native language along with his English. Though it wouldn't help him understand some English replies better it may help communication a bit with others that understand the language.

Bastard Mami

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3195 December 01, 2014, 05:36:42 am

god , let it not be spanish.

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#3196 December 01, 2014, 06:14:53 am

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#3197 December 01, 2014, 07:12:37 am

Just... Ask the question

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#3198 December 01, 2014, 03:32:51 pm

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3199 December 04, 2014, 08:38:54 am

If I may be so bold to ask for my curse status to be removed.
Really I'd just like to be able to change my display name.

Alex Sinigaglia

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions

#3200 December 04, 2014, 11:57:04 am

aka G.o.D.

Leave mikecrazy's ban for two years, he only spams, doesn't listen to moderators and administrators and he also tried to communicate with the reports while he was banned. He continued to use the same excuse that he's new, but he's been here for an year!

In two years hopefully he'll learn how to write and read (didn't he go to school?) and he'll get some common sense.

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