Snakebyte said, March 10, 2013, 10:09:25 pmYeah, we've already established that claiming things that meet the dictionary definition but not your unsupported definition are not in fact those things is a bullshit way to argue.I totally agree.http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stereotype said:1: a plate cast from a printing surface2: something conforming to a fixed or general pattern; especially : a standardized mental picture that is held in common by members of a group and that represents an oversimplified opinion, prejudiced attitude, or uncritical judgment
Right. Because I've been talking about every single kind of stereotype. Not just the harmful ones. The ones that fall under the "especially" part.
Yup, you have. That's why you said 'Stereotypes are by definition harmful''And gender stereotypes are harmful. So are racist stereotypes''stereotypes are by definition harmful because they take away someone's very personhood,'If you were not, you would have said'Harmful stereotypes exist''Harmful gender stereotypes exist. So do racist stereotypes'.'Some stereotypes are harmful because they take away someone's very personhood.'Which is what I have been saying.
I'll just quote myself because I already talked about thisOverman King Jmorphman said, March 10, 2013, 06:15:47 amThis whole topic is about harmful stereotypes; it's about gender stereotypes in games! What else would I possibly have been referring to?And we're right back into arguing into circles. Whee. This is pretty pointless.
snakebyte and jmorphman both get a c minus in communication skills because i managed to say all of that in a post instead of a bunch of them.
Except I didn't. Because your statements are false and there is no getting around that.You didn't say 'Harmful stereotypes are harmful', that is a pointless tautology. You said 'Stereotypes are by definition harmful.' They are not. Stop trying to pretend you didn't fuck up.EDIT: typo.
I'm more concerned overall of how she screwed people on the money. The stack of games she has in the photo on the first page is only worth about ~$12,000 + tax. I can't imagine that she didn't use emulators for the old school games(ie. free), and the quality of the video doesn't seem any better than her older works. I'd get her to post her costs publicly.Honestly, this whole thing is troll bait and incredibly opinionated, so I don't care about the project's "meaning".
QuoteAll the digital games downloaded via Steam, PSN and XBLM are sadly not nearly as photogenic, but rest assured we are looking at classic titles from throughout the history of gaming.EDIT: i really doubt she spent the rest of the money on digital games.QuoteAs a result of the unexpected extra Kickstarter funding I can now commit full-time to Feminist Frequency and to this video series which is truly a dream come true for me! I can now also hire my producer full-time for this project. Plus we are in the process of bringing another writer/researcher on board part-time. So far I’ve chosen to keep my small crew out of the limelight to try and shield them from any potential harassment. When I feel it is safe and appropriate to introduce them I will.i'd rather wait until her video series is complete before complaining that she's wasting other people's money.
Snakebyte said, March 10, 2013, 11:06:55 pmYou didn't way 'Harmful stereotypes are harmful', that is a pointless tautology.Of course not. I said gender stereotypes were harmful. I omitted the word "gender" because I didn't need to include it, because this topic is about gender stereotypes. The end. There's nothing under the curtain.
Overman King Jmorphman said, March 10, 2013, 05:23:11 amSnakebyte said, March 10, 2013, 05:13:44 amIs the stereotype that females are typically the stay-at-home parent harmful?No, because that ain't a stereotype.'Kay.
... I feel like I'm going crazy. Did you stop reading after the word "no". The part where I said IT ISN'T A STEREOTYPE?!?!
Snakebyte said, March 10, 2013, 10:09:25 pmYeah, we've already established that claiming things that meet the dictionary definition but not your unsupported definition are not in fact those things is a bullshit way to argue.
Ah, OK.Overman King Jmorphman said, March 10, 2013, 10:12:49 pmSnakebyte said, March 10, 2013, 10:09:25 pmYeah, we've already established that claiming things that meet the dictionary definition but not your unsupported definition are not in fact those things is a bullshit way to argue.I totally agree.http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stereotype said:1: a plate cast from a printing surface2: something conforming to a fixed or general pattern; especially : a standardized mental picture that is held in common by members of a group and that represents an oversimplified opinion, prejudiced attitude, or uncritical judgment I've said everything that needs to be said, I've explained my position countless times. If you want to continue arguing in circles, be my guest. But I'm afraid you'll have to do it alone.
Snakebyte said, March 10, 2013, 10:26:15 pmThanks for proving my point, Jmorph. See where it says 'especially'? That means 'not always'.I can also post half a dozen other dictionary definitions that don't include anything about that at all.Is here where you claim that you were only talking about the harmful stereotypes again? And then change your mind and say you're only talking about the gender ones? I'm only arguing in circles because I've already repeatedly shown how you're wrong, but you refuse to accept it, so round and round we go.
