Niitris said, September 29, 2014, 05:53:12 pmTo be honest, I never got the full idea of what was happening until I read this:http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/25/gamergate-an-issue-with-2-sides/Doesn't get into what happened with Zoe Quinn but Google searches can fill in that blank.Mabye it will help Toonar as well but you know what they say about leading a horse to water. i'll see about this later always focusing on truth
Titiln said, October 22, 2014, 06:10:37 pmlooking forward to the expert analysis on the Fucking Fuck Toy, bayonettaI wonder how many parts she will stretch this out...
these articles are real good reads on why sarkeesian is not very good at what she does. it's a very nice read not full of SARKEESIAN FUCKING DESTROYED!! SARKEESIAN OWNED!!! GIVE MONEY TO MY PATREON like that other dude's videoshttp://gamesided.com/2014/09/08/sarkeesian-truth-part-1-straw-feminist-trojan-horse-censorship/
Even if she is created for straight males to enjoy the game even more? What's the problem? Is she going to create a problem by cherry picking scenes, like she usually does? I can wait to find out.
article said:An entire school of "sex positive" feminism has arisen in reaction against this idea, claiming that women can enjoy sex in whatever they wish and still be empowered, provided they consent, and that displaying the female form, even when done for male pleasure, need not be objectifying and degrading and can, in fact, be empowering if norms that treat "slutiness" (inventing words ftw) as automatically bad are broken down.Wow, that sounds a little like a certain game she's mentioning. Oh the irony.
Niitris said, October 22, 2014, 10:28:36 pmarticle said:An entire school of "sex positive" feminism has arisen in reaction against this idea, claiming that women can enjoy sex in whatever they wish and still be empowered, provided they consent, and that displaying the female form, even when done for male pleasure, need not be objectifying and degrading and can, in fact, be empowering if norms that treat "slutiness" (inventing words ftw) as automatically bad are broken down.Wow, that sounds a little like a certain game she's mentioning. Oh the irony.Where's the link to that article? This is interesting...
sarkeesian said:dumb shitI'm more than certain that there's tons of evidence to back up such a claim.
Nobody's shooting up schools to be manly. Actually, In this day and age, women are more prone to trying to be macho and manly than men because of all this empowerment nonsense. When you lie to an entire generation and tell them that girls and boys are equal, you get a bunch of fucked up people who can't understand basic realities. I'm willing to bet that that fucks people's heads up.
sarkeesian said:dumb shitThese tweets pushes so many anger buttons it is not even funny.Misandrist, misinforming the real reasons why people commit mass shootings (note: most of the time, it's mental issues), AND standing on the dead bodies of mass shooting victims? Is there a low she won't go to?
Titiln said, October 25, 2014, 02:34:30 amSpoiler, click to toggle visibiltywhy would anyone listen to this disgusting moronBecause she's a woman, and every man must obey what a woman says without question or they are misogynists who don't care about women(a literal quote she stated)Rajaa said, October 25, 2014, 12:30:48 pmNobody's shooting up schools to be manly. Actually, In this day and age, women are more prone to trying to be macho and manly than men because of all this empowerment nonsense. When you lie to an entire generation and tell them that girls and boys are equal, you get a bunch of fucked up people who can't understand basic realities. I'm willing to bet that that fucks people's heads up.Don't toss around facts, they don't want to hear that. They want to believe what they are doing isn't hurting the Feminist label anymore than the misogynists out to destroy it!
Hatred confirmed for manliest game in existence, thanks Anita. On to people who actually have some idea what they're talking about. Lengthy interview with female gamers and devs.http://www.negativeworld.org/feature/11720/women-speak-about-the-bayonetta-franchise-part-1-of-2#.VE0f3vnF_fGhttp://www.negativeworld.org/feature/11723/female-gamers-speak-about-the-bayonetta-franchise-part-2-of-2#.VE0f3vnF_fFQuoteAlicia Andrew: As a developer, sexualization of characters is a topic that's come up in some great discussions. I use Bayonetta as an example of "sexy" done right. A lot of the discussion about female representation seems to get stuck at whether its appropriate for a character to be "sexy". Some people see the discussion around the dislike for the "chain-mail bikini" as a form of censorship or a push towards characters they see as potentially boring or downright prudish. I see the discussion as more nuanced than just an issue of cleavage. In my opinion, it's an issue of ownership.Emily Gitelman: I think the female characters in Bayonetta are presented incredibly poorly, and certainly over sexualized. They're a male fantasy, completely. I'm going to focus on Bayonetta herself. To start with her physical appearance, Bayonetta is built like a super model, has a sexy English accent, and walks around in a skin-tight catsuit that disappears and basically gives her censor bars when she casts spells. It's practically a reward for the player: use a powerful attack; see a naked woman. As soon as Bayonetta displays power, she is stripped of her clothing and her dignity. When her health runs too low, her catsuit also disappears. The symbolism (lip marks, flowers, butterflies) used in her attacks is very stereotypically feminine in a way that box female sexuality into a narrow category. These are calculated ways of making her seem like a Strong Female Character, but they actually undercut her agency and power as the lead character of a franchise.Vivian "SJ" James: I think there are issues for sure, in that it contributes to a status quo of women being sexualized in games. However, it's so rare to have an aggressively sexual (as opposed to passively sexual, aka a sexual object) protagonist woman who has more to her character than just fanservice. I think she captures a lot of elements of the kind of woman I'd really like to be. As much as she is a part of a status quo of sexualized women characters, I think she's substantially different from how those characters are often handled and I think that's important.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11187392/Washington-state-high-school-shooting.htmlApparently it was over a girl, so it makes sense she'd pursue the male entitlement angle.Titiln said, October 25, 2014, 02:34:30 am<anita tweets>why would anyone listen to this disgusting moronThat seems to be the pattern with her: indeterminate number of divisive, spiteful tweets, followed by one more conservative, almost reasonable one. I said the same thing about her E3 coverage; if she moderated her message more she wouldn't get nearly as much attention hate as she does.
