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Started by Iced, August 14, 2014, 12:53:22 pm
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#101  August 18, 2014, 11:26:37 am
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I can not really add anything to the conversation and did not look up the whole thread here, just wanted to mention that the case got some big headlines here in Germany in printed newspapers and the biggest news websites. There was also a quite interesting article here about the differences between racism 60 and 30 years ago and today, the article came to the sad conclusion that the skin tone is still responsible for a lot shit happening, there in the USA and elsewhere too.
In other news, the heaven is still grey, but it sucks that many humans still think like ages ago and other humans have to suffer the negative results of this kind of thinking.

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#102  August 18, 2014, 11:32:40 am
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It may have died down each time, but it also gets BIGGER each time. Look at this one in comparison to trayvon. You had people rioting in the streets over this (not the best thing to do but it happened) and the police escalated in an unjustifiable manner. This time round, something at a higher level will happen than last time. The whole police dept being stood down is a start, that certainly wouldn't have happened even 10 years ago.

The younger generation is going to change things. But the older generation still has their hands on the reins (look at the ages of all your people in senate, yeesh) and young people don't get much of a look in. Heck, america doesn't even seem to like voting for young guys to be president, Obama was some kind of a fluke.


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#103  August 18, 2014, 04:16:41 pm
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#104  August 18, 2014, 04:48:14 pm
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Confrontation flared up after an autopsy found that Michael Brown, an unarmed teenager who was fatally shot by an officer on 9 August, had suffered at six bullet wounds including one in the top of his head.

Eye-witnesses report seeing police, with no visible ID badges, hurling tear gas and rubber bullets at protesters and threatening members of the press in another night of demonstrations.
... Okay, two things.

Why are they getting pissed again at the autopsy report ? We know he was shot, more than once, and we already had the police chief say the case would be resolved and everything and place accountability where due. It's a federal autopsy, and it was apparently made public, that's supposed to be a good thing. So why are the riots resuming over the result ?

How the fuck is it that the new police guys are threatening the press and shooting tear gas around again ? Didn't the previous guys get kicked out for doing the same ?

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Officers say they were responding to gunfire, looting, vandalism and the hurling of Molotov cocktails at them, with at least two people wounded.

"Based on the conditions, I had no alternative but to elevate the level of response," said Captain Ron Johnson, from the Missouri Highway Patrol.
Oh really, did the press do that too ?

What the fuck is going on over there, who pissed in the water the whole town is drinking from ?
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#105  August 18, 2014, 04:57:07 pm
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The "new cops" were mostly the old cops but under new management, i guess they thought they wouldnt do anything stupid under new management? Now the actual national guard is coming.

From reports it also seems that several people come from out of state to riot with guns , maybe they would have rioted anyway no matter what happened.

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#106  August 18, 2014, 04:59:46 pm
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The "new cops" were mostly the old cops but under new management
.... Oh that's just genius. After some governor or other put on an act of removing the police force that was being racist and power crazy, they actually didn't do anything. Nice waste of time and image.
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#107  August 19, 2014, 01:07:36 pm
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Did I miss something or did Ferguson turn into a fucking 3rd world dictatorship overnight?

And here I thought this was hyperbole, shows what I know.

Shit's still going down even after a week and some change, with no end in sight. Two men were shot, 31 arrested, tear gas used (again) and hit journalists in the scene. Also:

Car driver offered to give a ride home to remaining protesters. Police stopped the car, guns drawn

See, now there's a legit reason to say "you're losing faith in humanity." I only pray things get better soon.



I have a brother and family in Ferguson and they unfortunately got caught up between everything that been happening.

Are they alright? Don't need any more innocents being unnecessarily harassed.
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#108  August 19, 2014, 01:43:42 pm
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#109  August 19, 2014, 02:17:18 pm
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so...is the President actually gonna get on top of this for those guys or what? Or at least is anyone higher up the government food chain gonna try to put a stop to this?
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#110  August 19, 2014, 05:26:46 pm
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National Guard is one of the highest-incommand, them not being able to control the situation is worrying.

This will only stop if one of the two sides give in. It would require either protesting to not have any kind of looting/vandalizing/etc whatsoever (not realistic) or the officers not fuckin' overreacting to the few troublemakers that start shit (also not likely to happen).

Also, "journalists need to be more mindful?"
The irony.
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#111  August 19, 2014, 06:04:46 pm
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Jesus fucking christ what the hell are the police doing to be able to stop the National Guard from keeping things stable? Or anyone at this rate.

Not ot mention how badly this is gonna end up for white people (especially when Tumblr's on this) and police from elsewhere around the US.
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#112  August 19, 2014, 06:30:44 pm
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#113  August 19, 2014, 06:31:56 pm
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Imagine if all the cops were straight and cisgendered too lol
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#115  August 19, 2014, 06:38:12 pm
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#116  August 19, 2014, 07:29:10 pm
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^ pretty much yeah. 

clicky   Non peaceful protests and the National Guard, don't always end well.
I think so, but isn't Regis Philbin already married?
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#117  August 19, 2014, 07:47:14 pm
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And they say learning about history is pointless, heh.

This happened a day after the Kent State shootings:
Subsequently the students, enraged, went boiling down the western slope of Blanket Hill to confront the Guard near the ROTC building.  Several KSU faculty marshals, including Frank, tried to negotiate with Gen. Canterbury to prevent more violence, but Canterbury insisted that the students must disperse.  At that point, it looked more than ever as if another shooting would occur, because the students were out of their minds with grief and fury and Canterbury was locked into a very rigid pattern of thought.

Prof. Frank went to the students and, in an emotional plea, said:  "I don't care whether you've never listened to anyone before in your lives.  I am begging you right now.  .  If you don't disperse right now, they're going to move in, and it can only be a slaughter.  Would you please listen to me?  Jesus Christ, I don't want to be a part of this . . . !"

Hopefully this situation doesn't escalate to that level.
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#119  August 19, 2014, 11:16:54 pm
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#120  August 19, 2014, 11:50:10 pm
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And another shooting near by were the main incident just happened hours ago, this time another black dude got shot dead by a cop, things are probably gonna get heat up a bit more
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