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Started by Iced, August 14, 2014, 12:53:22 pm
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#121  August 20, 2014, 12:16:39 am
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#122  August 20, 2014, 12:17:54 am
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Yeah, bad call from me, sorry.
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#123  August 20, 2014, 12:18:53 am
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And another shooting near by were the main incident just happened hours ago, this time another black dude got shot dead by a cop, things are probably gonna get heat up a bit more
Goddammit.

Not ot mention how badly this is gonna end up for white people (especially when Tumblr's on this) and police from elsewhere around the US.
You've really got to the real victims of all this: white people! How is this travesty of justice going to affect white people who don't live in Ferguson? Why won't anyone consider the poor, disaffected white people who might read mean things on tumblr! Oh the humanity!

Imagine if all the cops were straight and cisgendered too lol
jesus fucking christ
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#124  August 20, 2014, 12:26:03 am
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uhhh, pretty fucking sure I apologized. :/
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#125  August 20, 2014, 12:27:54 am
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#126  August 20, 2014, 12:29:27 am
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#127  August 20, 2014, 12:31:00 am
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Oh. Well. Fack. But yeah sorry bout that too
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#128  August 20, 2014, 06:27:38 am
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addendun, i was mocking the shock over tumblr in the middle of something so serious.

I kinda figured. Regardless, it's not as if people everywhere aren't going apeshit (justifiably so of course).

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The man in the St. Louis shooting had taken energy drinks and a package of pastries from a nearby convenience store, Police Chief Sam Dotson told reporters. He said that the man was “acting erratically, walking back and forth, up and down the street.”

The chief said that the officers repeatedly ordered the 23-year-old man to drop the knife and drew their weapons after he refused. The chief said the man told the police: “Shoot me now. Kill me now.”

He said the two officers fired after the man moved toward one of them and came within 3 to 4 feet.

So instead of using any other possible method that would result in one less causality (because I'm pretty sure there's at least one), they instead opt to shooting someone to death... smart.

At this point, the original event that triggered all of this is not even the focal point of the problem anymore. That said, it seems the officer that killed the boy suffered an obrital fracture and was fearing for his life during the conflict.
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#129  August 20, 2014, 10:16:40 am
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You know that the blog you're linking to is a radical right-wing political blog, right
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#130  August 20, 2014, 10:35:25 am
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He was fearing for his life and that's what made him shoot a fleeing person? Because the officer's own statement said Brown was fleeing.
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#131  August 20, 2014, 10:45:30 am
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#132  August 20, 2014, 11:08:44 am
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Yeah, that's what I read; the officer's version of events had a struggle happen, but Brown was shot while fleeing.
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#133  August 20, 2014, 11:11:05 am
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Yeah, the detail that Brown was "charging" when he was shot is new, it seems to have been made up and added when the autopsy report brought up the head wound. (guess that's why they generally don't release these things publicly !)
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#134  August 20, 2014, 11:12:33 am
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those kind of head wounds however happen a lot when someone shot collapses. if he was shot in the face first he would collapse and at that moment the next bullet would go through the top of the head
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#135  August 20, 2014, 11:16:48 am
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There's one that went through his eye, his jaw, and into his collarbone, so that's two bullets that were shot after he was collapsing. Probably from the 4 he had in his right arm, which would be up in defense. If he was charging, he'd have both arms up, and wounds on both arms, no one charges with just one arm up - but you totally turn sideways to avoid shots fired at you and leave one arm behind and one in front.
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#136  August 20, 2014, 01:28:03 pm
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#137  August 20, 2014, 01:33:40 pm
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The fatal confrontation began on Aug. 9 shortly after the police received reports that two men had robbed a convenience store in Ferguson. Officer Wilson, who was not responding to the robbery, had stopped to speak with Mr. Brown and a friend, Dorian Johnson. The Ferguson police chief, Thomas Jackson, said that it was around the time that Officer Wilson started talking to the two that he realized they fit the description of the suspects in the convenience store robbery.
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But he said he did see a police officer get out of the patrol car and start walking briskly while firing on Mr. Brown as he fled.
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According to his account to the Ferguson police, Officer Wilson said that Mr. Brown had lowered his arms and moved toward him, law enforcement officials said. Fearing that the teenager was going to attack him, the officer decided to use deadly force. Some witnesses have backed up that account.
That's... that's just nonsense. He starts to run away, the cop fires, and THEN Brown turns back and attacks ? That's a retarded allegation.

Has no one said anything about the gun and the shot that was fired inside the car ? At first there were claims that Brown tried to grab the gun when the cop was inside the car, but wouldn't the gun be on the cop's right side and him sitting on the left side ? Who the hell would try to grab a gun in that position - unless the gun was already drawn and pointed out the window ?
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#138  August 20, 2014, 02:29:20 pm
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Jesus, This whole thing makes me ashamed of being white.

I mean, why do police departments never seem to do a psychological exam and background check of the people they hire. You know, to know if the one being hired isn't a racist nutcase that became an officer just with the thought, "Hey, now I can shoot a black guy and not get reprimanded for it!"

I say that because apparently almost every white cop in Ferguson is a dick who has the idea that they can pull these kind of stunt and not get in trouble for it.

So why can't the higher ups actually do something, did these cops blackmail the higher ups or does the government actually agree with their views and don't want to say anything that can incriminate themselves.

If this keeps up, we could have a situation like in the movie Maniac Cop, where people get so afraid of law enforcement that they will strike back even if a cop is an actual good guy.

If it's sounds like I'm jumping around and rambling, I apologize, I just have many thoughts on this.
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#139  August 20, 2014, 02:34:13 pm
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Maybe there's no one else in the whole region that's white, who wants to be a cop, and isn't crazy and racist.
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#140  August 20, 2014, 02:55:12 pm
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you couldnt make this shit up
in an effort to explain the situation about how this isnt a power abuse, a lapd cop reveals he is abusive

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Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don't want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don't argue with me, don't call me names, don't tell me that I can't stop you, don't say I'm a racist pig, don't threaten that you'll sue me and take away my badge. Don't scream at me that you pay my salary, and don't even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?

Arguing with a cop is not grounds to be shot, calling them names is not ground for being shot, telling them that they are acting illegaly isnt grounds to be shot, calling them racist isnt a reason to be shot, threatening to pursue legal means against the cop isnt grouns to be shot, screaming is not grounds to be shot, aggressively walking at a cop isnt grounds to be shot.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/19/im-a-cop-if-you-dont-want-to-get-hurt-dont-challenge-me/