While I am going to make this a somewhat racial comment, I truly mean to make it more for it's irony and as an observation. I find it funny (read: tragically ironic) that all this police brutality is going on in the country, predominantly against black men and especially in open areas, where the suspect is 'carrying a weapon and may be a danger to others' and is then shot, or manhandled, or killed because of probable social discrimination (read: handled differently because of race, not be JUST because of race), yet every time there is a school shooting, EVERY TIME used figuratively not factually, the suspect is USUALLY a white male. And they always manage to come into the schools with guns and no one is the wiser or has any inclination that the suspect 'would ever do something like this'. But it's always the rowdy black students that are always under the watchful eyes in the schools. Mind you, usually there is a police standoff with these school shooting suspects, and they usually end up taking their own lives, but I can't help but wonder if the same would happen in a situation where the suspect WAS actually a black student?I know this doesn't particularly pertain to the police brutality issue, but I feel it's more observation on the social discrimination that surrounds us.I expect SOME backlash for this comment, as I'm sure that some will take this comment out of context. If need be, just ask what my point is if it wasn't clear, and I shall try to clarify.
there's no point in making this shit about race. i have no reason whatsoever to believe the cases that caused the most outrage (garner, brown) had race as a factor. they were people disobeying police. that's what led to their deaths. you could be the palest motherfucker on earth, walk the middle of the street, disobey a cop and get in a fight with him and shit would get bad really fucking fast. same with garner. the store owners called the cops because garner was selling loose cigarrettes. this wasn't a case of a cop going up to them just because they were black and suspicious. when you make anything that happens to someone of color a racist issue you're basically crying wolf. it's the same "oh you're criticizing obama well you must be a racist" logic. maybe the reason was something else. the issues here are excessive use of force from police and the legal system possibly being too biased to defend police. these are things that can be realistically worked out in a relatively short period of time. racism is a different beast. you can't police thoughtcrime. making this about race right now is not helping. everybody should be united because excessive use of force from police has an effect on everybodyhttp://nypost.com/2014/12/20/2-nypd-cops-shot-execution-style-in-brooklyn/nah nevermind let's keep making this about race
sure, but i don't think there's a lot to say or debate here. i don't think the murderer represents everybody that believes police are mostly racist. i don't think the murderer saw some shit like this and decided "cool, theyre right, im going to kill some fucking cops". all the people that are making this about race and generalizing how cops behave are not helping, but to be honest extremists like this one had their mind made up a long time ago
Oh, you said what I would have.I would debate that even though he had his mind set on it a long time ago, he did saw something like that and thought "Yeah, I should do this." All I know about him is that he is from Baltimore, had a history of arrests involving firearms and alleged harassment, he shot his girlfriend prior to trekking to New York City, killed two cops execution style, and stood and looked at what he'd done prior to the chase and his eventual demise.I am led to believe that he had a history of anger issues, resorting in submitting to a culture, a system, of guns, violence, and cop-hating. He might tried to escape using this culture, and eventually decided to appease those as a means of attention, to belong somewhere. This is apparent by the social media posts he'd made prior to the trip to New York. I would claim that he stood there waiting for someone to notice what he'd done.His fight or flight response kicked in right when he heard the sirens. Instead of targeting the same group of people he had just killed, he ran, reality setting in that he is, lightly speaking, fucked. The theme of escapism continues, in this case, he physically attempts to escape.When and only when he couldn't escape, he killed himself. Finally escaping reality, which he's been probably trying to do a good chunk of his life, if not his whole life.---I would make this a race issue because not because the color of the killer or the victims, but because of the color of the people who condones this.
The Aboriginal One said, December 21, 2014, 11:01:56 pmI am led to believe that he had a history of anger issues, resorting in submitting to a culture, a system, of guns, violence, and cop-hating. He might tried to escape using this culture, and eventually decided to appease those as a means of attention, to belong somewhere. This is apparent by the social media posts he'd made prior to the trip to New York. I would claim that he stood there waiting for someone to notice what he'd done....I would make this a race issue because not because the color of the killer or the victims, but because of the color of the people who condones this.Completely agree. Great words, you speak the truth. You "get it". That's what I like about you.The system is continuing. I believe it's completely intentional, too. Not to be too conspiracy theorist but I believe race is being driven and marketed the way it is, and the way it has been, intentionally by a large group of people with the goal being their own personal benefit.
Its unfortunate, but I knew one of the cops who got killed here in BK. The Latino cop used to work for airborne express here in NYC years back. When I used to work in the mailroom for Bank of America. He used to come make his drop offs and chat with us for a bit. He was a cool dude. It didn't really dawn on me who he was till today when a old friend who worked with me hit me on FB out of the blue today about it......Days ago when the news hit I said to my lady "Yo why that cop look so damn familiar??".....I was wondering if it was BOA but i wasnt sure ...and I be damned I was right...Anyway im sure he was one of the good cops. But its just fucked up how things go. Im not too fond of cops because of my history with them as a teen but its a sad deal that guy got murdered for being a cop..smdh crazy small world
Just read about this, and damn this is sad...Caddie said, December 22, 2014, 06:23:50 amThe Aboriginal One said, December 21, 2014, 11:01:56 pmI am led to believe that he had a history of anger issues, resorting in submitting to a culture, a system, of guns, violence, and cop-hating. He might tried to escape using this culture, and eventually decided to appease those as a means of attention, to belong somewhere. This is apparent by the social media posts he'd made prior to the trip to New York. I would claim that he stood there waiting for someone to notice what he'd done....I would make this a race issue because not because the color of the killer or the victims, but because of the color of the people who condones this.Completely agree. Great words, you speak the truth. You "get it". That's what I like about you.The system is continuing. I believe it's completely intentional, too. Not to be too conspiracy theorist but I believe race is being driven and marketed the way it is, and the way it has been, intentionally by a large group of people with the goal being their own personal benefit.That actually makes sense if you look at how the issue in Ferguson is being made about race, when it should be about the police abusing the use of force. (Sorry if this sounds like a trainwreck, I haven't kept up in a while..)
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fatal-cop-shooting-teen-berkeley-missouri-sparks-clashes-n274181QuoteA white police officer shot a black teenager to death at a gas station in the city next door to Ferguson, Missouri, touching off clashes early Wednesday between demonstrators and law enforcement.The mayor said that video from the confrontation, in the city of Berkeley, appeared to show the teenager pointing a gun at the officer, and police said a handgun was recovered at the scene. Police said the officer feared for his life.He took pains to say that the shooting could not be compared to the police killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson or to the chokehold death of Eric Garner in New York. The mayor, who is black, pointed out that the Berkeley police department is majority-black.An angry crowd of about 200 gathered at near the scene of the shooting, and there were angry clashes with police. A small fire broke out at a QuikTrip across the street from the Mobil but quickly went out, said John Henry, reporter with NBC affiliate KDSK. "I can see about 50 cop cars," said Bradley Rayford, a photographer at the scene. "They're fighting and scuffling, the highway is blocked with cars, people are being arrested. Trash cans are on fire."The protesting, so much tension.
QuoteThe mayor said that video from the confrontation, in the city of Berkeley, appeared to show the teenager pointing a gun at the officer, and police said a handgun was recovered at the scene. This alone makes this situation completely different than what happened with Michael Brown and Eric Garner. The unfortunate thing about this was the location and timing, so I'm really not surprised that there's protesting about this, despite the protestors overlooking the glaringly obvious. I hate to say it but this time the cop was in the right.Now THIS, on the other hand...
Ricepigeon said, December 26, 2014, 09:08:40 pmI'm really not surprised that there's protesting about this, despite the protestors overlooking the glaringly obvious.From what I've seen, the protest happened very quickly after the event, long before the police released any information. The shooting was reported, the guy's friend claimed the cop was violent and shot his friend when he was running away while the police dept said the cop reacted to a gun threat, then the protest happened because of that "he said, she said", then it was reported that there was a security camera, then the mayor said the video showed the guy pull a gun, and just recently the video was made public as seen in Niitris' link (it does show the guy pulling what appears to be a gun).The protesters must have reacted out of habit because of the general situation, the current conjunction. But it was over after before night time.Incidentally, the friend definitely said what he said thinking it would trigger some more shit, not realizing there was a security camera. Hopefully he's in a lot of trouble now because of that.
I cant support that other kid who actually had a gun that time....I read about that some time ago when it first hit the news and I just SMH.....just stupid....Im all for protesting of justice but what happened to THAT kid was Justified and he asked for it^^ The Cop did his job and seriously had no other choice....I hope folks out there don't start getting all fart headed and falling off course consciously about what they are fighting for and forget there are actually other brothas out there with bad intentions really doing crime and nonsense that put themselves in situations they don't care about...
DKDC said, December 26, 2014, 11:08:29 pmIncidentally, the friend definitely said what he said thinking it would trigger some more shit, not realizing there was a security camera. Hopefully he's in a lot of trouble now because of that.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2886114/Furious-Twitter-backlash-against-prankster-pretended-best-friends-latest-police-shooting-victim-Antonio-Martin-watched-die-plugged-mixtape.htmlthe friend didnt even know him and fabricated the whole thing to try to plug his mixtapes.
Yep, anon jumped on his asshttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2886445/Hackers-publish-personal-details-sick-Twitter-prankster-pretended-best-friends-latest-police-shooting-black-teen.html
