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Started by CSGames, July 13, 2011, 06:37:10 am
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Re: Fighter Creator
#181  August 06, 2011, 07:09:58 am
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Is it possible to have a function for Scaling or deforming sprites based on target points?  Like bones in 3D, or bezier curves that can be used for sprite warping? 

Something like this  http://www.math.ucla.edu/~baker/java/hoefer/Bezier.htm

I was trying to make this in mugen yesterday with Scorpion's spear, but was having too much trouble locking one end point to the enemy.  Having the rope bend would need to be done in Photoshop also.

What would be awesome is if we could tile a sprite or texture along a curve, so it doesn't get too distorted during deformations.

Since you have the cloth effects, maybe the middle points could use some cloth properties to move around on their own...
You could use a cloths or you can just use multiple rigid bodies.

Here's another quick video on the Menu Editor: Fighter Creator Editor Progress 2
There is going to be a few more videos on the Menu Editor, then after that a going to start of menu scripting, you can modify menu items in your scripts too, allowing for many animation effects.
I wanted to make a video on designing a simple character select screen, but couldn't because I have to fix some things, but the next set of videos will explain those things.

Also, I've added made some changes to the Image Fixer:





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#182  August 06, 2011, 09:58:46 am
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The original image still looks better, I think you can just give the sprites a little blur, and that's it.  Trying to fix pixelated images to this extreme is just going to come out muddy and wobbly.

I tried to fix it with different filters in photoshop and Flash, but nothing looks as good as the original.   I think the only way to make it look good is drawing it again by hand.
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#183  August 06, 2011, 10:42:36 am
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I tried to fix it with different filters in photoshop and Flash, but nothing looks as good as the original.   I think the only way to make it look good is drawing it again by hand.

That is exactly what I explained.  ;)
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#184  August 06, 2011, 10:48:28 am
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Small rant.

I never made a mugen character..a stage or even a whole programme /engine.

But i made some websites and other stuff.

I never talked about them before i made them or when i was working on them before they got public.

So, how about you stop wasting your time  making videos screenshots and forumthreads  like this one now and make them when you can actually show more than progress and concepts.

Greets and a nice weekend, gbk.
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Re: Fighter Creator
#185  August 06, 2011, 04:56:16 pm
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The original image still looks better, I think you can just give the sprites a little blur, and that's it.  Trying to fix pixelated images to this extreme is just going to come out muddy and wobbly.

I tried to fix it with different filters in photoshop and Flash, but nothing looks as good as the original.   I think the only way to make it look good is drawing it again by hand.
I did use a blur effect, just not on the original sprite.

Small rant.

I never made a mugen character..a stage or even a whole programme /engine.

But i made some websites and other stuff.

I never talked about them before i made them or when i was working on them before they got public.

So, how about you stop wasting your time  making videos screenshots and forumthreads  like this one now and make them when you can actually show more than progress and concepts.

Greets and a nice weekend, gbk.
  :???:... I created this thread so that people would post suggestions on what they would like in a new engine.
All of this is progress, the videos and screenshots may look simple, but the code behind it isn't. I had a huge problem with saving and loading, and had to take a different route in getting it to work.



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#186  August 06, 2011, 06:45:38 pm
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Damn GBK, dont you think thats a little uncalled for? Thats straight up discouragement right there.
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#187  August 06, 2011, 09:54:45 pm
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I see what he's saying, but feed back is good for this stuff.  One person can't think of everything, and comments can provide some motivation.
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#188  August 07, 2011, 12:13:52 am
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Small rant.

I never made a mugen character..a stage or even a whole programme /engine.

But i made some websites and other stuff.

I never talked about them before i made them or when i was working on them before they got public.

So, how about you stop wasting your time  making videos screenshots and forumthreads  like this one now and make them when you can actually show more than progress and concepts.

Greets and a nice weekend, gbk.
this post was fucking stupid and if you ever post something like this again you're banned
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#189  August 07, 2011, 12:39:48 am
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My point is, that it makes more sense to concentrate on this project than to answer many questions, defend it from sceptic people and post concept art which doesnt show how a game really could look.

Sorry, but if it is not allowed to do a small rant without getting personal or anything just to say my mind here than i rather stop posting here by my own and free will and not because the admin who is not able to write without being insulting in the most of his posts. Bye MFG forum.





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#190  August 07, 2011, 12:42:29 am
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#191  August 07, 2011, 01:55:41 am
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Well it doesn't get easier than making low-res stages for MUGEN (Hell, I was able to make stages for MUGEN back when I frequented NBA. Don't do them hoes no more tho.). I wonder if it'll be easier to do so on this here creator.
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#192  August 07, 2011, 03:27:32 am
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The original image still looks better, I think you can just give the sprites a little blur, and that's it.  Trying to fix pixelated images to this extreme is just going to come out muddy and wobbly.

I tried to fix it with different filters in photoshop and Flash, but nothing looks as good as the original.   I think the only way to make it look good is drawing it again by hand.


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I did use a blur effect, just not on the original sprite.


I see you used some blur, but it sounds like you are trying to do something that would give you a better result.  That's what I'm referring to, adding a little blur I think is about the best you can do for this, because of the nature of the source material.

Trying to make something better, like converting the different shades to smooth vector shapes seems like it's just not meant to be.  Even for a Human, to fix an image like that Onslaught, requires an artists interpretation to fill in the gaps, ignore some details and create others.

A computer generated blending job will look just like what it is, because it takes more effort or a human touch to achieve a desired result.


Maybe you can give the users some sliders, to adjust the blur or smudging on their own?
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#193  August 07, 2011, 03:33:50 am
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Well it doesn't get easier than making low-res stages for MUGEN (Hell, I was able to make stages for MUGEN back when I frequented NBA. Don't do them hoes no more tho.). I wonder if it'll be easier to do so on this here creator.
It most definitely will be.


I see you used some blur, but it sounds like you are trying to do something that would give you a better result.  That's what I'm referring to, adding a little blur I think is about the best you can do for this because of the nature of your source material.

Trying to make something better, like converting the different shades to smooth vector shapes seems like it's just not meant to be.  Even for a Human, to fix an image like that Onslaught, requires an artists interpretation to fill in the gaps, ignore some details and create others.

A computer generated blending job will look just like what it is, because it takes more effort or a human touch to achieve a desired result.

Maybe you can give the uses some sliders, to adjust the blur or smudging on their own?
Well really, if your playing a game, you will notice the pixelation more than you will notice a muddy image, but you do have control over how much blur and sharpening you want to apply the pictures I posted had the settings up high.

Last Edit: August 07, 2011, 03:44:40 am by CSGames
Re: Fighter Creator
#194  August 08, 2011, 12:29:01 am
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It would have probably been better to have posted this when you were farther along. I can clearly see that you will not be meeting your deadline.
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#195  August 08, 2011, 04:17:31 am
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My point is, that it makes more sense to concentrate on this project than to answer many questions, defend it from sceptic people and post concept art which doesnt show how a game really could look.
Just to let you guys know, none of the screenshots or videos I've posted were concepts, they are taken directly from the actual editor you would use to make your games in.

It would have probably been better to have posted this when you were farther along. I can clearly see that you will not be meeting your deadline.
It still is a chance, unless another big problem comes up again.


Re: Fighter Creator
#196  August 08, 2011, 05:05:02 am
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That's why most people making stuff for fun have a 'when it's done' deadline. DNF too, but that's a special case. :P

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#197  August 08, 2011, 05:16:48 am
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That's why most people making stuff for fun have a 'when it's done' deadline. DNF too, but that's a special case. :P
lol, I should have done that, but I didn't expect to many problems while working on FC.

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#198  August 08, 2011, 05:10:06 pm
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#199  August 09, 2011, 12:06:18 am
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You know how Diepod doesn't set deadlines for his character....yeah that.
Re: Fighter Creator
#200  August 11, 2011, 03:46:28 am
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Okay, here is part 3 of the menu editor progress series, this time showing 3D panels. I hope you guys like this video better than the last one, don't want anybody to pull another GBK on me :sugoi:. ( Must watch in 1080p in order to really see whats going on. ) :
Fighter Creator Menu Editor Progress 3

And here an updated version of the image scaler :

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Resized 3x Normally -


Resized 3x Using New Method -
Last Edit: August 11, 2011, 06:13:32 pm by CSGames