Imposter Mickey Mouse said, November 26, 2013, 01:53:05 amAnd still nobody mentioned the USA Sports Team, with Lucky Glauber (black people are so good at dribbling basketballs that they developed a martial art using it), Heavy D (Okay he's not too bad, but he's PATRIOTIC AS FUCK judging by his tattoo on his back), and Briaaaaaaaaaan Battler (Big stupid white football player who likes tackling people for no reason)Doesn't sound too bad until you realize that every time a new team enters KOF, they do it by beating up the USA Sports Team and stealing their invitations. So not only are they caricatures, but they also suck at fighting too. But I guess that's to be expected if you fight by throwing basketballs.then agian they are always beaten by strong fighters, iirc oen time it was ramon, which might be part what cemented ramon as being as strong as terry.
Imposter Mickey Mouse said, November 26, 2013, 01:53:05 amAnd still nobody mentioned the USA Sports Team, with Lucky Glauber (black people are so good at dribbling basketballs that they developed a martial art using it), Heavy D (Okay he's not too bad, but he's PATRIOTIC AS FUCK judging by his tattoo on his back), and Briaaaaaaaaaan Battler (Big stupid white football player who likes tackling people for no reason)Doesn't sound too bad until you realize that every time a new team enters KOF, they do it by beating up the USA Sports Team and stealing their invitations. So not only are they caricatures, but they also suck at fighting too. But I guess that's to be expected if you fight by throwing basketballs.heavy D was like...yeah he didn't exactly fit with their comical nature and i just don't see why he's ended up as comic relief just because he's part of that team. shit get him in a team with shen or vanessa or something, damn. hasn't he had enough?
Birdie was originally a stereotypical 1970 punk, he was then updated with other modern punk characteristics. His original stage had a velvet underground poster and everything.QuoteYou add a fat charismatic character, you get people who'll complain about that, you instead decide to keep him slim, you'll get people who will complain about the game having no fat characters.I dont think you need a huge bouncy exposed belly in order to make a fat character, the same way I dont think you need large bouncy breasts to make a female character.all his costumes focus around showing off his big belly, its kinda weird.Spoiler, click to toggle visibiltyexcept this oneI think it was clear it was supposed to be funny.
Capt. Segway said, November 25, 2013, 09:32:10 pmReally the difference between stereotypes and archetypes is that stereotypes are what people IRL believe about other people. Archetypes are kinds of characters that are used in media.That's what I'm saying!!!-Red- said, November 26, 2013, 01:59:26 amSilver Surfer is the typical California surfer guy stereotype, they just painted him silver and made him surfer through galaxies looking for planets to give to his master Galactus instead of surfing on beaches.That's... not right at all.
Nothing will ever be 100% right and correct when you talk about stereotypes, it's the same thing that happens when you talk about feminism and racism. People will see a stereotype in anything, even in something as ridiculous as my Silver Surfer example. I don't see what's so funny about a dude with an unzipped jacket but some people do find it funny so what can I do?
Iced said, November 26, 2013, 02:28:13 amI dont think you need a huge bouncy exposed belly in order to make a fat character, the same way I dont think you need large bouncy breasts to make a female character.I don't think so, it's part of the fat stereotype... and he's an old example of that
-Red- said, November 26, 2013, 03:35:46 amNothing will ever be 100% right and correct when you talk about stereotypes, it's the same thing that happens when you talk about feminism and racism. People will see a stereotype in anything, even in something as ridiculous as my Silver Surfer example. I don't see what's so funny about a dude with an unzipped jacket but some people do find it funny so what can I do?But... Super Hero Squad isn't canon! It's a bad example! Silver Surfer is not a California surfer dude! >:[
regarding heart, that was mainly cuz that was the main way for kenshiro to open up a weak point for him to kill him with i'd assumethat and it was the post apocalypse, barely anyone wore actual shirts most of the time aside from some miscellaneous straps and vests
Jmorphman said, November 26, 2013, 04:01:47 am-Red- said, November 26, 2013, 03:35:46 amNothing will ever be 100% right and correct when you talk about stereotypes, it's the same thing that happens when you talk about feminism and racism. People will see a stereotype in anything, even in something as ridiculous as my Silver Surfer example. I don't see what's so funny about a dude with an unzipped jacket but some people do find it funny so what can I do?But... Super Hero Squad isn't canon! It's a bad example! Silver Surfer is not a California surfer dude! >:[Nobody gives a shit about Silver Surfer! NOBODY! Same with the Fantastic Four! And that's why you had a movie with both together, because some higher up thought "hey let's put two of our least interesting franchises and characters together in the same movie and we'll make lots of money!", genius!
-Red- said, November 26, 2013, 04:10:08 amNobody gives a shit about Silver Surfer! NOBODY! Same with the Fantastic Four! And that's why you had a movie with both together, because some higher up thought "hey let's put two of our least interesting franchises and characters together in the same movie and we'll make lots of money!", genius!You are so wrong you are the mayor of Wrongtown, which is of course the capital of United States of Profoundly Wrong.>:[
yeah the reason fantastic four isnt as popular is cuz the movies flopped horribly if they did successfully, as successfully as say iron man then they woulda been popular as shit toooh and they dont appear in everything like the other mcu characters do due to that popularity spike on both ends
Jmorphman said, November 26, 2013, 04:12:54 am-Red- said, November 26, 2013, 04:10:08 amNobody gives a shit about Silver Surfer! NOBODY! Same with the Fantastic Four!You are so wrong you are the mayor of Wrongtown, which is of course the capital of United States of Profoundly Wrong.Agreed, Silver Surfer is the shiz, what's wrong with you.
Imposter Mickey Mouse said, November 26, 2013, 12:23:57 amI think my favorite stereotype character is Mr. Jones, mostly because they fucked it up.He's a black dude with an afro and sunglasses, and his theme song has a 70's style beat, and he's always talking about geting funky. The designers changed their mind halfway through and gave him a Bruce Lee track suit and made his movelist be based on Jeet Kun Do.He's a two-in-one!It's not a stereotype, it's a homage. Obviously you have absolutely no idea about "Black Belt Jones", and the blaxploitation films on the 70s
Interesting points, especially regarding the name. Doesn't change the fact thatA) He's wearing Bruce Lee's suit from Game of DeathB) He bears a very strong resemblence (down to the hairstyle) to Kareem Abdul Jabbar's appearance in... Game of DeathC) He fucking sucks as a fighter, at least according to all the dialogue in the game.
But Mr.Jones is a 70's black guy stereotype/archetype (whatever): Black guy with an afro, shades, likes to "get funky." No different from Tiger Jackson.That doesn't make Mr.Jones a bad character though (being inspired by Jim Kelly is awesome).
Unless people actually believe black people look and act like those guys then no they are not stereotypes.
Am I the only one here that's super confuzzled? You guys(or I guess we, now) need to all agree on oje definition of stereotype, preferably the dictionary one...
