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Gamedev Blacklist
#1  December 01, 2014, 03:38:23 pm
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http://www.themarysue.com/twitter-users-mad-about-gamergate-block-bots/

In the Wake of Gamergate the people that oppose Gamergate have put out a tool for blocking out "abuse in twitter". this black list automatically blocks people that the dev has deemed to be pro gamergate.
This includes KFC and a lot of devs.

The IGDA ( gamedev international) has decided to support the blacklist and is spreading it as a useful tool to curtail "abusers" in the internet, with the list having been used by some companies to ban people, including junior gamedevs , from attending events.

When approached to be unbanned, people were told to go fuck themselves.

They have since then allowed SOME people to be unbanned, but the idea is that from now on if you support anything they dont agree with, you are to be locked out of gamedev.


Some people have an issue with this.
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#2  December 01, 2014, 03:45:06 pm
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emselves.

 the idea is that from now on if you support anything they dont agree with, you are to be locked out of gamedev.

Some people have an issue with this.

I can't imagine why.
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#3  December 01, 2014, 03:59:40 pm
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That seems to be the answer in our cyber society: to ostracize instead of trying to create a forum of negotiation. It's happened time and time again, one side of the group believes that the other side's stance is unruly, and as such think of them as unruly savages, and as such will find ways to take them off of their radar. Out of sight, out of mind.

I expected this to occur: I am sad to say that this is human nature: our natural urge to stray from danger and stray to comfort might be the reason people are so quick to dehumanize other people for anything: color, creed, walk of life, stance, the list goes on.

What I do not like about this specific event is that once the knowledge that they are banned come into light, those who want a conversation about it just gets the cold shoulder like these people are beneath them. I do not like the fact that some people just downright refuse to think critically, to think that maybe they are wrong, or in turn think they are right, but instead of burning a bridge, try to help other people understand your stance and why you are led to it.

I sometimes wonder if this is just another story of the computer being the shield of bigotry, and I mean that on both sides.
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#4  December 01, 2014, 04:05:37 pm
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If someone wants to block you so they can have the last word instead of having intelligent discourse, they aren't worth talking to in the first place.  I wish more people did that instead of drawing attention to people who thrive on it.
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#5  December 01, 2014, 04:16:02 pm
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Nothing wrong with blocking people out of a conversation you dont want to participate in.

Something wrong with labeling anyone that talks of a subject as being "ABUSERS" that need to be blacklisted. Thats straight up discriminating and implies that "Good" people wouldnt discuss themes you deem bad.
Imagine if Watergate was deemed a bad subject that reporters would be added to an "abuser" list whenever they talked about it.


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#6  December 01, 2014, 04:17:45 pm
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Nothing wrong with blocking people out of a conversation you dont want to participate in.

I agree with this, hence my last comment.  Some people you are not going to have a good conversation with and it's not worth the stress for either of you.

Something wrong with labeling anyone that talks of a subject as being "ABUSERS" that need to be blacklisted. Thats straight up discriminating and implies that "Good" people wouldnt discuss themes you deem bad.
Imagine if Watergate was deemed a bad subject that reporters would be added to an "abuser" list whenever they talked about it.

I honestly think that would have happened had Watergate not gone down in the pre internet age.  However this IS the internet age so people have to work harder to censor things. 

FYI before anyone gets the wrong idea I'm neutral on GG, I just call it like I see it.
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#7  December 01, 2014, 04:22:10 pm
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doesnt matter, you talked about it, you are a mysoginistic harasser on the blocklist now.
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#8  December 01, 2014, 04:26:36 pm
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Plus I follow Event Status on Twitter, RIP my internet credibility.
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#9  December 01, 2014, 04:46:34 pm
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You know, this blacklisting may be illegal if it is used to discriminate and exclude people out of working in a certain industry all because of a political reason.

But then again, I am pretty sure that there are more prestigious gaming organizations who condemn this blacklist.
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#10  December 01, 2014, 05:09:37 pm
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You can't assist to events held by gaming dev hipsters who couldn't get a real job programming software so they had to get some bucks coding shit games to pay their rent, pfffft. With all the shit they give to the pro-GG site you would expect them to actually talk about what's so wrong with the opposition instead of actually giving them more ammo with stupid crap like this.

I don't really want to take a side when it comes to gamergate because both sides have some shitty stuff I dislike but the anti-GG side is clearly the worse of the evils. Luckily the gaming industry is quite open and you don't really need of any of these idiots as long as you have some actual talent. Create a good game and other respectable neutral sites will talk about it, people will talk about it, people will buy it, people will convince others to buy it. You're making games for the people, not for these guys. You just don't need them, they're expendable people.
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#11  December 01, 2014, 05:35:35 pm
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#12  December 01, 2014, 06:22:09 pm
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I think your info's out of date. Last I heard, IGDA removed the blacklist from their site really quickly.
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#13  December 01, 2014, 06:58:03 pm
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that does not make this post any worthless, it means the list existed, but igda got some backlash so they pussied out of it.
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#14  December 01, 2014, 08:57:23 pm
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I think your info's out of date. Last I heard, IGDA removed the blacklist from their site really quickly.

the list was made with intervention by IGDA themselves according to this.

http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2014/11/igda-founder-responds-to-indie-devs-being-blocked-on-gamergate-blocklist/

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Others agreed that the chairman deserved to be on the list because he reprimanded Geordie Tait, a former writer for Starcity Games, over comments Tait made during a King of Pol live-stream about wanting to send anyone who supported #GamerGate to the gas chambers, and that they deserved to die like Nazis.



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"Why is @igda using an untested tool with such a flawed algorithm? Blocked by follow list? I've been in software development for 29 years and that is the most idiotic algorithm I've seen!

“Is not about who is relevant or not, being tagged as a harasser by this method is harassment itself
But relevancy you want? I was reverse engineering and doing emus before you could pick up a controller. I don't care I'm blocked, it is not a popularity contest, I care about being named a harasser publicly without harassment proof.”
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“A misogynist?! I'm a primary sponsor of @IncludeGirls group that seeks to increase women roles in tech! Applying criminal or anti ethical labels to people on the court of public opinion without evidence in principle is wrong”



and they only removed it once Rosario threatened them with resignation and legal action

https://twitter.com/siloraptor/status/536046032703213570/photo/1



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[Update:] A post on the GitHub page explains that the “Blocklist” has been renamed to the “Sourcelist”, with  creator Randi Harper stating…

This is not creating a "blacklist" to keep people out of the industry, you unemployed neckbeard (if you could grow a beard) cockwaffles. It is creating a "blocklist" so normal people don't have to listen to your incoherent looneybin conspiracy theories peppered by whatever's on your political word-of-the-day calendar.



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#15  December 02, 2014, 03:41:11 pm
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I'm aware.
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#16  December 02, 2014, 04:27:34 pm
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what's up with crazy chicks and dyed hair
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#17  December 02, 2014, 04:49:26 pm
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Who knows?

Maybe there is something in the neon-colored hair dye?
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#18  December 02, 2014, 04:51:05 pm
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Obviously hair dye is to women what fedoras are to men.
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#19  December 02, 2014, 04:57:48 pm
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no way, fedoras instantly make people look unattractive but dyed hair can be done well
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#21  December 02, 2014, 05:02:07 pm
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Indiana Jones wore a fedora, so did Dick Tracy. its mostly that fedorad people nowadays are people trying to "play" at being adults.

In that aspect neon hair is also usually girls trying to "play" at being rebels.

Wait, if fedoraguys go "M'lady" what do neonhairgirls use as a mating call?
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#23  December 02, 2014, 05:04:24 pm
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"check your privielege" XDDD']

btw, maybe i actually mean trillbies. and harrison ford looks better hatless



this image kinda owns. i actually think all the hats look ridiculous
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#24  December 02, 2014, 05:06:48 pm
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You laughing at me mate?  You better stop that.

Really I think that fedora just looks good on older dudes, like mid 30s and older.  It just compliments the mature look or something IDK.
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#25  December 02, 2014, 05:09:46 pm
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well you actually ninja'd me but i was posting it completely facetiously whereas you seem kinda serious, so it is kinda funny if you are serious

also the looks outdated to me (fedoras, not trillbies, trillbies are timelessly bad)
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#26  December 02, 2014, 05:14:09 pm
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It can look alright but it hardly ever does. Its the kind of stuff that if you need a hat to look classy you wont look good anyway. Its like suspenders.  They can look good but if you HAVE to wear them to look good they wont look good.
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#27  December 02, 2014, 05:15:33 pm
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Well I was hoping to come off slightly facetious given the topic of discussion.  I thought you would have picked that up after my hair dye = fedora post because obviously not everyone who dyes their hair is a insane Tumblr stereotype.

After all some of them are insane in completely different ways.

It can look alright but it hardly ever does. Its the kind of stuff that if you need a hat to look classy you wont look good anyway. Its like suspenders.  They can look good but if you HAVE to wear them to look good they wont look good.

I used to think suspenders looked really stupid but now I don't mind so much.  Maybe it's one of those things like how when you're young you think glasses look dorky but then you see them on the right person and they look okay.
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#28  December 02, 2014, 05:18:49 pm
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back in elementary school all the frames were circular, thin harry potter type shit. i dont blame kids for that stereotype
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You laughing at me mate?  You better stop that.

Really I think that fedora just looks good on older dudes, like mid 30s and older.  It just compliments the mature look or something IDK.
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#31  December 03, 2014, 12:05:41 am
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wow that's cool, I hope that all feminazi and related do the neon hair thing; that would be the most useful thing invented since the internet.
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Santtu's post is the greatest in the history of ever.


Also their "algorithm" for auto-adding people to the blocklist is fucking trash. All it does is check if they follow any of the accounts in blacklist.txt lol. I've known about this and the list for a while. I talk about GG on Twitter all the time, complete with hashtags, yet I still amazingly have not made it on that stupid list.


Titiln is apparently a misogynist cishet trash harasser who deserves to be gassed though cuz he did!
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yeah i follow milo and Blocker "Mr FArt". i also follow people that dislike gamergate. getting two sides of a story?? impossible. i must be a bipolar mess. you can only follow people you 100% agree with. huge twitter blocklists based on who you follow are completely fucking stupid
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It sounds like Twitter is a very bad place to hang out in at the moment.
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#35  December 04, 2014, 03:33:30 pm
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if you follow shitty accounts and get in pointless arguments yeah it's a bad place to hang out at. like most social networks, twitter is what you make of it
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#36  December 04, 2014, 05:04:51 pm
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I follow EventStatus but I followed him forever because of his consumer videos.  Has nothing to do with GG, which it shouldn't since I'm not involved at all.
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if you follow shitty accounts and get in pointless arguments yeah it's a bad place to hang out at. like most social networks, twitter is what you make of it

This. Like Tumblr, it REALLY depends on who you follow.


Except on Tumblr, God forbid you have an opinion someone else doesn't like.