Shundhi said, July 16, 2010, 06:29:26 amThat is exactly why the biggest fools here are the proponents of building a mosque near ground zero. Any silly person could and more than likely would, do something to the mosque, its attendants, or people believed to be its attendants. The idea itself is just foolish, and I can't say that I would be opposed to prohibition of its creation on the grounds that allowing it would simply cause ill-will and greatly increase the likelihood of domestically-bred violence.Well if they wanted to do something they'd do it, whether the mosque was there or not. this just provides another target. If people were afraid of being attacked then pretty much almost all great accomplishments wouldn't have happened.
true, but would probably be a higher chance of a mosque attack since it's right at the spot. I think that would be more angering that just a mosque in the middle of nowhere.
Righteously Egor said, July 16, 2010, 06:52:01 amand it sucks that that's generally how things work, but I don't think that making our country the way that we claim it to be is unrealistic though. I'd just say that it's highly unprobable in our lifetime. Saying that it isn't realistic for people to realize their hypocrisy isn't necessarily right either. One needn't look further than woman's rights or civil rights movements. but like I said, a complete 180 on an issue such as this probably won't happen anytime soon.Thanks for the input/clarification. I didn't say that it is unrealistic for people to realize that they are being hypocrites. I said, that their hypocrisy doesn't matter to them. Time after time many a counter activist goes out of their way to "reason" with these people, and point out the very, very obvious contradictions between what the protesting movement is preaching and the actions of the protestors/our country/the orgnizations they support, BUT all of the evidence falls on deaf ears. The protestors continue, either in full knowledge of their hypocrisy or else by purposely ignoring it. I'm saying that they have more than likely already acknowledged that they are hypocrites, but simply push that issue aside.momo! said, July 16, 2010, 06:54:27 amWell if they wanted to do something they'd do it, whether the mosque was there or not.What? momo! said, July 16, 2010, 06:54:27 amIf people were afraid of being attacked then pretty much almost all great accomplishments wouldn't have happened.Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single legitimate great accomplishment made on the part of a minority group in an area where sentiment is so heavily set against them (excuse me; sentiment on the part of the majority group that also happened to be in power). Maybe the Dome of Rock (Mosque) in Israel could provide a good example."Almost all" great accomplishments came from people living in areas that posed a great threat to them, really? Provide me with some examples... and please make sure those examples are accurate?No offense, but I think you should replace "almost all" with "some" maybe even "a few."Righteously Egor said, July 16, 2010, 07:01:01 amtrueDid you really call that, "true?" lVI'm not quite sure I caught your entire point, but I'll cut you some slack. I might be tempted to argue that there have been other mosques that have gone up around the country (and in NY I would presume) that garnered no protests and did not make news, yet this one, located so close to ground zero did(!), but upon rereading some of your former posts you actually said something similar to that already, so...
Shundhi said, July 16, 2010, 07:14:55 amRighteously Egor said, July 16, 2010, 07:01:01 amtrueDid you really call that, "true?" refering to the "if they were willing to attack a mosque they'd do it regardless of where it is" bit. Which would probably be only true in either theory or if this were Norway and Mosques were christian churches. It's late and my apartment has no air condition. cut me some slack.
I don't mind mosque next to my house as long as they turn off those goddamn loud speakers, they clearly intolerant to non muslim by playing the tape of prayers from the speakers at the top of their minorets on the loudest volume 5 times a day. not to mention the earliest being 3AM in the morning.
I do live in a predominant muslim country so what can I say... but still 3 AM in the morning, who wouldn't be disturbed, what's wrong with praying by heart. What I'm trying to say, stop thinking that they are always the victim of discrimination. in another part of the world it will not be the case at all.
Not sure what you mean. Apartheid South Africa, Slavery-clad Haiti, Slavery-Clad Brazil, etc. seem to counter that assertion.
1 man with a pistol counted as 5 men, 1 man with shotgun counted as 10 men, 1 man with mg counted as 20 men, though in the other hand 1 man with suicide bomb vest counted as all the men in certain radius+ himself
navetsea said, July 17, 2010, 03:19:59 am1 man with a pistol counted as 5 men, 1 man with shotgun counted as 10 men, 1 man with mg counted as 20 men, though in the other hand 1 man with suicide bomb vest counted as all the men in certain radius+ himselfLMAO
TheChosenOne said, July 17, 2010, 05:26:41 amnavetsea said, July 17, 2010, 03:19:59 am1 man with a pistol counted as 5 men, 1 man with shotgun counted as 10 men, 1 man with mg counted as 20 men, though in the other hand 1 man with suicide bomb vest counted as all the men in certain radius+ himselfLMAO That's not really funny.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40124.htmlSarah Palin is very critical of the mosque, then comes automated modding system on facebook that thinks her post is hatespeech and thus censor it.
Iced said, July 23, 2010, 01:17:25 pmhttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40124.htmlSarah Palin is very critical of the mosque, then comes automated modding system on facebook that thinks her post is hatespeech and thus censor it.BWAHAHAHAHAIt couldn't have happened to a better person.
OH NOES!http://wonkette.com/417009/attention-bigots-there-is-already-a-mosque-near-the-wtc-siteThis is Obama's Et for atari.
Ironically, the date for when the mosque that's already at ground 0, Obama's birthday, and the day that Lucifer got booted from heaven are all the same date.
