Awesome, congrats for release
By the way, does your Hanzo have that special intro vs Syn's strider? (Where they are having some conversation before fight, I saw a video of this somewhere...)

Great release! I hope to have some time to test the two ninjas soon, and I hope Dampir will make a CvS sff patch in the future!!

Entering neutral pha-ah screw it, I'm enjoying these so far, here's some preliminary stuff before the SERIOUS MODO testing. As a forewarning note, I am testing ONLY on MUGEN 1.0.
- Can't chain from Light to Heavy normals.

- Having issues running and performing small jumps.

- IMO he slides too much when landing from backdash.

- Can crouch while running.

- c.MK is the trip instead of c.SK ?

- c.LP can be chained into c.MP and c.SP, but failt to connect because of pushback/cornerpush.

- Are you sure the stance is set up correctly. It looks kinda jerky to me, with a frame or two going backwards during the anim. May be like that in the original game, just felt it was odd.

- 2nd Jumping Hard Kick looks strange when performed during back jump, since he inverses the rotation.

- Tanagokoro should probably get some width, because it looks really strange when performed near the opponent (the FX appears behind P2).

- What's the point of listing target combos in the readme? Just say light links to mediums which links to strong. x,b,z and a,y,c are valid target combos and they're not listed.

- I can throw during run.

- I recall vels where similar in the original game, but the vels when going down from strong/EX Kohryuha are really odd. I think you overdid it here. Doesn't feel natural.

- There's no landing FX when landing from Ninpo Kohrin Kazan.

- With P2 in corner, medium and strong Mijin Komoru no Subi have Hanzo facing the wrong direction when he lands. Shouldn't the turn sctrl be after the posset/posadd instead of before ? Or at least triggered depending on where Hanzo is with respect to P2.

- You overdid it concerning the sound of MAX Okugi Banten Senkoujin's last projectile. The sounds loop too much and hurt my ears.

- Secret Taunt is very unbalanced, there are no CLSNs, allowing you to dodge projectiles and other stuff.

- Why doesn't Ikazuchi Shikon Gekijou have a green super BG ?

I'm not sure where you're seeing this. Whether he appears in front of behind P2, he faces and lands in the proper direction for me. Maybe you can screenshot it for me?

Good LAWD, Cy. Less "Nice car +1" and a little more feedback?

I'm not totally sure what you mean. What is it disregarding and what is it doing exactly?

Sorry for the late reply.

KojiroBADNESS said, January 05, 2013, 12:37:29 pm

I see what you mean by missing this detail... because I've never heard or even thought of this. I can't pull it off either LOL. Maybe it's the negative edge? I really don't know. If you could elaborate or give me a little more insight on this, I'll see what I can do.

Sure. It's more of an unconscious thing, the games have it but we just never notice it.

For example, in KOF:

If you are trying to input a D,DF,F + P special move but you do the input like: D,DF,F,B + P then the move will not work.

The final horizontal direction used in command inputs is considered a "critical" direction. If you hold down the exact opposite before performing the move, the command will not register.

In this same fashion, the vertical directions are also checked. If your input ends with a horizontal direction (mid-range vertical) then depending on your statetype, it won't register if you hold either down or up. For most ground moves, this means that you cannot hold down after the critical direction, but you are allowed to hold up, to make use of TK moves.

In a more casual setting, this is something we do on reflex. We sometimes input hadouken motions but press either back or down to cancel the input.

Adding this makes a world of difference, it feels great.

This is how I usually set it up (QCF+P example):

Code:

;---------------------------------------------------------------------------
;Combat Code JAE 
[State -1, Combat Code JAE]
type = ChangeState
value = 1420
triggerall = RoundState < 3
triggerall = ifelse((Anim!=[5,6]),(command="qcf_p"),(command="qcb_p"))
triggerall = (helper(999999),command != "holddown")
triggerall = ifelse((Anim!=[5,6]),(command != "holdback"),(command!="holdfwd"))
triggerall = Statetype != A

Critical direction is forward (mid-range vertical = standing statetype) = you cannot hold down, you cannot hold back.

KojiroBADNESS said, January 05, 2013, 12:37:29 pm

I'm not totally sure what you mean. What is it disregarding and what is it doing exactly?

Ah sorry, it wasn't clear at all.

Krauser was using Kaiser Wave, a hyper-level projectile. Using Hanzo's special projectile, I was able to cancel it out completely disregarding the projectile priorities.