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Hard & Soft Knockdowns?
#1  December 10, 2013, 08:37:20 pm
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Considering the last time I checked, mugen lets you get up from a knockdown as soon as possible by mashing buttons, eliminating the possibility of enforcing Hard Knockdowns. Am I right in assuming that the only way of enforcing a Hard Knockdown would be through the use of custom states, or am I missing something?

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Alpaca-San said, February 09, 2014, 07:44:05 pm
You limit yourself so badly when you try to avoid variables. When you get over your fear of the "complexity" of variables, you will find yourself in a better place: A beautiful world where coding is actually fun.

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Re: Hard & Soft Knockdowns?
#2  December 10, 2013, 09:22:57 pm
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For opponents? Yes. You can also program it so that your characters don't get up to the mash and it's not too hard.

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#3  December 11, 2013, 10:57:12 pm
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Yeah, I meant for opponents. Not too concerned about disabling the mashing on player 1's side through custom states as I'll let player 2 decide how to handle that.

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Alpaca-San said, February 09, 2014, 07:44:05 pm
You limit yourself so badly when you try to avoid variables. When you get over your fear of the "complexity" of variables, you will find yourself in a better place: A beautiful world where coding is actually fun.

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Re: Hard & Soft Knockdowns?
#4  December 16, 2013, 04:38:39 am
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Caddie said, December 10, 2013, 09:22:57 pm
You can also program it so that your characters don't get up to the mash and it's not too hard.
How would you go about doing that? Write your own state to replace state 5110, then override the states that point to it and have them point to the replacement state instead?

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#5  December 16, 2013, 05:02:01 am
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Im assuming that's what he was talking about, but again, it sounds like something that should be handled on the attacker's side rather than the defender.

Also, since implementing the custom state method, seeing as I mostly had to copy mugen's default state 5110, I noticed that it would use the default hitsound for hitting the ground, but I'm guessing there's no way around this since there's no set standard for that sound like there is for KO and such and, due to its character dependence, would be impossible to enforce?

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Alpaca-San said, February 09, 2014, 07:44:05 pm
You limit yourself so badly when you try to avoid variables. When you get over your fear of the "complexity" of variables, you will find yourself in a better place: A beautiful world where coding is actually fun.
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