The Mugen Fighters Guild - Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

Loona

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#21 November 13, 2009, 05:29:36 pm

Nothing ever ends

Tamez said, November 13, 2009, 05:00:47 pm

Given your work with Final Fantasy, I'm going to say that I'd really like to see what you would do with the character Rydia from Final Fantasy IV.

In the Dead Fantasy animations, to give summoner (same class/job as Rydia) Yuna an even enough opponent, he had to pit her against lots of Kasumi clones, since the summons were the ones doing the actual fighting there.
I'm not sure how well that'd workin a 1-on-1 setting outside of the occasional special or super, like Donovan's moves in the Darkstalkers/Vampire games.

BTW, I totally forgot to mention a possible suggestion for a character that could use custom sprites: Gally from Gunnm (I'm even more partial to Zechs from the latest Last Order series, but he'd suffer from Sagat eye-patch syndrome).

"Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise.
Seek what they sought" - Basho

Titiln said, March 25, 2010, 10:55:25 pm

give me the power. i must have the power

Romeotantan

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#22 November 13, 2009, 05:56:18 pm

Portrait maker/AI coder

Loona said, November 13, 2009, 03:27:01 pm

- Grown-up Jin Chonrei from the Fatal Fury series as seen ni a few Real Bout 2 endings:

He is not grown up, Tung is short, therefore practically he is still the same, but on the other hand any new addition to Fatal fury or art of fighting is very welcomed by me cause as you said obviously SNK is not going to continue the southtown story any time soon.

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Tamez

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#23 November 13, 2009, 06:28:10 pm

I work at Elecbyte as a sexy janitor.

Loona said, November 13, 2009, 05:29:36 pm

to give summoner (same class/job as Rydia) Yuna an even enough opponent, he had to pit her against lots of Kasumi clones, since the summons were the ones doing the actual fighting there.

Sure Rydia is mostly known for being a summoner, but don't forget she has other fighting skills as well. She uses whips, can equip daggers, and of course has her black magic. Summons being used only for supers would be fine by me. I'd even wouldn't mind if the Mist Dragon was her only summon.

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montyoum

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#24 November 13, 2009, 08:06:56 pm

Hmm i guess as style goes, I'm thinking it'd be nice to make a whole set of characters along the same theme.

I know mugen is about mashing up characters and having anyone you want. But I do like consistency, and say what if I made a sprite pack of about 20-30 characters. Would that be enough for everyone in the community to chip in on making a whole standalone game?

Reu and I were friends, years ago before i started Dead Fantasy & Haloid we messaged back and forth a lot about making a character together. Then the worste happened. Honestly if could go back and put off Dead Fantasy for a year and had made that character we were talking about...

I think his characters were really the best balance of over the top badassness and playability. I'm thinking even of making highres updates for his characters, even though I imagine those sprite set would be enormous especially DC.

I think the easiest set of sprites for me to make would be something like the recent mugen Yuna I've seen. But much better animated (no offense to whomever made it)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44NmyouepAk

The sprite size is decent and it won't require too much post work on my part.

Speaking of which, what would be the best format & dimensions for a sprite pack. I downloaded the most recent Mugen 1.0 and I like what I see. KFM 720 looks to be of a great resolution. It is rediculous of me to think that maybe I could animate a character with the framerate of Cragonclaw, but with the resolution of like BlazBlue? I remember thinking years ago that the file would probably unloadable, but looking at the res of the new mugen, it'd really pimp their new engine.

I wonder what else Mugen 1.0 is capable of over the old Mugen? Like will it support multiple sprite sets? Say instead of different palettes could it load whole different characters i.e. 2p outfit like how it is in most 3d fighters?

Well hey guys! I'm glad for all the feedback! This is getting me really pumped to make something now! These are some great suggestions. I really think Mugen deserves more attention than it has. I've been working in games for over 2 years now (at Midway and Namco) and I still mention often that the creativity I've seen in mugen trumps alot of what I've seen proffesionally. And that people here are more of a designer than many of the people I've worked with.

I am quite buisy lately with so many projects and like 6 movies to deliver for next year, so please dont' hold me to delivering any of this so soon. But as you can tell I'm always in it for the long run. As soon as I get some tests up I'll post them here.

Last Edit: November 13, 2009, 08:21:40 pm by montyoum

Loona

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#25 November 13, 2009, 08:38:39 pm

Nothing ever ends

montyoum said, November 13, 2009, 08:06:56 pm

I wonder what else Mugen 1.0 is capable of over the old Mugen? Like will it support multiple sprite sets? Say instead of different palettes could it load whole different characters i.e. 2p outfit like how it is in most 3d fighters?

Now that you can load different palettes on a character mid-match (if you know the classic Samurai Shodown games, it's pretty much something that allows stuff like having skin or clothing colors change on the fly), it's a bit more viable making something like a transforming character.

However, you're still bound to required sprites for things like throws, which are coded in the opponent (and work under the expectation all characters have those get-hurt sprites; this isn't an issue an a standalone game though) - for regular hits there are ways to use different sprites for special "transformed" states, so those are less troublesome.

So in theory now it's possible to pull off something like a Shang Tsung or Street Fighter 2 Rainbow Edition character that transforms into something completely different at will, but whom will appear as its default form when under a custom state (like a throw or hold) by an opponent.
In a "closed" game, however, you can code around that limitation because you know exactly what characters you're dealing with.

BTW, if you're conceiving sprite sheets for characters, the minimum required are mentioned here:

http://elecbyte.com/mugendocs/spr.html

Just about everything else is sort of optional/customiseable, but people tend to expect basics like stance, walking, jumping, walking, dashes, blocking and whatnot. From then on it really depends on how you want them to play.

The thought of a whole line of characters can be impressive, but over the years I've been impressed by many people and things in Mugen, and from what I've already seen from you (really gotta check that youtube link, no access right now), I'm certainly intrigued by what's coming up, regardless of quantity.

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Seek what they sought" - Basho

Titiln said, March 25, 2010, 10:55:25 pm

give me the power. i must have the power

Last Edit: November 13, 2009, 08:53:44 pm by Loona

Lasombra Demon

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#26 November 13, 2009, 08:49:19 pm

WIP: SF4 CE

ubaldo_saul said, November 13, 2009, 02:42:59 pm

Hello montyoum
It's great to know you want to sprite something for mugen.
Well, as i'm not a great spriter, I would like to see a SilverHawk like Steelwill or QuickSilver. That would be awesome. I hope you know them.

As strange as it sounds, I think I'ld love to see a set of spritesheets from the cartoons we watched while growing up more than anything else.
+1

K.O.D

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#27 November 13, 2009, 08:52:12 pm

what a shame

Cliff B said, November 13, 2009, 02:06:44 pm

Gory Cybaster said, November 13, 2009, 02:01:41 pm
Dante from Devil May Cry.

This.

I support this suggestion.

Duo Solo

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#28 November 13, 2009, 09:12:24 pm

Sup, welcome to Mugen Guild. Your project is very interesting.

Alchemist

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#29 November 13, 2009, 09:49:30 pm

Welcome to Die!

Monty! great to have you and welcome, big fan can't wait for the next instalment of Dead Fantasy! my personal choices would be:

Anime/comic/manga:

The Guyver (not 1 game has been produced, something with so much character lol)
Spawn (straight badass)
Itachi (a man can dream)

Games:

Dante (big favourite for many mugen fans)
Jehuty from Z.O.E (some of your earlier female models reminded me of this, and could prove for some interesting gameplay)

whatever your final decision good luck i know it's gonna be awesome!

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Mili

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#30 November 13, 2009, 09:50:47 pm

Cliff B said, November 13, 2009, 02:06:44 pm

Gory Cybaster said, November 13, 2009, 02:01:41 pm
Dante from Devil May Cry.

This.

Agree, Dante Always...

Duo Solo

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#31 November 13, 2009, 09:55:02 pm

Hopefully, a good Sonic the Hedgehog character. Everyone wants one, nobody wants to put in the effort to make one. *sigh*

Raizo

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#32 November 13, 2009, 10:10:53 pm

*lol*

Everyone is suggesting Dante and I highly approve!

... Even though Bugya is apparently making one. Regardless, seeing him in a BlazBlue style would be a dream, no doubt about that.

Also, I'd like to say that even though I'm not a fan of the Final Fantasy games (or even Halo), I think your work is phenomenal.

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Gongarea

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#33 November 13, 2009, 10:13:45 pm

Wish he had a tommy gun that'll be sick!!!!!

hello monty i have a couple of suggestions i have not seen from anyone yet:

Anime/comic/manga: Shonen Jump( REBORN

especially but not limited to: Bleach and Naruto(i've never seen a decent one IMO) and Gintama) and Soul Eater,Inuyasha and finally FMA

oh and also some of the characters from SuperSFIV, DOA and I guess thats it

keep up the good work and i can;t wait to see what will you decide

Last Edit: November 13, 2009, 10:45:03 pm by Gongarea

Lasombra Demon

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#34 November 13, 2009, 10:19:04 pm

WIP: SF4 CE

Another one who just popped my mind and could look great if modeled in 3D first: Raziel from Soul Reaver.

Demitri

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#35 November 13, 2009, 10:49:00 pm

Ryne said, November 13, 2009, 09:55:02 pm

Hopefully, a good Sonic the Hedgehog character. Everyone wants one, nobody wants to put in the effort to make one. *sigh*

Hadoabuser made a good one,though in his personal style

Anyway i say Kairi from SF EX
Though i really doubt this is the real montyoum

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Last Edit: November 14, 2009, 12:49:22 am by Geйesis

Alchemist

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#36 November 13, 2009, 11:14:50 pm

Welcome to Die!

Lasombra Demon said, November 13, 2009, 10:19:04 pm

Another one who just popped my mind and could look great if modeled in 3D first: Raziel from Soul Reaver.

i'd literally wet myself if they continued Kains reign next gen

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Kicker Cutleg

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#37 November 13, 2009, 11:37:33 pm

yes you do

I've got a Half Life 1 Model that I'd like to animate on Mugen, but I've no idea how, if you want to download it for reference, PM me and I'll send you a link to the model viewer and my model

guns and sword would be nice please

Oh and just by the way, I would die from sheer pleasure if you made raziel

I've also got a set of ripped sprites from an old sega megadrive game, my childhood hero, the corrupted villain, Green.

I've got too many names.

Last Edit: November 14, 2009, 12:01:42 am by Kicker Cutleg

Fake BRS player

Re: Hello, Anyone interested in custom made sprites?

#38 November 14, 2009, 12:14:14 am

I still haven't raged enough

i'm sure Dante from the DMC series has already been mentioned here so...

what about:

~Gaming~
Fire Emblem (in general) - Ike, Marth, Roy, Ephraim, Eirika, Heather
The Legend Of Zelda - Ganondorf, Zelda, Shiek
Tales of Legendia - Senel, Vaclav, Chloe
FF7 - an actual at least decent Sephiroth
FF8 - Squall Leonhart
FF2 - Firion, Maria
FF12 - Vaan, Ashe

~Anime~
Bleach - Izuru Kira, Hisagi Shuhei, Nemu Kurotsushi
Ghost - Frau

thats all i got so far.

Shamrock said, March 23, 2012, 08:24:32 pm

What weird is that he was probably using it to get children to go places alone with him.

"Hey tommy, do you like Nintendo? Then step into my office. Here Tommy, play with my joystick."