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HELP - Resizing character select screen
#1  May 10, 2009, 06:38:44 am
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I will try my best to make this question as clear and as short as possible while still getting my question understood.

I have WinMugenPlus - Unknown Motiff screenpack.  (trying to get the character select screen fixed (resized))

UM screen pack works just fine when I install it in to normal winmugen.

UM screen pack works just fine when I install it in to High Res (mugen plus) EXCEPT for one problem. The Character Select Screen is smaller. It is all on the screen, but it is scaled down big time and in the top left corner.

My goal is to fix this one problem.

I've done research in to fixing it, and correct me if i'm wrong. I have to open the system.sff sprites (which I don't know how to do) (i've downloaded sffextract, but that doesn't work it just opens msdos for a sec and disappears) Whenever I open the sprites I just double them in size. Then I have to go in to some data document and type in new information. I don't know if this is correct, but just some information that i've collected. If it is right, is there any way to open the sprites for character select screen without sffextract?

Any information on this problem would be appreciated. I know i'm a big time newb and I hope you guys can bare with me. Thanks.

Noctis

Re: HELP - Resizing character select screen
#2  May 11, 2009, 09:47:28 am
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Why do users like you always say things like "I'm sorry I'm so lame. Please bare with it...". Just because you're new doesn't mean you're different, but we are cooler.

Anyways. Get Fighter Factory. Open it up. Click the Open button near the top left. Look for this character's .def file. It should be named the same as the character and have a notepad next to its name. Open it and click on the Sprites button near the top left/middle... I don't feel like going into detail anymore. Just use the FF's Tool (The green Arrow making a U turn) and change the size from in there.

Also, I don't think it's the Sprites. It's probably your screenpack. It will always reduce the size of an image to a specific size no matter how big you make the sprite. Look around in the spritepacks definitions file (Should be in the data folder called fight) and look for something that has 9000,0 in it and look for the word scale and change that until you get it right. I highly doubt that was clear enough for you, but oh well. I'm half asleep. --; Sorry.
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Re: HELP - Resizing character select screen
#3  May 11, 2009, 10:22:39 am
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Noctis said, May 11, 2009, 09:47:28 am
Anyways. Get Fighter Factory. Open it up. Click the Open button near the top left. Look for this character's .def file. [...]
That has nothing to do with it. And he didn't even ask about it.

snowmanboy said, May 10, 2009, 06:38:44 am
i've downloaded sffextract, but that doesn't work it just opens msdos for a sec and disappears
SFFExtract is a DOS command line program, you don't use it by double-clicking the .exe. The following is how it works, though there's definitely an easier way for a complete newcomer.
SFFExtract should've come with some readme text file ; in it, you should be able to find the command line you need to write. I don't have my Mugen files available right now so I can't check, but the command line is going to be something like "sffextract system.sff" with some options inbetween (the options you can use should be explained in the readme). Once you've figured out that command line, you have to go to DOS to use it - start menu, run..., type "cmd", in the DOS box that comes up you travel to your Mugen directory ("cd " followed by the complete path to the directory where SFFExtract is, such as C:/Files/Mugen/tools for example) and then you can type your command line.

Alternatively, some tools are a shortcut for that. With more or less success. There's MCM (Mugen Character Maker) that lets you browse through SFF files and modify them, it's probably the most beginner-friendly tool to directly see an SFF file, but it can screw it up. Still, you can give it a try to see how the SFF file is ; if you just extract the sprites you want to change, change them (resize, edit without touching the color palette...) and then put them back in the same place, it should be alright.

Now as for your exact problem. That's basically it : look around in the system.def file (simple text file you can open in any text editor you want) and the other .def files in the data folder (also plain text files). One of them will have the info on the select screen, including the size of the select boxes (don't worry, if you just look at the name of the options you'll immediately understand what they are, and there should be loads of text that tells you what is what, it's pretty easy if you just look everywhere)
you still have to change the size of the actual sprites - with MCM as I said earlier, for example. Look around with MCM in the different .sff files in the data folder (some screenpacks use different .sff files, so make sure to look around), extract the sprites you want to change (the buttons are self-explainatory), change them in any image editing tool (GIMP, Graphic Gale, Paint Shop Pro, Photoshop, even MSPaint) then insert them back (still with MCM) and save the SFF after making a backup copy of the original.

As for the reason you're having this problem, it's because you're using a screenpack made for the regular versions of Mugen ; WinMugen Plus use a resolution twice bigger. It shows in the select screen - in fact, if the size was fine for normal WinMugen, it means it wasn't a screenpack that was supposed to work with WinMugen Plus. A solution that will be really much simpler would be to go grab a screenpack that was specifically made for WinMugen Plus to begin with... Search in the release section for the tag "hi-res screenpack".
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Last Edit: May 11, 2009, 10:26:25 am by Byakko

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Re: HELP - Resizing character select screen
#4  May 11, 2009, 08:28:04 pm
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Re: HELP - Resizing character select screen
#5  May 11, 2009, 08:41:54 pm
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open the sprites for character select screen
Do you know what the character select screen is ? Send me a PM when you find which part of  the docs tell you the character select screen is in the character. That was the sprite of the actual screen itself, not the sprite of the character displayed in the select screen. You know, because he's asking why the screen is small. That's what everything else in his post was saying, if you read it.
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Re: HELP - Resizing character select screen
#6  May 11, 2009, 08:46:10 pm
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In his defense, you can open the sprites up in FF. Although, it won't work by finding the def file. You would need to find the .sff file and open it, not the .def. Then you can extract the sprites using FF.

So you can use FF, and it is easy. Just click on sprites, go to open, and then open the select screens sff file.

snowmanboy

Re: HELP - Resizing character select screen
#7  May 11, 2009, 10:01:57 pm
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Thank you very much for all the information everyone. Especially Byakko, it seems what you've said is the cure to my problem. I really appreciate the help. I don't have time right now, but tonight I will be working on it, and will get back to you guys. Thanks again, you guys rock. :)
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