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Human W.I.P.'s

New #1 August 14, 2012, 06:03:43 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Ok, I decided I go away for a while from Pocket related stuff and make other things.

Currently Working On:

Goku JUS

Progress: About 75% complete

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Seth

Progress: Complete

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Blue Mary

Progress: About 10% complete

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Last Edit: January 04, 2013, 02:45:19 pm by Human

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#2 August 14, 2012, 06:15:28 pm

I am light.

Why no Shoryuken chaining? That's pretty much the only thing that differentiates his from the others. Also, LOL KAISER WAVE. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

[DKG]

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#3 August 14, 2012, 06:46:24 pm

Hey look! It's Dat Kof Guy!

Human said, August 14, 2012, 06:03:43 pm

Dat Ass

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#4 August 14, 2012, 10:41:03 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

C.A.N said, August 14, 2012, 06:15:28 pm

Why no Shoryuken chaining? That's pretty much the only thing that differentiates his from the others. Also, LOL KAISER WAVE. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

I tested and decided that chaining Shoryuken looks good, I was afraid it will not fit CVSish gameplay style

I want to add SNK's character's moves to him so far its Krauser's and Geese's.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#5 August 14, 2012, 10:48:56 pm

I am light.

Aw, that's a shame. Could you make a vid or something so I can see what it looks like? That way I'll know more why it doesn't fit CVS style gameplay. I could come up with other SNK char moves if you want. I'll post as I think 'em up.

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#6 August 14, 2012, 11:09:06 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Human said, August 14, 2012, 10:41:03 pm

I tested and decided that chaining Shoryuken looks good, I was afraid it will not fit CVSish gameplay style

I meant that triple shoryuken will be made

Im not the making video kind of Mugen creator, also except all basics (standing, walking, jumping etc.), Basic moves, and 2 special moves there is nothing to show.

Garuda

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#7 August 14, 2012, 11:11:30 pm

There is a demente in everyone!

Wow, this is unexpeted but it's a beatifull new to me!!

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#8 August 14, 2012, 11:14:16 pm

I am light.

Wait, you're saying it will be made but it won't be put in? I'm confused now.

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Markpachi

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#9 August 14, 2012, 11:20:02 pm

LET THE SWAGGING COMMENCE

Oh my god, Seth with Kaiser wave!
This is just a suggestion but maybe you could add a Buster Wolf super?

Last Edit: August 14, 2012, 11:38:27 pm by Markpachi

DW

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#10 August 14, 2012, 11:22:57 pm

#NoRagrets

C.A.N said, August 14, 2012, 11:14:16 pm

Wait, you're saying it will be made but it won't be put in? I'm confused now.

He's saying he IS going to implement it... Before he was unsure if it would fit in with a CVS-ish style. But after testing it, he's satisfied with the results.

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#11 August 14, 2012, 11:29:09 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Thank you for explaining, DivineWolf.

I also would like to ask for new moves that he could have, but only from SNK characters.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#12 August 14, 2012, 11:31:53 pm

I am light.

Ok, first off: TRIPLE SHORYUKEN YESSS!

Second off: I kinda figured it would be moves from SNK only. I'll keep an eye out for possible moves. Thanks for explaining, Divine.

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Mr.Karate JKA

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#13 August 15, 2012, 01:39:12 am

Karate ni senshi nashi

Very good!!! I cant wait to play with him!!!

[DKG]

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#14 August 15, 2012, 03:31:57 pm

Hey look! It's Dat Kof Guy!

Human said, August 14, 2012, 11:29:09 pm

Thank you for explaining, DivineWolf.

I also would like to ask for new moves that he could have, but only from SNK characters.

Terry's Rising Tackle or Crack Shoot

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#15 August 15, 2012, 03:47:56 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

remember that those moves has to have same command as from original character, both those Terry's moves clash with Seth's original moves.

Just No Point

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#16 August 15, 2012, 03:52:06 pm

Is that a new rule for your Seth? Just asking because the Sonic Boom is QCF+P and not charge in SF4.

Markpachi

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#17 August 15, 2012, 03:53:44 pm

LET THE SWAGGING COMMENCE

Yeah, this is Mugen. You can do anything you want with it.

How about Genocide cutter And ...

Markpachi said, August 14, 2012, 11:20:02 pm

Buster Wolf

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#18 August 15, 2012, 04:14:38 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Just No Point said, August 15, 2012, 03:52:06 pm

Sonic Boom is QCF+P and not charge in SF4.

Lol, I did'nt notice that

Markpachi said, August 15, 2012, 03:53:44 pm

How about Genocide cutter

It would be Genocite Cutter vs Shoryuken, both are uppercuts and both can hit 3 times in a row.
I vote after Shoryuken as I finished that move.

Buster Wolf and Crack Shoot sounds alright

Ok, what about:
Vice - Mayhem with chaining into her Misanthrope and Deicide Slayer.
Yamazaki - Yakiire and Guillotine

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#19 August 15, 2012, 05:56:33 pm

I am light.

Yeah, the two Deicides seem like good moves for him. They involve stretching his arms about, and he can do that. Wouldn't Mayhem clash with the Tanden Engine's command?

Also: Rugal's Dark Barrier? Also, I seriously think Genocide Cutter should be in there.
Maybe he could have Geese's counter moves as well. Would it be possible for him to have semi-invisibility like Magaki?
Also, maybe a teleporting fireball for a super? Also, maybe he could have the Kyokugen users' Zantetsuken that he could juggle after. Maybe he could also have Rugal's Dead End Screamer DM. On second thought, I just had an idea. Maybe you could make two separate DEF files for him. One uses Capcom moves and the other uses SNK moves. That would allow me to have my precious Genocide Cutter and we wouldn't have to worry about moves overlapping as much.

PS: I thought of something for Raising Storm. You could possibly use Urien's taunt animation for that. You know how he punches the ground? He could use that.

Edit: Or you could hold start while selecting him for SNK moves.

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Last Edit: August 15, 2012, 06:00:35 pm by C.A.N

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#20 August 15, 2012, 06:08:49 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

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I seriously think Genocide Cutter should be in there.

Genocide Cutter or Shoryuken, I think Genocide Cutter is better and I finished Shoryuken, when I see people really want Genocide Cutter in this topic I will replace Shoryuken.

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Rugal's Dark Barrier?

1 special move from each character max.

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Wouldn't Mayhem clash with the Tanden Engine's command

Nope, I can use diffrent command.

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files for him. One uses Capcom moves and the other uses SNK moves. That would allow me to have my precious Genocide Cutter and we
wouldn't have to worry about moves overlapping as much.

I thought of that earlier, but its bad idea, there would be no reason in storyline to do this.

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PS: I thought of something for Raising Storm. You could possibly use Urien's taunt animation for that. You know how he punches the
ground? He could use that.

Thanks,

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#21 August 15, 2012, 06:11:53 pm

I am light.

Wait, you said storyline? This is Mugen here... Oh well, if you want all the moves on the same DEF or palette or whatever, your choice. I'll keep a lookout for new SNK moves he could use.

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Markpachi

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#22 August 15, 2012, 06:12:51 pm

LET THE SWAGGING COMMENCE

How about Kyo's R.E.D. Kick? Also, Iori's qcb+p attack.

DW

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#23 August 15, 2012, 07:57:48 pm

#NoRagrets

Personally, I wouldn't go with extras of the same function. Like Shouryuken/Genocide Cutter. Having 2 AA's is superfluous imo. Perhaps Rugal's wall slam move would be beffiting of Seth. Or Rugal's reflection move. I don't know the names of his moves, sorry. Aside from Reppuken and Genocide Cutter. Don't overload yourself on moves though man. Seth has enough moves as is. I understand that since you're converting him into a CVS format, it is feasible that if he were actually in that game series, he would have some moves from the SNK side as well.

A very innovative idea. Though, there is too much of a good thing. A good amount of moves may not even be used by players due to them being superfluous. You may even find yourself not using moves you yourself implemented. Just a notion you should take into consideration.

Markpachi

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#24 August 15, 2012, 08:11:26 pm

LET THE SWAGGING COMMENCE

Maybe adding a separate .def file for people who'd like only SNK moves, Capcom moves, etc.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#25 August 15, 2012, 08:20:32 pm

I am light.

Markpachi, I already suggested that. He shot it down for some reason I still don't get. Yeah, God Press or Dark Barrier would be awesome. Oh well, I can't change his mind about that.

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Markpachi

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#26 August 15, 2012, 08:26:55 pm

LET THE SWAGGING COMMENCE

Alright, my bad.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#27 August 15, 2012, 08:28:15 pm

I am light.

It's alright. I have a penchant for typing mini-walls of text that only the thread poster ever bothers to read through. I'm still seriously vouching for an SNK mode or something. It gives much more freedom for what moves he can have (GENOCIDE CUTTER).

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Just No Point

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#28 August 15, 2012, 08:50:48 pm

DivineWolf said, August 15, 2012, 07:57:48 pm

Personally, I wouldn't go with extras of the same function. Like Shouryuken/Genocide Cutter. Having 2 AA's is superfluous imo. Perhaps Rugal's wall slam move would be beffiting of Seth. Or Rugal's reflection move. I don't know the names of his moves, sorry. Aside from Reppuken and Genocide Cutter. Don't overload yourself on moves though man. Seth has enough moves as is. I understand that since you're converting him into a CVS format, it is feasible that if he were actually in that game series, he would have some moves from the SNK side as well.

A very innovative idea. Though, there is too much of a good thing. A good amount of moves may not even be used by players due to them being superfluous. You may even find yourself not using moves you yourself implemented. Just a notion you should take into consideration.

There are several Seth's anyway. If he wished he could make one for Capcom, one for SNK, and a unique one with a mix of moves but none from the other 2 Seths.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#29 August 15, 2012, 08:56:55 pm

I am light.

Ok, forget everything else, Just No Point's got the idea down. A mode with other Capcom moves, a mode with SNK moves, and a third mode with a unique moveset. If he does this, could the third mode be his SF4 moveset?

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#30 August 15, 2012, 09:06:37 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

DivineWolf said, August 15, 2012, 07:57:48 pm

Personally, I wouldn't go with extras of the same function. Like Shouryuken/Genocide Cutter. Having 2 AA's is superfluous imo. Perhaps Rugal's wall slam move would be beffiting of Seth. Or Rugal's reflection move. I don't know the names of his moves, sorry. Aside from Reppuken and Genocide Cutter. Don't overload yourself on moves though man. Seth has enough moves as is. I understand that since you're converting him into a CVS format, it is feasible that if he were actually in that game series, he would have some moves from the SNK side as well.

A very innovative idea. Though, there is too much of a good thing. A good amount of moves may not even be used by players due to them being superfluous. You may even find yourself not using moves you yourself implemented. Just a notion you should take into consideration.

I already mentioned before there is no point of two moves that work almoast the same (G. Cutter, shoryuken).

Ok, I will make hSethCap.def and hSethSNK.def, so I will have to swap Capcom's characters moves into SNK's:
Sonic Boom - Kaiser Wave
Shoryuken - Genocide Cutter
Dhalsim Heavy punch - ? (long hands)
Yoga Teleport - ?
Spinning Piledriver - Jaeiken
Dive Kick ?
Head Stomp - ?
? - Raising Storm
5 spots left, replaced moves don't have to work same as original.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#31 August 15, 2012, 09:11:54 pm

I am light.

I'm pretty sure Kaiser Wave is a super. I think Reppuken would work better as a replacement for Sonic Boom.

Dhalsim Heavy Punch replacement: Yamazaki's Snake Arm forward.
Yoga Teleport: Saiki styled teleport.
Dive Kick: Mini Dead End Screamer. (Blockable dive kick that leads to a knockdown)
Head Stomp: Dark Barrier.
Raising Storm: Wouldn't this be an SNK super already?

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#32 August 15, 2012, 09:13:09 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

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Raising Storm: Wouldn't this be an SNK super already?

I need 1 super move from Capcom for SethCap

Btw. Give me ideas for SNK voices.

Markpachi

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#33 August 15, 2012, 09:14:48 pm

LET THE SWAGGING COMMENCE

How about Midnight Bliss?

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#34 August 15, 2012, 09:14:59 pm

I am light.

Raising Storm is an SNK super. Geese uses it. I think he could do well with having Aegis Reflector or something.

Edit: Oh god, I'm dense. Sorry about that. I thought that was all going to the SNK mode.

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Markpachi

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#35 August 15, 2012, 09:16:02 pm

LET THE SWAGGING COMMENCE

Human said, August 15, 2012, 09:13:09 pm

Btw. Give me ideas for SNK voices.

You could always use your voice.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#36 August 15, 2012, 09:17:27 pm

I am light.

Maybe he could be playing recordings of their voices? For example, you could take their voices and then filter it a bit in Audacity or something. Jeez, this is getting awfully ambitious. Also, I'm perfectly willing to beta test this when it gets there. Just lemme know and send it to me when you're ready.

Edit: You could justify the distorted recordings by saying that NESTS stole Bison's plans for these duplicate bodies and haven't given them their own voices yet, therefore they play recordings from the original users of the attacks.

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#37 August 15, 2012, 09:24:14 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Markpachi said, August 15, 2012, 09:16:02 pm

You could always use your voice.

Lol, my voice is something between Joe Higashi and Terry Bogard, I can't make it sound badassssss.

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You could justify the distorted recordings by saying that NESTS stole Bison's plans for these duplicate bodies and haven't given them their own voices yet, therefore they play recordings from the original users of the attacks.

Interesting, NESTS create own artificial life form fighter, but he needs some good name, Horus?

Markpachi

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#38 August 15, 2012, 09:25:29 pm

LET THE SWAGGING COMMENCE

Clone Seth.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#39 August 15, 2012, 09:25:29 pm

I am light.

I was thinking of something. Seth's name was originally going to be Cain, but Capcom changed it to Seth as a tribute to Seth Killian. Maybe it could be Cain. I'll edit or repost when I think of something better.

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#40 August 15, 2012, 09:47:08 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Seth and Horus were enemies in Egypt believes, I think it fits best.

DW

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#41 August 15, 2012, 10:00:32 pm

#NoRagrets

Just No Point said, August 15, 2012, 08:50:48 pm

There are several Seth's anyway. If he wished he could make one for Capcom, one for SNK, and a unique one with a mix of moves but none from the other 2 Seths.

Yeah, he could, but that's entirely up to him. Personally, I wouldn't. It's easy to suggest for someone to implement tons of moves and modes, while it's another thing to be on the recieving end on all those suggestions. I'd just go for a unique blend of Cap/SNK moves, instead of making 3 different modes. That's a lot of work I ain't willing to do lol. But if he wants to, go for it.

Markpachi said, August 15, 2012, 09:14:48 pm

How about Midnight Bliss?

You just won. This man deserves a reward.

C.A.N said, August 15, 2012, 09:25:29 pm

I was thinking of something. Seth's name was originally going to be Cain, but Capcom changed it to Seth as a tribute to Seth Killian. Maybe it could be Cain. I'll edit or repost when I think of something better.

This however...no...

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#42 August 15, 2012, 10:01:13 pm

I am light.

Ah, I get it now. Any plans for a special intro between the two?

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

TheSnackist

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#43 August 15, 2012, 10:21:10 pm

I'm so confused at this point... I say make him how YOU want, with the moveset you'll be happy with, and leave it at that. Don't add more work for yourself just cause a couple people think you should. An end MUGEN product you're happy with is what is really important.

DW

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#44 August 15, 2012, 10:27:35 pm

#NoRagrets

TheSnackist said, August 15, 2012, 10:21:10 pm

I'm so confused at this point... I say make him how YOU want, with the moveset you'll be happy with, and leave it at that. Don't add more work for yourself just cause a couple people think you should. An end MUGEN product you're happy with is what is really important.

The Fisher King

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#45 August 15, 2012, 10:35:12 pm

Just... Ask the question

A Seth with his SF4 moveset and just that would be just enough IMO

Small portraits here
Palettes here

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#46 August 17, 2012, 07:32:55 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arBduthFe3s

Does anybody have effect that looks like that black ball?

Markpachi

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#47 August 17, 2012, 08:19:31 pm

LET THE SWAGGING COMMENCE

Well, you could use Benimaru's thunder ball fx then recolor it, but i'm not sure if it'll work.

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#48 August 17, 2012, 09:58:56 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Also any fitting wind effects? I really need that huge wind explosion at end.

Garuda

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#49 August 17, 2012, 10:38:19 pm

There is a demente in everyone!

Cvs Joe cvs chang garou grant garou jenet real bout alfred...

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#50 August 22, 2012, 10:53:57 am

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

None of them have the effect Im looking for :/

Latest screenshot, spinning piledriver.

Garuda

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#51 August 22, 2012, 03:06:04 pm

There is a demente in everyone!

what kind of FX are you looking for?

Fabry Taz

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#52 August 22, 2012, 04:07:58 pm

Staaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrssssssssss !

if I remember correctly, the seth of chuchoryu this was a spark of what you are looking for

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#53 August 22, 2012, 04:21:31 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

like those winds comming from Ogre, I asked chuchoryu, but he said I can take them when he finish Ogre, which can take a lot of time.

Fabry Taz

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#54 August 22, 2012, 05:27:33 pm

Staaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrssssssssss !

no I was talking about the black ball ... in seth of chuchoryu

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#55 August 22, 2012, 06:13:36 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

I was replying Garuda, but I see you know better what I want Fabry Taz

The one you mentioned have been already solved Taz.

DW

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#56 August 22, 2012, 06:18:13 pm

#NoRagrets

Human said, August 22, 2012, 04:21:31 pm

like those winds comming from Ogre, I asked chuchoryu, but he said I can take them when he finish Ogre, which can take a lot of time.

Why...? This doesn't make any sense to me... Why do you have to wait for him to complete a char, just to get some FX from it/him...? Seems like a very unreasonable stipulation. You're not asking for the char, just some FX from the char. *shrugs* Well, to each his own. I don't understand, but w/e.

Last Edit: August 22, 2012, 06:24:24 pm by DivineWolf

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#57 August 22, 2012, 06:21:43 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

I told him the same :/

Fabry Taz

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#58 August 22, 2012, 06:43:57 pm

Staaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrssssssssss !

test .... these are the ones I used for my johnny cage : http://www.mediafire.com/?efjfl7dkc3336tm

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#59 August 22, 2012, 06:47:38 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Haha thank you, looks good, I will test it.

I see I will have to turn them Higher Resolution.

Fabry Taz

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#60 August 22, 2012, 07:01:23 pm

Staaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrssssssssss !

is a pleasure to help out a friend

....I can not wait to use this seth

Posted: August 22, 2012, 07:15:11 pm
this move also put it?

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#61 August 25, 2012, 12:12:18 am

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Well, Seth's progress is pretty high and I must wait for some effects, so I started another CVS WIP, Blue Mary!
Not much info about her now, check first post.

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Blue Mary (CVS)

Progress: About 10% complete

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Xenomic

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#62 August 25, 2012, 12:25:38 am

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

Hmm...a Blue Mary with ze jacket eh? Curious as to how this'll turn out...will her moves be based on her KOF or Fatal Fury incarnation? Or are both the same? I don't know since I never played Fatal Fury...

To my site: http://xenomic.freehostia.com/

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#63 August 25, 2012, 12:35:22 am

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

I'll just take what is cool from all her appearances, so its Mixed.

DW

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#64 August 25, 2012, 02:14:55 am

#NoRagrets

I don't know much about Blue Mary, but those sprites look really nice. I guess I'll learn more about her as time goes on eh?

Good luck with her. Looking forward to her progress.

Garuda

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#65 August 25, 2012, 09:41:31 am

There is a demente in everyone!

Human you rock!! Good choince of chars, I really dig Blue Mary with his RB sprites and PotS stile!!

Thank you for your hard work!

For the wind FX u are looking for: just look into Arcueid by Rajaa and you will find what u need... Opensource!

Fabry Taz

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#66 August 25, 2012, 11:42:49 am

Staaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrssssssssss !

I advise you not to have too many wip ... that should finish the first one and then the next steps so the work is more homogeneous

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#67 August 25, 2012, 12:00:08 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

I know, but when Im finishing Seth, I wait for Blue Mary's Colour separation

So I don't waste time waiting and doing nothing.

Fabry Taz

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#68 August 25, 2012, 02:38:48 pm

Staaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrssssssssss !

Girard

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#69 August 25, 2012, 06:19:33 pm

Professional Procrastinator

Well since you announced your working on Blue Mary and mentioned the color separation figured I'd post the template for palettes.
everything you wanted separated plus her eyes, the lightest color of her hair and skin from the belt buckle lightest color and jacket buttons, and her dog so it doesn't share colors with her skin. the effects aren't organized in the Color table as i didn't know if you were gonna use the same effects or not plus i dislike organizing effect colors.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#70 August 25, 2012, 06:23:46 pm

I am light.

Hm, could you let me know when you get the FX on Seth and everything settled? I want to try my hand at beta testing him.

I'm also curious how his "Horus" mode calls his attacks, distorted recordings? Lemme know.

MY YOUTUBE || MY TUMBLR

Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#71 August 25, 2012, 06:41:20 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Girard said, August 25, 2012, 06:19:33 pm

the effects aren't organized in the Color table as i didn't know if you were gonna use the same effects or not plus i dislike organizing effect colors./BlueMaryTemplate.png[/img]

Its CVS Blue Mary, she will use High Res effects only, also I don't like idea of "palleting" fx too. Thank you

C.A.N said, August 25, 2012, 06:23:46 pm

Hm, could you let me know when you get the FX on Seth and everything settled? I want to try my hand at beta testing him. I'm also curious how his "Horus" mode calls his attacks, distorted recordings? Lemme know.

Hah, I forgot to mention I won't make "Horus" mode, maybe in future update or something, sorry.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#72 August 25, 2012, 06:50:40 pm

I am light.

Gah, crap. I hope you can get around to it, I was looking forward to seeing what you put into it. Please do that in a future update, I was also curious what custom interaction you'd put between the two modes. After all, Jmorphman released his Chun-Li's Shadow Lady mode in an update, you could easily do the same

Any word on me beta testing? I won't have access to Mugen 'till around tomorrow, so just lemme know if it's possible.

MY YOUTUBE || MY TUMBLR

Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#73 November 01, 2012, 10:30:36 am

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Okay, I was really busy last 2 months and could not make any progress due to no time, but I started 2 days ago again and now:
- Tandem Storm Finished!
- Tanden Typhoon Finished!

Seth will not be accurate, as I can't take much time into mechanics details, but when you think of it its conversion from SF4 to CVS so who cares

All that is left to do is Tandem Stream, teleporting, Tandem Engine, throw and parrying.

Last Edit: November 01, 2012, 10:36:04 am by Human

Markpachi

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#74 November 01, 2012, 10:38:43 am

LET THE SWAGGING COMMENCE

Yeah! Keep up the good work Human!

Gogngos

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#75 November 01, 2012, 10:45:22 am

I am truly excited for your progress,
Definitely looking forward to this character!

Garuda

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#76 November 01, 2012, 03:38:30 pm

There is a demente in everyone!

Very nice to hear you are back on work!
About Mary???

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#77 November 01, 2012, 03:57:29 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Im waiting for her colour separation to be finished.

Seth: Throw almoast done, 4 things to go.

The Real Niko

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#78 November 01, 2012, 04:00:38 pm

The BadPixelMan

Am I stupid? How the hell did I never notice these WIPs? AHMIGAWD is that Blue Mary with her Jacket still on? Yes PLZ.

Seth is cool and all, but is he going to be a huge wang towards none projectile users like in SF4?

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#79 November 01, 2012, 04:07:23 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

It seems so, its fault of his moves, not my work.
Seth can throw projectiles (Sonicboom), has good defensive move (Shoryuken) and his arms extend.
Disadventage of Seth in CVS is that if you use Dodge/Roll and avoid one of his slower attacks (which he has plenty) you can really kick his ass in few succesful attacks.

The Real Niko

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#80 November 01, 2012, 04:13:19 pm

The BadPixelMan

Yeah, lack of any dodge roll in his origin game made him a ghetto KoF Boss wannabe. If you mentioned it I missed it, but is he getting his yoga teleport?

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#81 November 01, 2012, 04:23:49 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

I want him to have all his moves, so yes it will be included, I still didnt made the sprites, but all I have to do is edit Gill's sprites and find suitable effects for it

The Real Niko

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#82 November 01, 2012, 04:26:43 pm

The BadPixelMan

White out the sprite, fade out, add some kind of effect. There ya go.

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#83 November 01, 2012, 08:44:47 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

anybody brave enough to edit few Gill/Urien's sprites to look like Seth's?

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#84 November 01, 2012, 11:29:45 pm

I am light.

OHMYGODSETHISN'TDEAD! I've come to realize how far things have come in the last two months of Human not working on Seth. I await the finished project, bro!

MY YOUTUBE || MY TUMBLR

Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Ness

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#85 November 02, 2012, 12:43:26 am

Best In The World

WinMugen or 1.0. or both?

http://www.youtube.com/user/NessTheAvatar?feature=mhee | Skype: NessTheAvatar

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#86 November 03, 2012, 01:29:23 am

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

There is so much fucking with Tandem Stream p1statenos and p2statenos to make it look a little like original :/
At least effects are promising

Ness - The Avatar said, November 02, 2012, 12:43:26 am

WinMugen or 1.0. or both?

I think both, I did not tested it on OldMugen yet, as I dont use it any more.

Froz

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#87 November 03, 2012, 01:33:38 am

ooh.. a seth in the works... is there anything i can assist you? (palettes, sprites, FX)

Good luck with this project!

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s [SETH Pallete Template]

#88 November 03, 2012, 01:49:49 am

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Haha, sure, I just relized I have not released Pallete template yet

and I lack of palletes:

This pallete is little not organised (not made by me) so 3 colours are not shown on this image, my advise is to just set their colours same as the most similiar other colour. If you make mistake I can always fix your palletes.

Froz

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#89 November 03, 2012, 02:28:58 am

I made 4 so far, although i'm not to fond of that palette the creator made (a color slot for just ONE PIXEL?!), i might separate or just simply order them to a much more sane and comfortable palette making.

Black, Gold, Martian/little green man, CVS Approach.

Trinitronity

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#90 November 03, 2012, 08:21:26 am

Back to the Beginnings
Online

The CvS approach totally needs to be the first pal.

I make characters RP-styled (Current WIP: Marisa):
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/marisarp-150600.0.html
Touhou database (by Ryouchi):
http://mugenfreeforall.com/index.php?/topic/8257-touhou-project/

bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#91 November 03, 2012, 10:37:02 am

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

But CVS is already made
CVS, Yellow and Red

I love "Black", its in

also I will switch Yellow with Gold

Trinitronity

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#92 November 03, 2012, 01:50:07 pm

Back to the Beginnings
Online

Whoops.

bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

Mr.Karate JKA

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#93 November 03, 2012, 03:10:09 pm

Karate ni senshi nashi

Seth looks very promissing! Good luck with him!!!

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#94 November 04, 2012, 01:10:25 am

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Good day today, I finished throw and Tandem Stream, "pics or didnt happend"? Here:

Lord Kain

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#95 November 04, 2012, 01:12:01 am

Vae Victus!

Seth looks fucking epic, cant wait to play as him!

"Given the choice; whether to rule a corrupt and failing empire or to challenge the Fates for another throw a better throw against one's destiny... what was a king to do?

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#96 November 04, 2012, 02:39:18 am

I am light.

Is he supposed to have the red afterimage all the way through Tanden Stream? I might just be talking from a combination of SF4 experience and a lack of CvS experience, so don't pay that thought too much mind.

MY YOUTUBE || MY TUMBLR

Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Froz

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#97 November 04, 2012, 02:44:53 am

It's from the CVS system (most notable in the C-Groove): Transparent (no color) Afterimage for LVL1, Blue Afterimages for LVL2 and Red AI's for LVL3.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#98 November 04, 2012, 02:47:59 am

I am light.

I've too many games I need to get my hands on. Thanks for clearing that up.

MY YOUTUBE || MY TUMBLR

Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#99 November 04, 2012, 11:34:45 am

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Red After Image is part of CVS gameplay, SF4 didnt had any After Images, at least none ive seen.

Im considering making opponent hit the screen, but Im not sure that I will be able to do such thing, is there any character with already made code with something similiar?

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#100 November 04, 2012, 03:19:04 pm

I am light.

Mike Obrecht's Eyedol has a finisher that makes P2 hit the screen. It's hosted at Randomselect if you want to check it out.

MY YOUTUBE || MY TUMBLR

Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Astro!

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#101 November 04, 2012, 04:42:58 pm

One of Dcat's Ninja Turtles (I think Mike, or maybe all of them) have a throw that makes the opponent hit the screen.

Ness

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#102 November 27, 2012, 03:52:10 am

Best In The World

Reference Buckus's Rash beta, it has an intro where he kicks a big minion against the screen, right there be your winner!

http://www.youtube.com/user/NessTheAvatar?feature=mhee | Skype: NessTheAvatar

O Ilusionista

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#103 November 27, 2012, 04:19:21 am

11 years of MFG and counting :)

Human said, November 04, 2012, 11:34:45 am

Red After Image is part of CVS gameplay, SF4 didnt had any After Images, at least none ive seen.

Im considering making opponent hit the screen, but Im not sure that I will be able to do such thing, is there any character with already made code with something similiar?

Old PDC chars has it (thought it wont't work on Mugen 1.0), My Goliath and MindLess ones (you just need to revert the animations back at the end) and many others
Its like to modify the scale of the char, nothing too hard to do.

Beta avaliable: http://brazilmugenteam.com/avengers/

DW

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#104 November 27, 2012, 05:00:31 pm

#NoRagrets

Astro! said, November 04, 2012, 04:42:58 pm

One of Dcat's Ninja Turtles (I think Mike, or maybe all of them) have a throw that makes the opponent hit the screen.

^This. Though it's not just Mikey, all his Turtles have that arcade throw. I'm sure that'd be very helpful to reference for Tandrem Stream where they hit the screen.

Ness

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#105 November 27, 2012, 10:32:03 pm

Best In The World

P.o.t.s. has a pull effect for his Ryu's shinkuu tatsumaki, maybe reference that, change the velocities?

http://www.youtube.com/user/NessTheAvatar?feature=mhee | Skype: NessTheAvatar

hairline733

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#106 November 29, 2012, 05:36:44 pm

sttarree into the face of death!!

imm too excited for this guy to be completed!!

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#107 December 18, 2012, 09:44:24 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Soo, long time no post.

I completed all Seth EX moves and fixed some bugs lately, not much to say

hairline733

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#108 December 18, 2012, 09:48:23 pm

sttarree into the face of death!!

Any possible release date?? Im itching for this guy!!

DW

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#109 December 18, 2012, 09:52:12 pm

#NoRagrets

I haven't forgotten about you mang. Good to hear you're moving things along with Seth. Looking foward to some Blue Mary progress in the future as well. One thing I wanted to note, just to let you know if you haven't done so already. Be sure to use my KFM's most up to date version for the template. You started these projects some time ago and I've updated KFM since then with some important system updates. It's all been ironed out now. Nothing too heavy, but important enough to where things needed to be fixed. I've noted the updates and all in the code, so, you'll know what's what.

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#110 December 18, 2012, 09:54:58 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

if its System.cns then no problem

DW

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#111 December 18, 2012, 10:02:30 pm

#NoRagrets

Essentially, yes. Though, there's also been changes to the CMD, because of the way projectiles are handled with my chars. The main aspects with the updates are...

-Adv Guard gone(it was pretty buggy :p)
-Z Counter special/super cancels removed
-hit/juggle count variables tweaked/updated
-targetbinding coding to prevent p2 from sinking below ground level tweaked/updated
-projectiles all have keyctrl=1 now, with the extra coding added to the cmd for them as well

So yeah, it's mainly system.cns/cmd that was the focus of the updates.

Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 10:17:09 pm by DivineWolf

Lord Kain

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#112 December 18, 2012, 10:07:50 pm

Vae Victus!

Human said, December 18, 2012, 09:44:24 pm

Soo, long time no post.

I completed all Seth EX moves and fixed some bugs lately, not much to say

so... are we expecting a release soon? sorry just asking, hope you dont mind

"Given the choice; whether to rule a corrupt and failing empire or to challenge the Fates for another throw a better throw against one's destiny... what was a king to do?

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#113 December 18, 2012, 10:29:05 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

DivineWolf said, December 18, 2012, 10:02:30 pm

Thanks

Lord Kain said, December 18, 2012, 10:07:50 pm

Human said, December 18, 2012, 09:44:24 pm

I don't mind at all.

Overall progress should be about 90%-95%, I just need to make Tandem Teleport, convert Dcat's hit screen code to Tandem Stream and make new sprites for it.

I might say next week, christmas is soon so you can be sure it will be done soon.

hairline733

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#114 December 18, 2012, 10:34:20 pm

sttarree into the face of death!!

Yeeeessss!!! This is betyer than the new jordans im getting! (Sneak peek)

DW

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#115 December 18, 2012, 10:56:15 pm

#NoRagrets

Human said, December 18, 2012, 10:29:05 pm

Thanks

No problem. If you have any questions or anything about the updates, shoot me a PM. Along with any testing as well. I remember testing him out before a while back when you sent him to me. He was very solid.

BIG BOSS

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#116 December 19, 2012, 12:16:21 am

Screenpack Maker EX

Please hook us up with that mugen present.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#117 December 19, 2012, 12:24:34 am

I am light.

I can't wait for the pleasure of testing Seth out. I hope he's as awesome as my expectations are.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Last Edit: December 19, 2012, 05:29:33 am by Madam CanCan

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#118 December 19, 2012, 05:15:41 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Ok Dcat's screen splater code works perfectly, yay

Madam CanCan said, December 19, 2012, 12:24:34 am

I can't wait for the pleasure of testing Seth out. I hope he's as awesome as my expectations are.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Please tell me he'll have the English voices.

Im very negative subjective about my creations, my Seth is good, but not awesome

So far he has only Jap voice, I doubt I will make English, maybe someone will make patch for him.

BIG BOSS said, December 19, 2012, 12:16:21 am

Please hook us up with that mugen present.

Christmas gift? I'll try my best

Can someone tell how many people are making CVS Gouken (CVSNB)? Blue Mary sprites are not separated so far, so Im looking around for future wips.

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#119 December 19, 2012, 05:16:20 pm

I am light.

Infinite's making a Gouken as of now using those sprites and Sean Altly's going to have him in CvtW, but that's about it.

Human said, December 19, 2012, 05:15:41 pm

So far he has only Jap voice, I doubt I will make English, maybe someone will make patch for him.

Dern it, his English voice is great.

MY YOUTUBE || MY TUMBLR

Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Last Edit: December 19, 2012, 05:20:19 pm by Madam CanCan

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#120 December 19, 2012, 05:24:38 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Madam CanCan said, December 19, 2012, 05:16:20 pm

Infinite's making a Gouken as of now using those sprites and Sean Altly's going to have him in CvtW, but that's about it.
Human said, December 19, 2012, 05:15:41 pm
So far he has only Jap voice, I doubt I will make English, maybe someone will make patch for him.
Dern it, his English voice is great.

Hmm, I'll think about CVS Gouken and English voice

I was hoping that some Veteran will make CVS Gouken, I was mostly hoping for Jmorphman to make him, but well...

Xan

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#121 December 19, 2012, 05:26:20 pm

I am light.

Human said, December 19, 2012, 05:24:38 pm

Hmm, I'll think about CVS Gouken and English voice

My thoughts on you possibly making Gouken:

My thoughts on you considering English voice:

Human said, December 19, 2012, 05:24:38 pm

I was mostly hoping for Jmorphman to make him, but well...

Even if he will, that won't be for a while. He's recently recovered from a broken laptop and already wants to code Rolento then Benimaru. It'll be a while for him to consider Gouken, especially considering all the chars he's made were in CvS2.

MY YOUTUBE || MY TUMBLR

Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm

Xan is always lovable

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am

Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Last Edit: December 19, 2012, 05:31:04 pm by Madam CanCan

Calhoun Tubbs87

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#122 December 19, 2012, 05:35:42 pm

I wrote a song about it.

This is gonna be a great character! Good luck!

Trinitronity

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#123 December 19, 2012, 08:48:46 pm

Back to the Beginnings
Online

Madam CanCan said, December 19, 2012, 05:26:20 pm

Even if he will, that won't be for a while. He's recently recovered from a broken laptop and already wants to code Rolento

Hell YEAH!

bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

TRUEMicah

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#124 December 20, 2012, 08:37:04 am

Smile, you're still alive. :)

BIG BOSS said, December 19, 2012, 12:16:21 am

Please hook us up with that mugen present.

Agreeing with Da' Boss.

Human

Re: Human W.I.P.'s

#125 December 23, 2012, 03:25:15 pm

- Might get annyoing from time to time.

Well, Seth is pretty much complete, all I need is better effects for Tandem Storm, something CVS like,
Im talking about that black ball:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EenFzruRyUQ
0:50s