Iced said, April 25, 2012, 10:40:53 amAbout why american or very visible worldwide, why would I post only news around my country? No one would care about them enough to talk and america has such a heavy media covering that by statistics alone they are more likely to have fun or weird newspieces.So, you are indeed targeting the american newspieces. Atheists. The VERY vocal 14%Wouldn't you, just for the sake of the concept of democracy, OR NUMBERS at least, if you will, just stop targeting believers? Believers of any kind outnumber non believers 5~6 to 1. It's like coming to a Fighting game forum to say Fighting games suck. Sure, there are a couple of guys like Edward who are just here for the lolis, but that's just plain asking for trouble on purpose.Can't you just stop being a troll? PLEASE?Sure only navets is willing to accept and fight about how this is pushing his buttons, but I'm sure there's a large sector of the population (worldwide, statistically around 86%) that find these attacks unsettling, but seing how relentless you are in these attacks just won't stand up to you for the sheer pointlessness of trying to change your opinion?As opposed to what Rajaa says, nobody is changing nobody's mind here, and yet, it's a point of conflict that should be avoided altogether in a videogame hobby forum. Seriously. Valodim and Rajaa don't want to talk about abortion, and we're all ok with that, but Iced wants to target christians twice a week and we have to put up with it? Uh, no thank you.
Rajaa said, April 25, 2012, 08:53:49 amHow else is he supposed to enlighten people on the idiocy of religion and God?fuck off
Because they believe in opposing things that are a meaningful part of their lives, and because atheists are too angry to just let go.
Jango said, April 25, 2012, 10:44:01 amIced is obsolete in comparison to ChristwireIs that a troll website, like that one forum I visited some months ago? Please tell me it's a parody website.
walt said, April 25, 2012, 04:13:39 pmBecause they believe in opposing things that are a meaningful part of their lives, and because atheists are too angry to just let go.Goes both ways my friend.
Atheists and Christians do get along, it happens every day without any problems at all. It's just that some people get emotionally hurt by hearing how stupid their affiliation is/can be.
Rajaa Wouldn't you, just for the sake of the concept of democracy, OR NUMBERS at least, if you will, just stop targeting believers? Believers of any kind outnumber non believers 5~6 to 1. It's like coming to a Fighting game forum to say Fighting games suck. Sure, there are a couple of guys like Edward who are just here for the lolis, but that's just plain asking for trouble on purpose.Can't you just stop being a troll? PLEASE?
IcedWouldn't you, just for the sake of the concept of democracy, OR NUMBERS at least, if you will, just stop targeting believers? Believers of any kind outnumber non believers 5~6 to 1. It's like coming to a Fighting game forum to say Fighting games suck. Sure, there are a couple of guys like Edward who are just here for the lolis, but that's just plain asking for trouble on purpose.Can't you just stop being a troll? PLEASE?
walt said, April 25, 2012, 04:57:16 pmBelievers of any kind outnumber non believers 5~6 to 1.I believe those are old numbers.
Walt Wouldn't you, just for the sake of the concept of dignity, OR INTELLIGENCE at least, if you will, just stop defending stupidity? Nonbelievers' intelligence of any kind outnumber believers' intelligence 5~6 to 1. It's like coming to a Fighting game forum to say Fighting games suck. Sure, there are a couple of guys like Edward who are just here for the lolis, but that's just plain asking for trouble on purpose.Can't you just stop being a troll? PLEASE?
Well, I just changed a few words that called nonbelievers insignificant so that those same changed words would call believers stupid. So, if I'm being a douchebag, then so are you.Also, haven't been targeting believers and "trolling." I just post in threads that concern such things. My posts defend nonbelievers because that's where I side. If that's trolling, then your whole post history is trolling.
i just went through recent all that's left pages searching "iced" so it would highlight all the horrible threads iced makes against believers and he didn't even have many
I apologize for the gross overgeneralization. I counted only 5 threads by Iced directed towards religion up until page 7, dating back to Mid January months ago.So it's more like twice a month, or something.
I don't think Iced is being a troll, sure he has a bias against religion but I don't think that's driving him to post the articles. He just sees something some dumb person does and posts it. Does he gravitate towards religious stories? Yeah. But I think we're all grown up enough to not let stories of things dumb people do, sometimes in the name of religion, effect us.
when he posts about people doing dumb things about religion it's usually christianity and not atheism because there are more christians in the world than atheists and because atheism isn't anywhere as organized as christianity is.
Titiln said, April 25, 2012, 05:48:26 pmwhen he posts about people doing dumb things about religion it's usually christianity and not atheism because there are more christians in the world than atheists and because atheism isn't anywhere as organized as christianity is.he should be posting about muslims then
walt said, April 25, 2012, 04:07:47 pmIced said, April 25, 2012, 10:40:53 amAbout why american or very visible worldwide, why would I post only news around my country? No one would care about them enough to talk and america has such a heavy media covering that by statistics alone they are more likely to have fun or weird newspieces.So, you are indeed targeting the american newspieces. Atheists. The VERY vocal 14%Wouldn't you, just for the sake of the concept of democracy, OR NUMBERS at least, if you will, just stop targeting believers? Believers of any kind outnumber non believers 5~6 to 1. It's like coming to a Fighting game forum to say Fighting games suck. Sure, there are a couple of guys like Edward who are just here for the lolis, but that's just plain asking for trouble on purpose.Can't you just stop being a troll? PLEASE?Sure only navets is willing to accept and fight about how this is pushing his buttons, but I'm sure there's a large sector of the population (worldwide, statistically around 86%) that find these attacks unsettling, but seing how relentless you are in these attacks just won't stand up to you for the sheer pointlessness of trying to change your opinion?As opposed to what Rajaa says, nobody is changing nobody's mind here, and yet, it's a point of conflict that should be avoided altogether in a videogame hobby forum. Seriously. Valodim and Rajaa don't want to talk about abortion, and we're all ok with that, but Iced wants to target christians twice a week and we have to put up with it? Uh, no thank you.Dear Walt. Ahahahahah. Seriously?It doesnt help that you paint as trolling anything that annoys you, it doesnt help that your post sums up to "there are more of us so you all should shush because we will get angry." (Minorities shouldnt be heard, gotcha.)It doesnt help that you think that anything in the world that doesnt paint something you associate with in a positive light is so very obviously a trolling attempt or a personal attack at you that somehow everyone else is too blind to notice.Complaining about me using american newsfeeds to select strange threads is weird, if you dont like them, you can eff off and not post on any of them.Its not like atheists are organized or have a clubhouse where the church of atheism and the nega-pope releases a mandate announcing a piss on a bible marathon every other week.Dubbing as a troll someone you dont like is old hat. Easier to discard someone completely than to just think about what they say.Shit I think I read these tactics before, it was Walt the hollier than thou versus titiln the barbarian back then.
Iced said, March 07, 2012, 04:00:16 amOh and i have kfm now accusing me of being a ringmaster of making people argue because i love drama.I will gladly join that fellow's opinion.
I personally do not reply to Iced's religious troll topics because by only having the atheists post in there paints them as the intolerant assholes they really are.
[E] said, April 25, 2012, 06:08:21 pmI personally do not reply to Iced's religious troll topics because by only having the atheists post in there paints them as the intolerant assholes they really are.I'm an atheist, and quite frankly, I can't recall doing that, you're being biased against atheists just as certain atheists here are being biased against religious people christians.
Iced said, April 25, 2012, 05:55:39 pmIt doesnt help that you paint as trolling anything that annoys you, it doesnt help that your post sums up to "there are more of us so you all should shush because we will get angry." (Minorities shouldnt be heard, gotcha.)NO, BUT SERIOUSLY, FUCK FIGHTING GAMES MAN. This is top priority stuff that should be addressed in a fighting game forum! Totally.Iced said, April 25, 2012, 05:55:39 pmIt doesnt help that you think that anything in the world that doesnt paint something you associate with in a positive light is so very obviously a trolling attempt or a personal attack at you that somehow everyone else is too blind to notice.I know many things are wrong about blind faith, or man made institutions, but the constant attacks are just too much. Too much, too often, too tiring. First it was me, then it was somebody else, now it's Navets. We grow tired of this. Why do you choose to ignore my argument about keeping the peace, avoiding conflict by sheer numbers? Isn't your duty as administrator of this board to preserve a healthy environment for people to interact? QuoteComplaining about me using american newsfeeds to select strange threads is weird, if you dont like them, you can eff off and not post on any of them.I try not to man, read your threads. I avoid them like the plague.QuoteIts not like atheists are organized or have a clubhouse where the church of atheism and the nega-pope releases a mandate announcing a piss on a bible marathon every other week.You can postulate yourself.QuoteDubbing as a troll someone you dont like is old hat. Easier to discard someone completely than to just think about what they say.This isn't even up for debate here. You're just criticizing stuff you dislike (religion in general, christians in particular) the regular MFG Atheist Club supports you, the rest of us get offended and try to ingore it, until someone speaks up and the cycle starts over and over again every few months. I've seen enough to know this, and I'll keep confronting the issue every few months until you realize that if this is your best attempt to keep this section active (i.e. conflict) then you are wrong. QuoteShit I think I read these tactics before, it was Walt the hollier than thou versus titiln the barbarian back then.Reveal your perceptions of said tactics, I only do what I always do - put myself out there, trying to expose ideas I believe top be wrong based on what's closest to cultural universals (things that by principle can't be denied, or where the most people will win). Tough shit if you don't like it, man.
Have fun trying to scour jmorphman latest posts to call him out some more and trying to find more things to bitch about endlessly.Oops, I mean, you are the majority so others should shut up unless they want trouble, it worked great for the blacks and the faggots.Edit: oh an actual reply, and its just walt trying to be hollier than thou again. Five threads in five months is like , constant persecution man, thrive on conflict and drama. It totally cuts everyone else from posting anything they want, ever.All the other stuff i post? bah ignore it, walt only cares about those that pertains to him specifically.Its not like walt is just trying to find things to get worked up about. Like when he tried to start an argument with jmorphman over dimples .
walt said, April 25, 2012, 06:20:15 pmthe rest of us get offended and try to ingore itSpeak for yourself. I haven't been offended by any of his articles because they're not really offensive.And I doubt that many other people are offended either.
Why don't you just admit that you do it, Iced? WHY DON'T YOU JUST ADMIT YOU DO ITWhat kind of tyrant denies his tyranny?
Iced said, April 25, 2012, 06:26:55 pmFive threads in five months is like , constant persecution man, thrive on conflict and drama. These are just the Religion ones.http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=140665.0 March 19, 2012http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=138152.0 January 25, 2012 Shitfesthttp://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=138053.0 January 23, 2012http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=137869.0 January 17, 2012http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=137386.0 December 24, 2011http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=136330.0 November 28, 2011http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=136204.0 November 23, 2011 Kind ofThen there's the conflict and drama about publically humilliating Jesuszilla at the begining of March.That leaves us with only a 1 month dryspell.I post documented facts so people don't say I'm posting opinions. Holier than thou baby :dwi:QuoteAll the other stuff i post? bah ignore itAgain, I try.Quotewalt only cares about those that pertains to him specifically.Its not like walt is just trying to find things to get worked up about. Like when he tried to start an argument with jmorphman over dimples .Start an argument? Get your facts straight. Started as a joke, and it ended in a joke. Grasping straws, etc.
Iced said, April 25, 2012, 06:26:55 pmHave fun trying to scour jmorphman latest posts to call him out some more and trying to find more things to bitch about endlessly.Oops, I mean, you are the majority so others should shut up unless they want trouble, it worked great for the blacks and the faggots.You're comparing your constant hate attacks to the fight for the rights of the blacks to vote, or the gays to marry? Seriously? You already have all the rights you need to do anything, the law even protects you while doing stupid shit like unblessing highways with unholy water, as long as you don't physically assault anybody. Who is bitching endlessly now?
i like how you call out sbz trying to get into a shit fest as persecution of christians.I also enjoy how you are still trying to get the jz thing as if it was anything more than the expected outcome of his own actions.You call the storm short movie a religious thread.The birthday of isaac newton as being a religious thread( OH NO ATHEISTS LIKE ISAAC NEWTON) .I guess anything that isnt for religious people is against them. You poor persecuted person.Grow up , get your big girl panties and stop being a biased tool. if you want you can also leave, while you try to paint me as being someone that only contributes with arguments, i have been doing more stuff for the community than you have. For a long mile.So you could stop being buttfrustated, be productive or go home and be a family man.Whining about how people are talking about religion and they shouldnt unless they want "trouble" is just short sighted.
Iced said, April 25, 2012, 06:49:21 pmif you want you can also leave, while you try to paint me as being someone that only contributes with argumentsI don't have to paint shit, this portrait of yourself for posterity is being painted by your own hand and actions.and I just might.
Titiln said, April 19, 2012, 01:07:05 amiced is slowly ruining guild by running out posters and assigning shitty gmods. i used to keep his stupid ideas under control but now you're all on your own. smell ya later
Iced said, April 25, 2012, 06:49:21 pmI also enjoy how you are still trying to get the jz thing as if it was anything more than the expected outcome of his own actions.JESUSzilla
actually walt made the large callout post (complete with the gross exaggeration of iced making religious threads twice a week, which was then reduced to less than twice a month, with some threads only being tangentially against religion) to iced?? and iced was fueling it??? really???????????????????????????????????????????????????
Iced said, April 25, 2012, 06:26:55 pmthe faggots.Iced said, April 25, 2012, 06:49:21 pmbuttfrustatedI object to your use of both of these terms.
Here's what you do: don't give a fuck. If you have a belief, fuck what this motherfucker in New York or Portugal said, that shouldn't affect anything you believe or want to believe. It's super easy to ignore people who want to troll you because of your religion. The only thing you're going to get out of arguing with people about it is "haha your gay for believing in something that isnt real lolz ololzrolf" get the fuck outta here. Walt, you have more sense than that
TempesT said, April 25, 2012, 07:53:50 pmHere's what you do: don't give a fuck. If you have a belief, fuck what this motherfucker in New York or Portugal said, that shouldn't affect anything you believe or want to believe. It's super easy to ignore people who want to troll you because of your religion. The only thing you're going to get out of arguing with people about it is "haha your gay for believing in something that isnt real lolz ololzrolf" get the fuck outta here. Walt, you have more sense than thatquoting for truth
TempesT said, April 25, 2012, 07:53:50 pmHere's what you do: don't give a fuck. If you have a belief, fuck what this motherfucker in New York or Portugal said, that shouldn't affect anything you believe or want to believe. It's super easy to ignore people who want to troll you because of your religion. The only thing you're going to get out of arguing with people about it is "haha your gay for believing in something that isnt real lolz ololzrolf" get the fuck outta here. Walt, you have more sense than thatThis
Rajaa said, April 25, 2012, 04:20:40 pmJango said, April 25, 2012, 10:44:01 amIced is obsolete in comparison to ChristwireIs that a troll website, like that one forum I visited some months ago? Please tell me it's a parody website.Yeah it is
Not so much because neither I nor Iced have been proven to be "trolling." Walt is just angry for some precarious reason. He's going around calling people "douchebags" and saying "fuck you." I don't know what his problem is. The only time I notice his posting activity is when he's prosecuting someone for something that's as arbitrary as moving a finger.
not people, just you mansorryv-- No, seriously. Just to youJust in this threadAnd even then, I took it back and agreed with you
No. You do it to people who don't agree with you. Sorry. You're a horrible person who can't accept that other people think something you're affiliated with is bad in some way.You have a huge issue with accepting different points of views. And when you find someone who disagrees with you in one subject, you then make it your obligation to disagree with them in an array of other subjects of which you don't necessarily have a strong agreement or disagreement with.Stop kidding yourself.Sorry. You're calling other people names that really only apply to yourself.
Eh. I've retired my arguments about why religion (or atleast Christianity) is not detrimental to society. I'll just say this. If Hell does exist, *coughwhichitdoescough*, if you believe in God, you won't be going there, if it doesn't, you're fine. If it does exist and you don't believe in God, your going there. Just keeping it logical with you logical atheists.
But if "God" knows everything, he'll know that your belief in him is not sincere and you'll go to hell anyway.[Now you present another argument and then we go on and on]
Cazaki said, April 25, 2012, 11:01:19 pmEh. I've retired my arguments about why religion (or atleast Christianity) is not detrimental to society. I'll just say this. If Hell does exist, *coughwhichitdoescough*, if you believe in God, you won't be going there, if it doesn't, you're fine. If it does exist and you don't believe in God, your going there. Just keeping it logical with you logical atheists.So just in case there is an almighty alien race somewhere that actually created you, you really should stop believing in God and start believing in those aliens. You know, in case they get offended when you think a non-existent God created you, and decide to devour your mind for eternity in a torrent of pain. Just keep some logic in your head, bro ! If they don't exist, it won't matter, but if they do exist *cough*andtheydo*cough*, you'll be glad you believed in them before it could happen to you.
Rajaa said, April 25, 2012, 11:00:05 pmYou have a huge issue with accepting different points of views. And when you find someone who disagrees with you in one subject, you then make it your obligation to disagree with them in an array of other subjects of which you don't necessarily have a strong agreement or disagreement with.Proof, or I call you're just pulling the crap out of your ass.
well i saw my name dropped like 5 times (and the word loli). but what i really want to know is:why are you so angry walt? (i'm seriously asking here)
Cazaki said, April 25, 2012, 11:07:34 pmI'm just going to leave the topic on that noteNow that's just rude.
You mean after taunting people by insulting their intelligence, telling them "you should do the smart thing, it's safer, just have the same beliefs as me !" by using an argument that could literally be used by anyone for anything ? Leave and not acknowledge that your argument was heavily flawed and insulting ? It's still rude, mate. I'm not saying you should wear a cardboard around your neck that says "I'm shameful and I did something very bad" and post in every topic on the forum, but just understand that your argument is something you should refrain from saying in the future.
He has his reasons to believe. Think of it as the belief equivalent of an Option Select.Hey, it's only natural.
That's exactly how he thinks and does, he just wasn't able to convey it as a good idea to the skepticals or opposers of this idea.Just tell him "you are wrong because X" and if he says "well, that's what I believe about, you know ... my beliefs"then just let him leave the thread because you guys aren't coming to an agreement.
No, to begin with I responded because of this :Cazaki said, April 25, 2012, 11:01:19 pmIf Hell does exist, *coughwhichitdoescough* [...] Just keeping it logical with you logical atheists.Like I said, I found that pretty rude. He was acting like his logic was better than that of Atheists, when the whole argument was heavily flawed. I'm just saying if he said something like that, now he should take a little bit of responsibility and understand that it was flawed to tell others how his logic was better.
I don't really understand your reasoning for being upset. Really I was just tuning in to say that I didn't really feel that religion is harmful to society, though the last part was me being snarky. How was I was offensive or insulting anyone's intelligence is beyond me.walt said, April 25, 2012, 11:35:51 pmHe has his reasons to believe. Think of it as the belief equivalent of an Option Select.Hey, it's only natural.That's not my own beliefs per say, but it does makes sense to me.EDIT: How did you find THAT offensive? EDIT EDIT: I'm not trying to prove that my logic is better than anyone's I just don't see how atheism is logical at all. It's cool, that's why I was trying to leave the topic in the first place.
Cazaki said, April 25, 2012, 11:47:19 pmI don't really understand your reasoning for being upset.Uh... I'm not upset. Why do you think that ? I'm just informing you that it was rude.Cazaki said, April 25, 2012, 11:47:19 pmHow was I was offensive or insulting anyone's intelligence is beyond me.=> Cazaki said, April 25, 2012, 11:01:19 pm[flawed reasoning here] Just keeping it logical with you logical atheists.Information : this is rude. Maybe you didn't intend it as such, and I'm not upset about it, but I'm informing you that it was rude.
Rajaa said, April 25, 2012, 10:48:49 pmNot so much because neither I nor Iced have been proven to be "trolling."Sorry mate, this:Rajaa said, April 25, 2012, 08:53:49 amHow else is he supposed to enlighten people on the idiocy of religion and God?is trolling.
You shouldn't say that because he's actually going to use that as a reason lolPoint is; have some tact. This atheist superior race shit is really tired, no one on this forum actively defends the people that get brought up in the bi-monthly or bi-weekly or bi-whateverthefuckly topic about a stupid (Christian) person doing a stupid thing.
TempesT said, April 26, 2012, 12:24:44 amRajaa said, April 25, 2012, 10:48:49 pmNot so much because neither I nor Iced have been proven to be "trolling."Sorry mate, this:Rajaa said, April 25, 2012, 08:53:49 amHow else is he supposed to enlighten people on the idiocy of religion and God?is trolling.No. I actually believe the latter.
Zero tact presentation of your idea vs people who are on the opposite side of that idea is trolling. Why am I explaining the internet to you?
Cazaki said, April 25, 2012, 11:01:19 pmEh. I've retired my arguments about why religion (or atleast Christianity) is not detrimental to society. I'll just say this. If Hell does exist, *coughwhichitdoescough*, if you believe in God, you won't be going there, if it doesn't, you're fine. If it does exist and you don't believe in God, your going there. Just keeping it logical with you logical atheists.Whether or not hell exists isn't really important. You should strive to do good in life, and accomplish your own goals so long as they don't intentionally interfere with another's. Need religion to do so? Good for you. Don't need it? Good for you. If there's an afterlife, good for you, I'm sure it'll be lovely. If not, at least you had a meaningful existence, even if only in your eyes.Now get back to work you buttfuckers.
TempesT said, April 26, 2012, 12:41:29 amahahahahaha, this dude is a fucking joke.Much like your post history.
Jango said, April 26, 2012, 12:41:02 amCazaki said, April 25, 2012, 11:01:19 pmEh. I've retired my arguments about why religion (or atleast Christianity) is not detrimental to society. I'll just say this. If Hell does exist, *coughwhichitdoescough*, if you believe in God, you won't be going there, if it doesn't, you're fine. If it does exist and you don't believe in God, your going there. Just keeping it logical with you logical atheists.Whether or not hell exists isn't really important. You should strive to do good in life, and accomplish your own goals so long as they don't intentionally interfere with another's. Need religion to do so? Good for you. Don't need it? Good for you. If there's an afterlife, good for you, I'm sure it'll be lovely. If not, at least you had a meaningful existence, even if only in your eyes.Now get back to work you buttfuckers.Siddhartha?
TempesT said, April 26, 2012, 12:43:59 amAlmost made a real reply to that. NICE TRY!Now we're back to square one. Troll.
AAAAAAND that's a wrap!Thanks a lot people, this will be a hit once we're done with the postproduction. We'll keep you posted!
Rajaa being tactless never helped anything.There are ways to be crass with almost any subject and it just kickstarts people into being defensive.Someone suggesting that I am trolling people over having some threads of the several I create monthly being religious ones is simply being dumb and trying to get into arguments needlessly, no other way around it.The ressurection thread is even getting more arguments than the other one. edit: wait what the fuck someone declared it done while i was posting >:C
I started being tactless when people began being tactless to me for being tactless to someone who only posts to be tactless (walt).
Sure, I started it manRajaa said, April 25, 2012, 04:48:17 pmAtheists and Christians do get along, it happens every day without any problems at all. It's just that some people get emotionally hurt by hearing how stupid their affiliation is/can be.
Actually this was the offending post before it got split:Rajaa said, April 25, 2012, 08:53:49 amHow else is he supposed to enlighten people on the idiocy of religion and God?Enlighten - as if we're morons who need superior knowledgeidiocy - as if believing in something makes you an idiotwoops I ended up making a real reply to it. My bad.
walt said, April 26, 2012, 12:53:49 amSure, I started it manRajaa said, April 25, 2012, 04:48:17 pmAtheists and Christians do get along, it happens every day without any problems at all. It's just that some people get emotionally hurt by hearing how stupid their affiliation is/can be.You misinterpreted my post to be a personal insult when I was actually talking about BOTH Atheists and Christians having people that get emotionally hurt when they are related to the stupidity of their affiliations. Like I said, you take things personally when they really aren't. Everything is not about you, believe it or not.TempesT said, April 26, 2012, 12:59:11 amActually this was the offending post before it got split:Rajaa said, April 25, 2012, 08:53:49 amHow else is he supposed to enlighten people on the idiocy of religion and God?Enlighten - as if we're morons who need superior knowledgeidiocy - as if believing in something makes you an idiotwoops I ended up making a real reply to it. My bad.To enlighten (reveal new information) to people the idiocy (the stupidity) of Religion and God. Nowhere in this post does it say that Religion and God are, in themselves, idiotic. I'm not saying I do think they are in themselves idiotic or not, I'm saying that my post does not address that.I can't believe you both have misinterpreted some pretty straightforward posts.
walt said, April 26, 2012, 01:07:49 amhahahaha you really can't believe it.And there you go with that nonsense again. You're really... immature. And I'm not just saying that. I tried to seriously discuss the issue just now and look at what you're posting.
But I know what your stance on religion and God is(you think they're idiotic, "fictional characters"), so I don't get how not saying that changes what your intention was.
[E] said, April 26, 2012, 01:11:03 amlol idiots, you misinterpreted raja's straightforward sarcasm, isn't that ironic ?Neither of those posts are sarcastic. Stop being a catalyst, please.TempesT said, April 26, 2012, 01:11:12 amBut I know what your stance on religion is (you think it's idiotic), so I don't get how not saying that changes what your intention was.No, the idiocy of Religion and God is of those things that Iced made threads about. Ridiculous things that Christians do. I hope that's clearer because I honestly am done with this.
Rajaa said, April 26, 2012, 01:13:24 am[E] said, April 26, 2012, 01:11:03 amlol idiots, you misinterpreted raja's straightforward sarcasm, isn't that ironic ?Neither of those posts are sarcastic. Stop being a catalyst, please.TempesT said, April 26, 2012, 01:11:12 amBut I know what your stance on religion is (you think it's idiotic), so I don't get how not saying that changes what your intention was.No, the idiocy of Religion and God is of those things that Iced made threads about. Ridiculous things that Christians do. I hope that's clearer because I honestly am done with this.I am not a catalyst, if anything I convinced Iced not to ban you.
Rajaa said, April 26, 2012, 01:13:24 am[E] said, April 26, 2012, 01:11:03 amlol idiots, you misinterpreted raja's straightforward sarcasm, isn't that ironic ?Neither of those posts are sarcastic. Stop being a catalyst, please.TempesT said, April 26, 2012, 01:11:12 amBut I know what your stance on religion is (you think it's idiotic), so I don't get how not saying that changes what your intention was.No, the idiocy of Religion and God is of those things that Iced made threads about. Ridiculous things that Christians do. I hope that's clearer because I honestly am done with this.I would agree that God and Religion is idiocy.It should be God and Spiritual. What ridiculous things do you speak of?
[E] said, April 26, 2012, 01:17:23 amI am not a catalyst, if anything I convinced Iced not to ban you.whatRajaa said, April 26, 2012, 01:13:24 amNo, the idiocy of Religion and God is of those things that Iced made threads about. Ridiculous things that Christians do. I hope that's clearer because I honestly am done with this.I disagree?! There is a place for spirituality in people's life, how much of it changes depending on the person. If I showcase threads with weird news and what, a tenth are religious its not because spirituality as a whole is ridiculous, but it lends itself to weird newspieces. Like that cult with gadget the mouse.
Rajaa said, April 26, 2012, 01:13:24 amNo, the idiocy of Religion and God is of those things that Iced made threads about. Ridiculous things that Christians do. I hope that's clearer because I honestly am done with this.Are you saying that atheists are less apt to do stupid things than Christians? Are you implying that a Christian idiot converting to atheism would do fewer stupid things as an atheist? Because it seems to me you're saying atheism is a magical cure-all for stupidity, as though somehow Christianity, and by extension any other religion, in and of itself is the cause of idiots doing stupid things in the name of a belief.
MissBHaven said, April 26, 2012, 12:44:09 amJango said, April 26, 2012, 12:41:02 amCazaki said, April 25, 2012, 11:01:19 pmEh. I've retired my arguments about why religion (or atleast Christianity) is not detrimental to society. I'll just say this. If Hell does exist, *coughwhichitdoescough*, if you believe in God, you won't be going there, if it doesn't, you're fine. If it does exist and you don't believe in God, your going there. Just keeping it logical with you logical atheists.Whether or not hell exists isn't really important. You should strive to do good in life, and accomplish your own goals so long as they don't intentionally interfere with another's. Need religion to do so? Good for you. Don't need it? Good for you. If there's an afterlife, good for you, I'm sure it'll be lovely. If not, at least you had a meaningful existence, even if only in your eyes.Now get back to work you buttfuckers.Siddhartha?Jesus was probably the best Buddhist in existence (well except when he knocked over the salesmen's tables in the temple and told them to get out for turning a place of worship into a place of business)Jesus by himself makes a lot of sense and isn't really funny or ethically controversial. It's when you get followers involved that don't understand his metaphors at all."Cast off the shoes! Follow the gourd!"
This is time you all could have spent making stuff for Mugen, like I do. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Caddie said, April 26, 2012, 02:22:16 amThis is time you all could have spent making stuff for Mugen, like I do. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.One of the greatest things ever caught on film.
Iced said, April 26, 2012, 01:36:11 amIf I showcase threads with weird news and what, a tenth are religiousDude, come on. It's nowhere near a tenth. The articles you post are usually about religious people.But you posting those things isn't offensive or an abuse of power by minorities or whatever. It's just posting about things dumb people do.And if you are offended by that, then you need to grow the fuck up and maybe reexamine your faith because it should be strong enough to weather stupid shit like this.
Then again can you blame a Christian like me to be upset about this satire website that tries to make our belief look like/how we suppose to act?
Articles are articles, it is not necessarily made by Iced. If he posts this, he probably try to provide some informative and entertaining news to people. If it is offensive to you, ignore it or post it to the original creator. Posting news does not make a person a "religious/atheist" hater. I don't know why there are people (Pro-Religious and Pro-Atheist that are always arguing who is right when they are eventually wrong to each other in some degree). Though, both articles pertaining to either religious and atheists are a bit amusing, but its not offensive at all (IMO)."It's just posting about things dumb people do." <- Well that could be wrong, some people can actually not be dump and do these things for some relevant reason that we may never know? Sure that Christian article was a bit.. about getting a symbol back but no one actually OWNS it, so that article was pointless. The other group that tries to keep the symbol should be acknowledged that this symbol is universal and that it can be used by anybody, not just representing the homosexuals. Both were wrong, so that article wasn't really offending one side, rather it was ridiculing both of them.Anyways, as others who are into faith, don't get too offended by these article and don't rashly attack atheists and blaming one for a whole group. Same thing for our side (atheists), this will make the argument continuous and WILL never get resolved.If you don't like the article, ignore it and don't post it, but feel free to post your opinion that is not insulting to the author, but I doubt that will probably occur (due to similar occurences with other conflicts).But if its an article that the author is actually really mocking someone (a legitimate example that actually represents a whole group and not a minority), feel free to put your opinion on it. As J.S Mill says, the more ideas is good for idealism, as it provides many ideas and these ideas can be sorted to either both sides of morality.Well, feel free to counter-argue my point or do whatever you wish, this is my neutral or solution to the possible conflict that everybody seems to fight for continuous about.Ejectok said, April 26, 2012, 04:13:44 amThen again can you blame a Christian like me to be upset about this satire website that tries to make our belief look like/how we suppose to act?You don't have to be upset, just don't mind those articles and hang out with the people that accept your views. Everyone is different and has different views, NO ONE is right (or mostly right). Sure this website may be satire, but that is how the world goes, nothing is perfect.
Ejectok said, April 26, 2012, 04:13:44 amThen again can you blame a Christian like me to be upset about this satire website that tries to make our belief look like/how we suppose to act?You don't have to be upset, just don't mind those articles and hang out with the people that accept your views. Everyone is different and has different views, NO ONE is right (or mostly right). Sure this website may be satire, but that is how the world goes, nothing is perfect.[/quote]I was being hypothetical when I made that statement I was not really upset ( I was actually enjoying some articles for laughs) .What do you mean by NOBODY is right (curious).
Ejectok said, April 26, 2012, 06:59:41 amEjectok said, April 26, 2012, 04:13:44 amThen again can you blame a Christian like me to be upset about this satire website that tries to make our belief look like/how we suppose to act?You don't have to be upset, just don't mind those articles and hang out with the people that accept your views. Everyone is different and has different views, NO ONE is right (or mostly right). Sure this website may be satire, but that is how the world goes, nothing is perfect.I was being hypothetical when I made that statement I was not really upset ( I was actually enjoying some articles for laughs) .What do you mean by NOBODY is right (curious).[/quote]Lol, since you are curious, the reason why that nobody can be fully right is because people have different perspectives and can judge you due their biases in their perspective, so no one can actually fully right (universally) unless it is a question of fact, rather than opinion. Seems like we're getting along for some apparent reason o-O
AkibaRed said, April 26, 2012, 01:46:21 amRajaa said, April 26, 2012, 01:13:24 amNo, the idiocy of Religion and God is of those things that Iced made threads about. Ridiculous things that Christians do. I hope that's clearer because I honestly am done with this.Are you saying that atheists are less apt to do stupid things than Christians? Are you implying that a Christian idiot converting to atheism would do fewer stupid things as an atheist? Because it seems to me you're saying atheism is a magical cure-all for stupidity, as though somehow Christianity, and by extension any other religion, in and of itself is the cause of idiots doing stupid things in the name of a belief.What. My two sentences say none of those things. Stop inflicting pain upon yourself.
but do you or do you not agree that is an little bit of idiocy for an adult person to believe in an invisible ruler of the universe?
I think you're all idiots for arguing about this subject AGAIN. How many times have we actually gone down this path? You all think your side is correct, neither of you are going to be swayed by argument. All you're doing is arguing over the semantics of the words you use and whether someone should be offended by them or not. There is no point arguing if neither side can "win" you're just bashing your collective heads against a wall.Now kiss and make up. Or at least shake hands.
why Rajaa u don't trust smiley face?how is it possible that a virgin can bear a child?or a some hairy dude can magically turn a gallon of water into wine?only stupid irrational people read & believe this bullcrap!and they say they live by this book, no wonder they do stupid thingsright?
is that a troll attempt or something?you people should all go watch the relevant south park episodes, especially "Go God Go", the one about Wiis
Valodim said, April 26, 2012, 10:54:25 amis that a troll attempt or somethingNo, he's joking. We just don't understand his humor.
I don't mind, it was a worthy effort to know you can't say out your answer. despite your earlier denialRajaa said, April 26, 2012, 01:02:24 amTempesT said, April 26, 2012, 12:59:11 amActually this was the offending post before it got split:Rajaa said, April 25, 2012, 08:53:49 amHow else is he supposed to enlighten people on the idiocy of religion and God?Enlighten - as if we're morons who need superior knowledgeidiocy - as if believing in something makes you an idiotwoops I ended up making a real reply to it. My bad.To enlighten (reveal new information) to people the idiocy (the stupidity) of Religion and God. Nowhere in this post does it say that Religion and God are, in themselves, idiotic. I'm not saying I do think they are in themselves idiotic or not, I'm saying that my post does not address that.I can't believe you both have misinterpreted some pretty straightforward posts.or do you think christian are not idiotic and you do respect them and what they believe?
plain insult #1careful denial using language barrier bsthus leads to plain insult #2 about other people's intelligence carefully avoiding to answer anything regarding the insult#1 while repeating insult #2that is your basic MO.face it, you're annoying coward.
I didn't say anything about your "language barrier" and that ironically shows that you have problems understanding the language of my posts.
