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Re: K' (King of Fighters '99, CvTW Version) (UPDATED 8/5/14)
#41  August 05, 2014, 05:41:40 pm
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Glad to see K' in CvTW again. Back in progress or still hiatus?

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Re: K' (King of Fighters '99, CvTW Version) (UPDATED 8/5/14)
#42  August 05, 2014, 10:38:37 pm
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Memo said, August 05, 2014, 03:50:49 pm
Hell yeah,  will this be a separate download or are you updateing the
Full game?
prof. mugen said, August 05, 2014, 05:41:40 pm
Glad to see K' in CvTW again. Back in progress or still hiatus?

I think I may just release this updated version of K' in the Edits & Addons section since he won't be a full release. Like, it will be a patch that just replaces the old K'. I don't plan on going back to CvTW full time for quite a while, I just had a random itch to work on K' for some reason.

QuickFist said, August 05, 2014, 04:07:51 pm
Awesome!! Thank you for this update.
About the Neo Max, how about downgrading Chain Drive to lvl 1, and using the Hyper Chain Drive as lvl 3?

I thought about that since that's how his supers are set up in KoFXIII, with Heaven Drive being the EX version of Crow's Bite, but I'm not sure. I like Heaven Drive's utility in this game and it would need nerfed to be an EX move.

DW said, August 05, 2014, 05:03:49 pm
Very nice update. The new sprites mesh a lot better with the overall theme of the game/look.

Yeah I think so too, I think that's why I wanted to update him so badly. I had planned on eventually editing Dampir's old sprites to mesh better, but then he released these and it was a lot easier to change them out, although like I said, he is missing a crucial (IMO) command normal, which I'll have to sprite myself.
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Re: K' (King of Fighters '99, CvTW Version) (UPDATED 8/5/14)
#43  August 05, 2014, 10:49:34 pm
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Sean Altly said, August 05, 2014, 10:38:37 pm
I like Heaven Drive's utility in this game and it would need nerfed to be an EX move.
It'd probably just need to be nerfed in the damage department, which isn't really that big a deal considering its bigger use (at least judging from what I'm seeing here) is in its ability to blow through attacks.
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Re: K' (King of Fighters '99, CvTW Version) (UPDATED 8/5/14)
#44  August 06, 2014, 02:18:52 am
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Isn't Heat Drive the one that's designed to blow through attacks? Or is that a main utility of Heaven Drive as well?
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#45  August 06, 2014, 02:21:46 am
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No, Heat Drive's almost entirely a combo tool (because of its bad invuln). Heaven Drive iirc is more for blowing through attacks.
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Re: K' (King of Fighters '99, CvTW Version) (UPDATED 8/5/14)
#46  August 06, 2014, 09:59:09 pm
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I guess I'm just confused, when I think of something that blows through attacks, I think of Heat Drive because it moves so quickly across the screen with one big hit, and when I think of combos, I think of Heaven Drive because it's a Shoryu Reppa-type move with more hits.
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Re: K' (King of Fighters '99, CvTW Version) (UPDATED 8/5/14)
#47  August 06, 2014, 10:03:55 pm
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If a full screen attack like Heat Drive could blow through attack (i.e. have good invulnerability) it would kind of be super OP, though. Think Dictator's Final Psycho Crusher / Psycho Break Smasher, that's something that blows through anything, and it's legendary among OP supers. I don't remember much of K' in KoF, but I reckon you can easily trade hits with him against that move, no ?
On the other hand, Heat Drive being practically full screen and very fast and with a large hitbox (AND delayable to time your juggle properly), means it can juggle after nearly anything. It doesn't make the hitcount jump up, but it can chain after anything, it's a sure hit after almost anything, so that's a free super, that's why it's a combo tool.

Meanwhile, a Shouryuu Reppa-type attack will only combo if you're close, it might miss half of its hitcount if the target is too high when you activate it, and as a Shouryuuken-like uppercut, it has the trademark invulnerability that allows it to beat anything (on startup).

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Re: K' (King of Fighters '99, CvTW Version) (UPDATED 8/5/14)
#48  August 06, 2014, 10:09:26 pm
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^ Yeah, pretty much what he said.
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Re: K' (King of Fighters '99, CvTW Version) (UPDATED 8/5/14)
#49  August 07, 2014, 04:04:12 am
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Sean Altly said, August 05, 2014, 09:08:18 am
He also lost Sniper Side and his Rising Knee (he doesn't have these in KoFXIII), and his throw was changed to Spot Pile. Sniper Side was replaced by a command normal with pretty much the same function using his Blowback sprites. If I have time in the future, I may sprite the Rising Knee in this style because I feel like he really needs it.
You should talk to Chazzanova, his K' has those sprites edited to go well with the resized XIII sprites; I dunno if they were included with dampir's set.

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Re: K' (King of Fighters '99, CvTW Version) (UPDATED 8/5/14)
#50  August 07, 2014, 05:22:57 am
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Just sent him a PM. I hope he lets me use them. I had started spriting the Knee Assault already but it would really help me out.
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