He jabbed iirc.-He blocks when characters are taunting. (At least for Don Drago's Goenitz) That isn't right.-The super finish BG doesn't happen if he's being hit when his super KOs P2. Might want to check out your other chars for this.
JediRose (UnluckySe7en) said, July 30, 2013, 02:43:51 amWell, maybe im in too deep, because I know ive selected him quite a few times without crashes.. and now my screen in vselect will not load at all, like I cant see any characters because the character screen wont even pop up..Get the updated Kain and updated Vselect. I tested it and it works.C.A.N said, July 30, 2013, 03:46:22 amHe jabbed iirc.Shouldn't happen if it was a jab, I also put in his old block just in caseC.A.N said:-He blocks when characters are taunting. (At least for Don Drago's Goenitz) That isn't right.He has to have a movetype set to A.C.A.N said:-The super finish BG doesn't happen if he's being hit when his super KOs P2. Might want to check out your other chars for this.I use P.O.T.S hyper BG coding. How would you even code a super BG for a super attack to activate while in a hitstate? Or how would I even test this?C.A.N said:-I also don't like how his standing C has pushback between every hit, but whatever.tweaked on hitC.A.N said:-Why does grounded Schwarze Flamme hit OTG?fixed_Data_Drain_ said, July 30, 2013, 03:01:56 amLaw Theme said, July 30, 2013, 02:58:53 am_Data_Drain_ said, July 30, 2013, 02:42:43 amHm... It might just be Training messing up (and me). But I think Kain's Himmlische Uberqueren up close seems to be unblockable...Might want to look into that.It's not unblockable, Although the first hit's have overhead attributes.No, I distinctly recall standing when I was hit by this move.And Training set to guard was standing too. You might want to double check this.Fixed, I had forgotten about the unguardable var time.
Law Theme said, July 30, 2013, 04:20:58 amI use P.O.T.S hyper BG coding. How would you even code a super BG for a super attack to activate while in a hitstate? Or how would I even test this?He was being hit by Goenitz's Yonokaze at the time.
C.A.N said, July 30, 2013, 04:37:25 amLaw Theme said, July 30, 2013, 04:20:58 amI use P.O.T.S hyper BG coding. How would you even code a super BG for a super attack to activate while in a hitstate? Or how would I even test this?He was being hit by Goenitz's Yonokaze at the time.That's won't help code a super BG to activate while in a hitstate, I could theoretically do it, but what if there is a double KO, the Super BG would still activate. Not really mentioning, he also has a special helper for specials move finishes.
C.A.N said, July 30, 2013, 05:00:18 amAlrighty then. Didn't know it would be a problem to code.It's not hard, but will it make sense? Are you sure he (Goenitz) doesn't use a custom state for that move also? Because If I change it to activate for normal gethits while a super helper is activated and Kain still wins by said helper, the Super BG is active, but if Kain is sent into a custom state it still won't work.
I'm not entirely sure if Yonokaze inflicts a custom state. It's probably not worth the trouble either way.
Law Theme said, July 30, 2013, 05:06:58 amC.A.N said, July 30, 2013, 05:00:18 amAlrighty then. Didn't know it would be a problem to code.It's not hard, but will it make sense? Are you sure he (Goenitz) doesn't use a custom state for that move also? Because If I change it to activate for normal gethits while a super helper is activated and Kain still wins by said helper, the Super BG is active, but if Kain is sent into a custom state it still won't work. No, it wouldn't make sense, and is not worth the hassle. The super KO BG if set to trigger when the char KOs p2 while in the super state. This isn't in response to you, Infinite. I know you know this and you've already explained it mostly. Just shedding a bit more light on it. Anyway, if said char is hit, they are no longer in the super state, though rather in a hit state. Whether the hit state is custom or not, doesn't matter. They're no longer in the state in which it is required for the super BG/finish to trigger, therefore it doesn't trigger. No, it's not worth the trouble. As it's a rare occurrence as is imo. Along with other factors that present itself with having it trigger no matter if the char is in the state or not.
Law Theme said, July 30, 2013, 04:20:58 amC.A.N said, July 30, 2013, 03:46:22 amHe jabbed iirc.Shouldn't happen if it was a jab, I also put in his old block just in caseBut I can say for a fact he did do this.He can get out of hit stun by jabbing sometimes when AI controlled... Though, perhaps I should test your latest version you just released...
Oppsss. I just remembered that I had a Mediafire link up also and I never once updated that link. so if anyone downloded him from Mediafire you most likely still have the first version of him. I will upload the newest update of him to Mediafire right now.
Uhh i know this might sound dumb but did you update and re-upload all the chars with the hit bug fixed? just asking cause im about to re-download all your chars but i dont wanna do that before you updated them.
I just downloaded a fresh copy of Kain from your Skydrive and changed the config to Chain Combos/Air Combos, after playing with him, his Down + Hard Punch (launcher) wont connect on any character in Arcade and in Training. His older version did connect.
A little off topic for Deadpool- Doing HK Kata-a-Rama after a hard knockdown into a super will have the super do no damage.
Zer0degreez said, July 31, 2013, 12:55:29 amUhh i know this might sound dumb but did you update and re-upload all the chars with the hit bug fixed? just asking cause im about to re-download all your chars but i dont wanna do that before you updated them.Yes, but I would wait on Deadpool if I were you...Hungry Wolf said, July 31, 2013, 06:32:42 amI just downloaded a fresh copy of Kain from your Skydrive and changed the config to Chain Combos/Air Combos, after playing with him, his Down + Hard Punch (launcher) wont connect on any character in Arcade and in Training. His older version did connect.Fixed
Infinite... Remember when me and C.A.N said that Kain can ignore hitstun? I caught this in one of my attempts making a video. I cropped it to the AI problem.
I checked the source game and he didn't seem to have autoguard in that move there. (it was his TOP move BTW)
MightyKombat said, August 01, 2013, 06:38:25 amI checked the source game and he didn't seem to have autoguard in that move there. (it was his TOP move BTW)It's not even just that move. I've seen him sometimes do a light jab, and cancel a hit with it.I'm honestly not sure why he does this though...
_Data_Drain_ said, August 01, 2013, 06:32:01 amInfinite... Remember when me and C.A.N said that Kain can ignore hitstun? I caught this in one of my attempts making a video. I cropped it to the AI problem.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH72N8feWus&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]Fixed. I tested his AI with about 10 characters and didn't see him get out of hitstun/guardstun.
