I'm sorry, but what was the point of posting this? The most you did was find a source image that everyone has had for months and then click a handful of times (if that). You did no graphical work and you did no coding. When it's all said and done this is KoF XII Day Stadium (Beta) by Cybaster. Awesome job Cybaster, keep it up.  

Also, where is the feedback here? All I see is just...putting down a creator.

Ah, so according to Hank Venture, we shouldn't use Cybaster's awesome stage tool because it does the work for us. So, good job wasting your time releasing that. 

AZ said, February 19, 2010, 09:24:30 pm

SeanAltly said, February 19, 2010, 09:04:22 pm

Ah, so according to Hank Venture, we shouldn't use Cybaster's awesome stage tool because it does the work for us. So, good job wasting your time releasing that. 

You do realize he was one of the beta testers don't you?

And? So what was the point of his post? And before he runs around trying to accuse me of eStalking him again, I posted this because his post was just as pointless as he perceives this stage release to be. Him beta testing it means he should have been expecting releases like this, and if he goes around making posts like this in every stage release like this in the future, he's going to be a busy, busy guy.

On topic:
The stage looks nice in the pic, Flamekyo, but I'll wait for some animations and what not. Good luck with it.

Ah, so according to Hank Venture, we shouldn't use Cybaster's awesome stage tool because it does the work for us. So, good job wasting your time releasing that. 

And? So what was the point of his post? And before he runs around trying to accuse me of eStalking him again, I posted this because his post was just as pointless as he perceives this stage release to be. Him beta testing it means he should have been expecting releases like this, and if he goes around making posts like this in every stage release like this in the future, he's going to be a busy, busy guy.

HankVenture said, February 19, 2010, 09:45:08 pm

SeanAltly said, February 19, 2010, 09:04:22 pm

Ah, so according to Hank Venture, we shouldn't use Cybaster's awesome stage tool because it does the work for us. So, good job wasting your time releasing that. 

Anyway, now that Little Miss Prissy above me is done throwing her temper tantrum we can get down to the real point. The point I was making was that since he did literally no work whatsoever that it can't even be considered his release. He downloaded the image, ran it through the program, and then called it an alpha. He didn't add anything to it of his own whatsoever. No resize to better suit character size, no Photoshop/Gimp work, no animations, nothing. Literally zero work went into it. People are already well aware of what Cybaster's tool can do and saying that it's a demonstration showing what it can do isn't a valid excuse. If anything using it for just a static image is an improper demonstration. A proper application of the tool would be the Russia stage that was up here for a short time. The BG it's self was jigged using the tool and then other effects were brought in to enhance the stage. So yeah, it's a waste of time to release a static image that you did zero work on. Stop following my posts around and crying wolf every time I say something you don't like.

SeanAltly said, February 19, 2010, 09:36:32 pm

And? So what was the point of his post? And before he runs around trying to accuse me of eStalking him again, I posted this because his post was just as pointless as he perceives this stage release to be. Him beta testing it means he should have been expecting releases like this, and if he goes around making posts like this in every stage release like this in the future, he's going to be a busy, busy guy.

Oops, looks like she had more to say. If anyone's post was pointless it was your own. I was pointing out a huge fallacy in using the tool for only singular static images (especially from seasoned stage creators). Above all else Images that weren't edited in the slightest. Anyone who uses it for purposes like that aren't creators, and they sure as hell aren't contributing anything to the community. On top of that maybe someone will see my posts and think before using the tool as an end all be all for stage creating and put forth a little effort. I want to see people actually get better and use the tool for what it's meant. Not for bullshit releases like these.

Who said i wasnt going to add more stuff to the stage, you're making it sound like i just got the image, ran it through the tool and thats it,

im going to added alot more stuff to it

-Flamekyo- said, February 19, 2010, 09:48:31 pm

HankVenture said, February 19, 2010, 09:45:08 pm

SeanAltly said, February 19, 2010, 09:04:22 pm

Ah, so according to Hank Venture, we shouldn't use Cybaster's awesome stage tool because it does the work for us. So, good job wasting your time releasing that. 

Anyway, now that Little Miss Prissy above me is done throwing her temper tantrum we can get down to the real point. The point I was making was that since he did literally no work whatsoever that it can't even be considered his release. He downloaded the image, ran it through the program, and then called it an alpha. He didn't add anything to it of his own whatsoever. No resize to better suit character size, no Photoshop/Gimp work, no animations, nothing. Literally zero work went into it. People are already well aware of what Cybaster's tool can do and saying that it's a demonstration showing what it can do isn't a valid excuse. If anything using it for just a static image is an improper demonstration. A proper application of the tool would be the Russia stage that was up here for a short time. The BG it's self was jigged using the tool and then other effects were brought in to enhance the stage. So yeah, it's a waste of time to release a static image that you did zero work on. Stop following my posts around and crying wolf every time I say something you don't like.

SeanAltly said, February 19, 2010, 09:36:32 pm

And? So what was the point of his post? And before he runs around trying to accuse me of eStalking him again, I posted this because his post was just as pointless as he perceives this stage release to be. Him beta testing it means he should have been expecting releases like this, and if he goes around making posts like this in every stage release like this in the future, he's going to be a busy, busy guy.

Oops, looks like she had more to say. If anyone's post was pointless it was your own. I was pointing out a huge fallacy in using the tool for only singular static images (especially from seasoned stage creators). Above all else Images that weren't edited in the slightest. Anyone who uses it for purposes like that aren't creators, and they sure as hell aren't contributing anything to the community. On top of that maybe someone will see my posts and think before using the tool as an end all be all for stage creating and put forth a little effort. I want to see people actually get better and use the tool for what it's meant. Not for bullshit releases like these.

Who said i wasnt going to add more stuff to the stage, you're making it sound like i just got the image, ran it through the tool and thats it,

im going to added alot more stuff to it

However, you did just run it through the tool and that's it. That's what you released here. That is what I downloaded and that is what I'm leaving feedback on. I'm sure as hell not going to leave feedback on work you never did. If you were going to add more to it then you should have held off on the release because all you did is produce something thousands of people can replicate in seconds. All it looks like you were trying to do is call dibs on the stage.

and Beppu's conversion looked like shit.

SeanAltly said, February 19, 2010, 09:04:22 pm

Ah, so according to Hank Venture, we shouldn't use Cybaster's awesome stage tool because it does the work for us. So, good job wasting your time releasing that.  

Anyway, now that Little Miss Prissy above me is done throwing her temper tantrum we can get down to the real point. The point I was making was that since he did literally no work whatsoever that it can't even be considered his release. He downloaded the image, ran it through the program, and then called it an alpha. He didn't add anything to it of his own whatsoever. No resize to better suit character size, no Photoshop/Gimp work, no animations, nothing. Literally zero work went into it. People are already well aware of what Cybaster's tool can do and saying that it's a demonstration showing what it can do isn't a valid excuse. If anything using it for just a static image is an improper demonstration. A proper application of the tool would be the Russia stage that was up here for a short time. The BG it's self was jigged using the tool and then other effects were brought in to enhance the stage. So yeah, it's a waste of time to release a static image that you did zero work on. Stop following my posts around and crying wolf every time I say something you don't like.

SeanAltly said, February 19, 2010, 09:36:32 pm

And? So what was the point of his post? And before he runs around trying to accuse me of eStalking him again, I posted this because his post was just as pointless as he perceives this stage release to be. Him beta testing it means he should have been expecting releases like this, and if he goes around making posts like this in every stage release like this in the future, he's going to be a busy, busy guy.

Oops, looks like she had more to say. If anyone's post was pointless it was your own. I was pointing out a huge fallacy in using the tool for only singular static images (especially from seasoned stage creators). Above all else Images that weren't edited in the slightest. Anyone who uses it for purposes like that aren't creators, and they sure as hell aren't contributing anything to the community. On top of that maybe someone will see my posts and think before using the tool as an end all be all for stage creating and put forth a little effort. I want to see people actually get better and use the tool for what it's meant. Not for bullshit releases like these.

And? So what was the point of his post? And before he runs around trying to accuse me of eStalking him again, I posted this because his post was just as pointless as he perceives this stage release to be. Him beta testing it means he should have been expecting releases like this, and if he goes around making posts like this in every stage release like this in the future, he's going to be a busy, busy guy.

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Anyway, now that Little Miss Prissy above me is done throwing her temper tantrum we can get down to the real point. The point I was making was that since he did literally no work whatsoever that it can't even be considered his release. He downloaded the image, ran it through the program, and then called it an alpha. He didn't add anything to it of his own whatsoever

and?!

it makes your life difficult or what?!

is HIS release, since he used the program, even if it took him less than a minute, he upload it and announce it...

not to be rude... but I don't see the point of this...
we get something great from Cybaster and bash starts 

So according to HankVenture, we are not allowed to use Cybaster tools?

HankVenture decides what we can and what we can't do? Since when?

I see this topic like this...

I will take a pic, use the program and announced as "WHATEVER NAME STAGE by Cybaster" released!!

is that ok?

Hey look a french guy is trying to get rich with mugen!  

I never said that. I said that it's an improper use of what the tool is really meant for and that the release was not a proper demonstration of it's uses. It's not meant to be a one stop shop for stage making.

I just didn't see any real reason to reply since what you said didn't really seem aimed at me.

Cybaster himself calls the tool an "Automatic Stage Creation Tool." So gee, I wonder what people are going to use it for?

Anyway, IMO, there's no need for HD stages if they don't bring something new to the party, and a static stage with no deltas is basically putting a wallpaper in your Mugen.

Needs something like flying leafs, sun with lens flare, birds, wind animation, whatever ... as long as it gives life to the stage.

The initial goal of this tool is to accelerate the creation process, so that creators can focus on their animations and other stuff, rather than trying to limit colorloss and calculate parameters. Of course, I guess many people will release rushed static stages, but hey, it's always been like that, some people put work in their creations, others don't.

was simply releasing a stage that he thought was a good demonstration of how well the tool staves off color loss.

if he really wanted to effect any change like he claims, he would have calmly, respectfully stated something

kids

It looked like he did listen to you but, he just lost motivation for the stage

Ze Djoulz said, February 20, 2010, 12:23:18 pm

yeah and why don't you kids go do all these BS in private, using what we call "private message" a.k.a. PM??

I suggested the entire previous topic be cleaned, as in deleted, but instead it was split into a seperate topic, I assume so that it could continue to be discussed. And ask HankVenture, last time we had an argument, I sent him a PM that began with the line "Rather than derail the topic further, I thought I'd PM you instead," and he immediately accused me of "flooding his PM box" and he now thinks I follow his every post, obsessively waiting for him to say something I don't like. In fact, the two times I've tried exactly what you're suggesting (continuing a debate or argument through PMs), it went horribly awry and I was accused of stalking people. I also saw in a report someone made about the original topic where this argument started that said that "Hank and Sean arguments just pop in release threads these days," which just pisses me off because it's only happened twice. Anyway, before you go around calling people kids and patronizing them, you should probably know what you're talking about first.

SeanAltly said, February 20, 2010, 07:43:02 pm

Ze Djoulz said, February 20, 2010, 12:23:18 pm

yeah and why don't you kids go do all these BS in private, using what we call "private message" a.k.a. PM??

I suggested the entire previous topic be cleaned, as in deleted, but instead it was split into a seperate topic, I assume so that it could continue to be discussed. And ask HankVenture, last time we had an argument, I sent him a PM that began with the line "Rather than derail the topic further, I thought I'd PM you instead," and he immediately accused me of "flooding his PM box" and he now thinks I follow his every post, obsessively waiting for him to say something I don't like. In fact, the two times I've tried exactly what you're suggesting (continuing a debate or argument through PMs), it went horribly awry and I was accused of stalking people. I also saw in a report someone made about the original topic where this argument started that said that "Hank and Sean arguments just pop in release threads these days," which just pisses me off because it's only happened twice. Anyway, before you go around calling people kids and patronizing them, you should probably know what you're talking about first.

Don't get so emo over Mugen.

Good advice, troll. Maybe you should give it to HankVenture.  

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/5442/865905-obvious_troll_super.jpg

You're right, pardon me. You're acting like a troll.

Near [Yz] said, February 20, 2010, 07:25:03 pm

Render out that Barney plane and make it move pls.

Actually that was the first thing i did, now i just need to add like a smoke trail behind it

also, i was messing around with the tool and i just decided to use the RBG algorithm,

and i saw that there was no difference with the stage when i used the jigsaw algorithm.

They look the same and with the RGB algorithm i get 60 fps, so i guess ill be using the RGB

Near [Yz] said, February 20, 2010, 08:23:35 pm

No, this is a fight thread that involves Cybaster's tool.

So people in this therad are fighitng over Cybaster's penis?

Near [Yz] said, February 20, 2010, 08:23:35 pm

No, this is a fight thread that involves Cybaster's tool.

So people in this therad are fighitng over Cybaster's penis?

Bastard Kagami~n said, February 20, 2010, 08:37:32 pm

Near [Yz] said, February 20, 2010, 08:23:35 pm

No, this is a fight thread that involves Cybaster's tool.

So people in this therad are fighitng over Cybaster's penis?

No this topic is about sean trying to get on Hank's penis.