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Kony 2012 - Invisible Children Inc. (Read 3240 times)

Started by Human, March 08, 2012, 01:30:19 pm
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#41  March 11, 2012, 04:33:07 pm
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#42  March 11, 2012, 04:35:26 pm
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"finally a chance to link to this shitty xkcd comic" he thought
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#43  March 11, 2012, 08:04:07 pm
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I don't see 'yall's problem. Media attention of any kind is extremely helpful for a cause such as this
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#44  March 11, 2012, 11:00:52 pm
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The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission. These books each refer to the rape and sexual assault that are perennial issues with the UPDF, the military group Invisible Children is defending.
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#45  March 13, 2012, 06:59:47 pm
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#46  March 15, 2012, 02:18:01 pm
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http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/uganda-screening-of-kony-201.html

They screened the video in uganda.
Uganda citizens were expecting a documentary that portrayed their suffering and exposed the crimes that happened there and didnt take it well, with what they think is exploitative bullshit.

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Having heard so many great things about the film, the crowd’s expectations were high.

People I spoke to anticipated seeing a video that showed the world the terrible atrocities that they had suffered during the conflict, and the ongoing struggles they still face trying to rebuild their lives after two lost decades.

The audience was at first puzzled to see the narrative lead by an American man – Jason Russell – and his young son.

Towards the end of the film, the mood turned more to anger at what many people saw as a foreign, inaccurate account that belittled and commercialised their suffering, as the film promotes Kony bracelets and other fundraising merchandise, with the aim of making Kony infamous.

One woman I spoke to made the comparison of selling Osama Bin Laden paraphernalia post 9/11 – likely to be highly offensive to many Americans, however well intentioned the campaign behind it.

The event ended with the angrier members of the audience throwing rocks and shouting abusive criticism, as the rest fled for safety, leaving an abandoned projector, with organisers and the press running for cover
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#47  March 15, 2012, 03:01:09 pm
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After watching the vid (at 1.5 speed, thanx):

-Nice branding, nice narrative (for most of the middle-and-upper-class audience, of course), excellent marketing design. Since 'kits' are sold, I think the proper term for this is iActivism. :P

-Music had a nice thump when it had to, building up expectation. Sounded much like a movie trailer (COMING IN 2012!).

-Didn't show the really ugly stuff except in some flashes (did you even notice there is no blood or injured people in hospitals? The only red you'll see is in their 'Kony' shirts), appeals to the 'awwww' factor when showing the clean white blonde kid. The poor traumatized black kid appears for a bit, but when showing him as a grown man he is 'whitefied' and happy. Yay! No other significant black character is shown in the vid-no need to hear more sad stories, they're probably all the same. Also their personalities. Also, god forbid any of them actually joined the rebels because they agreed with some of their ideals or any of them actually reveal that this is a highly complex conflict, and that their culture is different from ours.

-We know rebel groups are baaaaad and the local army is gooooood (oops, ignore that comment if you are in Syria or were in Lebanon, or if you watched Star Wars, of course). The UN is nice but they can't do squat (because they're sissies anyway like the Europeans, but let's not say it out loud). But Obama is good and he sent the (good!) Ugandan military some advisors. Yay!

-The narrative itself is nice, because it's told from the viewpoint of a white middle-to-higher-class USA young and handsome male who wants to defend his own interests and his son's, not from any of the actual victims I can't relate to.

-Best of all: we get to feel totally guilt-free (and maybe earn some fuel for some moralist random 'freedom fighting' invasion in a country abroad?) for the cost of less than a videogame console. If we really cared about Africa we'd actually have to read some stuff (booooooriiiing) about the current situation and history there instead of just watching a 30' vid, and that's too much; putting some (few) $$$ comes with less of a brain effort and makes us feel like we're saving the world anyway! Yipeee!

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#48  March 15, 2012, 03:03:36 pm
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exactly the reaction a reasonable human being should have anticipated

awful awful awful idea
 
apparently ugandans aren't american college students who knew
honest mistake  :-\
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#49  March 15, 2012, 03:06:18 pm
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Seriously what is the deal in explaining the situation to a five year old?

how incompetent do you have to be that child soldiers doesn't generate enough empathy????
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#50  March 15, 2012, 03:09:15 pm
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Good analysis, nothing more to add, except:

iActivism. :P
Slacktivism is the proper term! Ask Wikipedia! I actually came across the term about a week ago while educating myself on the Kony issue and the company behind the notorious video.

My conclusion is the same as yours (if what I think is saracasm in your post is actually sarcasm =P).

Years of history in a 30 minute video, etc, etc. It's just not right, especially considering the facts.
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#51  March 15, 2012, 03:20:15 pm
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I don't really agree with that type of criticism. It's just meaningless idealism in the end.

There are two ways to go about activism: Appeal to "how it should be" and "what people should do" in an idealistic fashion, or work with what's actually there and how people actually act for maximum profit. Guess which is more effective (hint: it's the one capitalism is founded on)

There is also the difference between reaching a very narrow but very accurate audience, and a very wide but completely inaccurate (if not just random) audience. Guess which is more effective (hint: it's the one capitalism is founded on)

The whole explain to a child deal is a very American thing, like all the "for my home&family" commercials. It's kinda weird but I guess that's just their values.. :P
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#52  March 15, 2012, 03:22:08 pm
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#53  March 15, 2012, 03:23:31 pm
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Val, but I know actual activists who do it the right way. They exist! :P

My conclusion is the same as yours (if what I think is saracasm in your post is actually sarcasm =P).
Egads! We have agreed in an international politics topic! The mayans were right about 2012! :O

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#54  March 15, 2012, 03:26:12 pm
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#55  March 15, 2012, 03:26:38 pm
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#56  March 15, 2012, 03:26:58 pm
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that's kinda vague
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#57  March 15, 2012, 03:29:11 pm
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I agree with val.

In other less advanced societies children aren't taken into account at all, nor women.
It may not be USA specific, but perhaps limited to *some* First World countries.

"We live in a world of perpetual outrage"
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#58  March 15, 2012, 03:33:04 pm
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#59  March 15, 2012, 03:35:16 pm
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seems to be a general 'western world' philosophy

i don't see anything distinctly american about it
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#60  March 15, 2012, 03:36:49 pm
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what is not a thing? what I am talking about is a fairly distinct kind of patriotism, the explaining to the children thing here is just a very specific instance