This is were i will post info regarding my Leona WIPSo far i have all her basic stuff done and 1 special,moon Slasher.Some pics of progress
Thanks for the comments guys!Markpachi said, November 23, 2014, 06:23:11 amI think you went overboard with the blood effect on that last preview. lol Yeah i did but it looks so right in game.
Not digging the blood either, unless she had a sword or something, it simple doesnt match with the character, but hey your the boss you decide what you like at the end, otherwise it looks great!
When I saw "Leona Heidern WIP" by Memo, i was expecting KoF XIII Leona in CvS form. But alas, that's not the case.Not complaining though! What you've shown us looks really great! Although blood loss is really overboard there, maybe you should keep it for her slashing moves, cuz in the last GIF, i saw a geyser of blood coming after a kick. But hey, do what you want. Your the coder anyways! Good luck!
Ok so blood or no blood? I know that attackdoesnt have blood in source but its a cutting attack.Her grab has blood, im not sure why her Moon Slashernever had blood.I could tone it down so its not a curtain of blood spilling out too.
Black Hatter said, November 23, 2014, 06:29:17 pmWhen I saw "Leona Heidern WIP" by Memo, i was expecting KoF XIII Leona in CvS form. But alas, that's not the case.Not complaining though! What you've shown us looks really great! Although blood loss is really overboard there, maybe you should keep it for her slashing moves, cuz in the last GIF, i saw a geyser of blood coming after a kick. But hey, do what you want. Your the coder anyways! Good luck!I want the sprites, if they come around i'll use them.XGargoyle said, November 23, 2014, 06:38:41 pmis she going to be based on a specific game or mix of them, or are you going for a custom version?Im going with the KOF 2000 moveset.
Memo said, November 23, 2014, 06:35:01 pmOk so blood or no blood? I know that attackdoesnt have blood in source but its a cutting attack.Her grab has blood, im not sure why her Moon Slashernever had blood.I could tone it down so its not a curtain of blood spilling out too.If you are going custom then why not? Just keep it on the slash moves. Personally i dont have a problem with that since im used to seeing her and her father do bloody slash moves in past games anyway. But a pinch of blood FX on those kinds of moves doesnt hurt i guess. If not then i say go with those Hi res slash styles (non bloody) then thats seen in Kojirobadass Fumma and Hanzo Ninjas for example
Memo said, November 23, 2014, 06:35:01 pmOk so blood or no blood? I know that attackdoesnt have blood in source but its a cutting attack.Her grab has blood, im not sure why her Moon Slashernever had blood.I could tone it down so its not a curtain of blood spilling out too.No, what I meant is blood should be reserved for her cutting/slashing attacks, like Moon Slasher. Maybe blood in those types of attacks, and no blood in her punches and kicks. It would make a bit of sense, since that's how I remember Leona in KoF '97 (the only KoF game other than 2003 and XIII I've played). Just giving my two cents, you know?
Black Hatter said, November 23, 2014, 06:46:09 pmMemo said, November 23, 2014, 06:35:01 pmOk so blood or no blood? I know that attackdoesnt have blood in source but its a cutting attack.Her grab has blood, im not sure why her Moon Slashernever had blood.I could tone it down so its not a curtain of blood spilling out too.No, what I meant is blood should be reserved for her cutting/slashing attacks, like Moon Slasher. Maybe blood in those types of attacks, and no blood in her punches and kicks. It would make a bit of sense, since that's how I remember Leona in KoF '97 (the only KoF game other than 2003 and XIII I've played). Just giving my two cents, you know? Oh yeah, im just putting blood on her slash attacks not on her basics.
Charge type doesn't fit Leona in my opinion, did she had charge commands in the any of the source material anyway?
WooshaQ said, November 23, 2014, 08:35:00 pmCharge type doesn't fit Leona in my opinion, did she had charge commands in the any of the source material anyway?Yes
Leona has always been a charge character aside from her earring based projectiles. So it would make sense to keep her as a charge character to those who know her well.
This means I haven't played her a long long time, perhaps you could use a config so people could choose their play type?
Memo said, November 23, 2014, 06:44:22 pmIm going with the KOF 2000 moveset.yeah! imo kof2000 has the best movesets. and would she have an orochi version?
WooshaQ said, November 24, 2014, 03:18:20 amThis means I haven't played her a long long time, perhaps you could use a config so people could choose their play type?For sure, i dont really like charge commands.地獄の花 said, November 24, 2014, 05:19:26 amMemo said, November 23, 2014, 06:44:22 pmIm going with the KOF 2000 moveset.yeah! imo kof2000 has the best movesets. and would she have an orochi version?Im not sure on an orochi mode yet, maybe if i have everything in the sff i need.Grand Saber
Pusha 2 said, November 24, 2014, 05:56:30 amThat's some very juicy blood, but I'd ditch the transparency TBH.I ditched the trans and it makes the blood look niceand real juicy now.
Imo I felt the Trans blood looked fine. It reminded me of the blood effects that pots Nakoruru had. Leona looks bad ass bro.
HUNGRY WOLF said, November 24, 2014, 07:40:39 amImo I felt the Trans blood looked fine. It reminded me of the blood effects that pots Nakoruru had. Leona looks bad ass bro.Really? I thought POTS Nako had solid blood? I guess I've been out of it too long.
HUNGRY WOLF said, November 24, 2014, 07:40:39 amImo I felt the Trans blood looked fine. It reminded me of the blood effects that pots Nakoruru had. Leona looks bad ass bro.This ^
IRL blood isn't transparent though. If you keep the blood transparent here it looks more like Crystal Light and runs the risk of looking silly.
I'm just kidding. I like the transparent version because other chars are already like that, that's all.
Or how about using different blood effects that are smaller and not as exaggerated, instead of using one that is ridiculously huge? That way you wouldn't have to make blood transparent.
〠HadeS 】 said, November 24, 2014, 03:40:01 pmI'm just kidding. I like the transparent version because other chars are already like that, that's all.I must agree.
Perhaps use Jmorphman's updated Vice blood FX as a base? He used 2 layers: One that is greyscaled that is given a subtraction on top of the actual blood FX with addition.He then used explods to implement them:Code: [State #, Blood (Additive)]type = ExplodtriggerAll = NumTargettrigger1 = !Timetrigger2 = AnimElemTime(X) = Y anim = 8051sprPriority = 5posType = P1pos = #, #scale = 0.5,0.5pauseMoveTime = -1superMoveTime = -1ownPal = 1[State #, Blood (Subtractive)]type = ExplodtriggerAll = NumTargettrigger1 = !Timetrigger2 = AnimElemTime(X) = Yanim = 8061sprPriority = 5posType = P1pos = #, #scale = 0.5,0.5pauseMoveTime = -1superMoveTime = -1ownPal = 1
I say try what Froz is suggesting, I remember when jmorph was working on Vice. This same type of conversation came up, until he implemented this code. Either way it's your call and look forward to her in action. Off topic what happen to your black-widow wip, I was really looking forward to her.
OR HOW ABOUT NO BLOOD AT ALL?Iori's attacks are slashes too, and there's no blood there. For consistency's sake, no blood. Also, it looks bad
I think blood is a good option it makes it look like the attacks really hurt and its good for a change there shouldve been blood on ioris moves it would go better
How about blood on\off option in config file? I'm not sure if it is possible - but I suppose, it would make everybody happy
I'm trying to remember how Jmorphman did it with Vice. It's been too long, sorry guys.Bastard Walt said, November 24, 2014, 11:01:39 pmOR HOW ABOUT NO BLOOD AT ALL?Iori's attacks are slashes too, and there's no blood there. For consistency's sake, no blood. Also, it looks bad They do in KOF! But this is not KOF sprites so I see your point.
In SF2 fighters puked, in AOF the guys would bleed, teeth would fall off, faces would swell But all of that died out over the years, even in KOF with the Air CDs in 94/95. Everything has become more fast paced, stylish, cleaner.
Bastard Walt said, November 24, 2014, 11:58:08 pmIn SF2 fighters puked, in AOF the guys would bleed, teeth would fall off, faces would swell But all of that died out over the years, even in KOF with the Air CDs in 94/95. Everything has become more fast paced, stylish, cleaner.Yeah and in Mugen some characters piss their pants when they get KOed. Maybe you're right lol. Nice to know the blood will be config.
Im coding Leona with an alt mode like Terry, this mode has her commandschanged, BLOOD.. and a different run anim than her default run.
Will it be a custom evil mode, I just want to see her eyes glow and scream uncontrollably. That intro was a all time favorite for me. Good luck on this one, looking forward to the end results.
BIG BOSS said, November 25, 2014, 05:00:15 pmWill it be a custom evil mode, I just want to see her eyes glow and scream uncontrollably. That intro was a all time favorite for me. Good luck on this one, looking forward to the end results.Damn i just checked the sff, i dont have everything i neede tomake an orochi mode but im going to use whats there anywaysto make her a little different in her alt mode.
Memo said, November 25, 2014, 04:15:40 pmIm coding Leona with an alt mode like Terry, this mode has her commandschanged, BLOOD.. and a different run anim than her default run.sounds dope man
Memo said, November 25, 2014, 06:50:11 pmBIG BOSS said, November 25, 2014, 05:00:15 pmWill it be a custom evil mode, I just want to see her eyes glow and scream uncontrollably. That intro was a all time favorite for me. Good luck on this one, looking forward to the end results.Damn i just checked the sff, i dont have everything i neede tomake an orochi mode but im going to use whats there anywaysto make her a little different in her alt mode.You should PM Dampir: IMO he will be happy helping you with the sprites for Orochi Leona.
Garuda said, November 26, 2014, 07:58:02 amMemo said, November 25, 2014, 06:50:11 pmBIG BOSS said, November 25, 2014, 05:00:15 pmWill it be a custom evil mode, I just want to see her eyes glow and scream uncontrollably. That intro was a all time favorite for me. Good luck on this one, looking forward to the end results.Damn i just checked the sff, i dont have everything i neede tomake an orochi mode but im going to use whats there anywaysto make her a little different in her alt mode.You should PM Dampir: IMO he will be happy helping you with the sprites for Orochi Leona.Well i dont really want to ask him to do anything right now since hesbusy with his wips and i already asked him for a conversion of Leona'sXIII sprites. Im pretty sure hes going to do the conversion like he did K's.I decided i was not going to use this sprite set but i got bored waiting soi started to code her with this set. But when those XIII sprites come byim using them ASAP.I think Orochi Leona sould be a separate character too, since im usingthe other mode for command changes, blood and a couple of differences that her specials will have.
2 versions is a nice idea. I admit I prefer this way for my selfish vision. Ok, so we will have another set of sprites, good to hear this!! Not saying that I dislike the sprites that are in use right now, but Dampir is an amazing spriter and I know that it will looks better.Keep your hard work coming, man!
I actually really like this set of sprites, so I'm happy you're doing something with themDampir's xiii set will be dope tho, good luck on Leona!
well, the low res character sprites certainly clash with the high res sparks Why don't you use her KOF XIII sprites instead? http://www.justnopoint.com/lbends/index.php?location=sprites&page=&gallery=kofxiii&file=Leona
Bastard Walt said, November 26, 2014, 06:49:12 pmConsiderably flashier. Any chance that it could be the EX version? Those fx as a ex version does make more sense since this attack looks far more powerful than the original moon slash.
Memo said, November 26, 2014, 06:26:36 pmhey what do you guys think about this..KOF XIII FX's on alt mode?Sample Moon SlasherLove it. Im familiar with that FX there. thats perfect for her!HUNGRY WOLF said, November 26, 2014, 10:05:57 pmBastard Walt said, November 26, 2014, 06:49:12 pmConsiderably flashier. Any chance that it could be the EX version? Those fx as a ex version does make more sense since this attack looks far more powerful than the original moon slash. Yeah definitely agree with this also!
Its decided then, i will be using them for the EX moves.I dont have any for gliding buster tho but its ok.
Memo said, November 27, 2014, 02:52:32 amIts decided then, i will be using them for the EX moves.I dont have any for gliding buster tho but its ok.really is a beautiful work, so nice to see leona in this style so keep it up my friend
Markpachi said, November 27, 2014, 11:04:13 amIs it just me, or is Leona's arm gets chunky all of the sudden near the end of the GIF animation?I can see that tooAnd others little pixels, i think is because the fx except for the arm
Markpachi said, November 27, 2014, 11:04:13 amIs it just me, or is Leona's arm gets chunky all of the sudden near the end of the GIF animation?lol yeah i peeped that "pop eye" shit too haha
yaret said, December 19, 2014, 08:46:02 pmDude, don't fucking do that come on. If the person has an update about a project, they'll post it here. Don't be impatient/obnoxious.
id suggest changing her small portrait or modify a bit since its her '99 portraithere's mine that i use on ZSLeona
