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#1  November 16, 2013, 09:43:23 am
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Extremely basic title says it all.

Questions:
-Why does the community (most of it at least) hate on Warehousing Mugen content?
-Is Warehousing okay if credit is given to creators?
-Theoretically wouldn't warehousing benefit mugen users? (It helps creations from going offline)
-Do you support Warehousing? And why?
-Do you not support Warehousing? And why?
-Are you a Warehouser?
-Do you think Warehousing will ever become "mainstream" in the Mugen Guild community?
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#2  November 16, 2013, 09:53:29 am
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-Gonna assume it's because sometimes credit isn't given also I suppose it also has to do with outdated versions floating around as well as new ones. I remember something about a lot of outdated versions of MOT's stages floating around.
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-Sometimes, it's good to host stuff that's offline and hard to find anywhere else but then there's the whole old version issue I mentioned. Sure you're hosting something offline but maybe it's an older version that's inferior to the most recent one.
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-Probably has? I've seen a lot of sites that do it, hell MFFA pretty much runs on that.
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#3  November 16, 2013, 09:56:26 am
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I don't think there's much hate for warehousing anymore. But maybe that's just me, I dunno.
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#4  November 16, 2013, 09:59:42 am
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IMO, the attitude these days is 'We all know MFFA is a thing and some of us just like pretending it isn't.'
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#5  November 16, 2013, 10:05:29 am
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Ok, let me rephrase what I meant when I said "become "mainstream" in the Mugen community?" I meant the Guild community, not the Mugen community as a whole. I'll update the first post.
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#6  November 16, 2013, 10:07:45 am
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The same applies.
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#7  November 16, 2013, 10:14:33 am
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In what aspect? When you compare the Guild to something like MFFA or even the M.U.G.E.N. wiki, the differences are obviously there.
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#8  November 16, 2013, 10:21:39 am
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Mostly people don't care. The only thing warehousing is rubbish for is if it's hosting online content. At which point everyone gets an outdated character if they don't head to the authors site.

Everything else can't be stopped and worrying about it isn't worth it. If it's online, get it from the official site. If it's offline, warehouse your life away, nobody can or will stop you.


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#9  November 16, 2013, 10:25:14 am
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In what aspect? When you compare the Guild to something like MFFA or even the M.U.G.E.N. wiki, the differences are obviously there.
Like... what?

Where are all the people getting their panties in a bunch about warehouses anymore?
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#10  November 16, 2013, 10:30:53 am
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I see what you're saying Cyanide.
And Jmorphman, I know it's not as big a deal as it used to be, I was just curious as to what some people's stances were on Warehousing today.
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#11  November 16, 2013, 10:40:06 am
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Well, I can tell for sure that the people at IMT are still hating warehouses.
They hate warehouses so much that they even forbid to post links to warehouses.
You actually get a real warning there, if you do post a link to a warehouse.
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#12  November 16, 2013, 10:41:59 am
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The unspoken truth is that we all searched in mugen warehouses for stuff we wanted but couldn't find any where else, some of us ask for it first at request threads others (like me) just google the damn rare thing and get it from any where on planet earth, just imagine with me, your favorite character is created but long ago and the author site is down and no one has it but you want it so much that you can't imagine your roster without it, then a small google search revealed the creation warehoused somewhere, will you just go and get it or will you think that warehousing is wrong?
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#13  November 16, 2013, 10:49:05 am
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Warehousing is no big deal. I'm not sure about years ago and what not, but I guess (it's common knowledge now) that if you don't want your stuff to be whored around, don't upload your stuff.

For anyone who does use warehouses (and I'm sure most all of us has done at least once), proceed with caution. I can understand why they exist (and there are benefits), but it's best to download the creations from the host (after all, they created the work).
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#14  November 16, 2013, 10:56:14 am
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MFFA is awesome and I don't give a damn what anyone says.

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Well, I can tell for sure that the people at IMT are still hating warehouses.
They hate warehouses so much that they even forbid to post links to warehouses.
You actually get a real warning there, if you do post a link to a warehouse.
You can thank Kung_Fu_Ash for that policy. Surprised it didn't die out with his departure.
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#16  November 16, 2013, 11:23:38 am
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Warehouses of the past like Streetmugen made me wanting to get more characters and know more about how its all done and find a community behind this "mugen thing" i bet many other people found their way through warehouses to the community as well. Including those which are an active and creative part of the community now.

I believe warehouses are a very good thing for Mugen and can only recommend to work with them since, like others mentioned..they host your creations and make them much easier to find. Working with them together, can also mean that they have the complate /best/whatever versions of your creations instead of the betas/incomplete stuff.

The "hating" warehouses stuff always looked childish and a bit stupid to me.
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#17  November 16, 2013, 01:28:42 pm
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I remember the days of old where we hate Warehouses with a passion.

Now, you do not see that anymore.

What is exactly the reason for the hate anyway? Unless if it is a bunch of hot-headed idiots losing their cool over such things, which made more idiots in turn, I do not see too much of a reason.
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#18  November 16, 2013, 01:31:13 pm
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Well, I can tell for sure that the people at IMT are still hating warehouses.
They hate warehouses so much that they even forbid to post links to warehouses.
You actually get a real warning there, if you do post a link to a warehouse.
People still hate warehouses? ._.
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#19  November 16, 2013, 02:43:07 pm
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Well, I can tell for sure that the people at IMT are still hating warehouses.
They hate warehouses so much that they even forbid to post links to warehouses.
You actually get a real warning there, if you do post a link to a warehouse.
People still hate warehouses? ._.
Well, I'm not really surprised there, because there are also people who still believe in permissions... >_>
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-Why does the community (most of it at least) hate on Warehousing Mugen content?
I think that it's alright just as long as the creation has zero chance of being updated. It only gets bad if a very recent creation gets warehoused.

-Is Warehousing okay if credit is given to creators?
As long as nobody claims the creation as their own and that proper credit is given, then it's alright.

-Theoretically wouldn't warehousing benefit mugen users? (It helps creations from going offline)
Depends on the creation. Some stuff are best left alone to die.

-Do you support Warehousing? And why?
-Do you not support Warehousing? And why?
I don't support really support it not because it's bad or anything, but because SOME people like taking other people's hard work and call it as their own. Those people have a special place in hell. I guess it's alright if you're not that kind of person.

Ehh, i'm neutral.

-Are you a Warehouser?
Fuck no, how will I manage other people's creations if I don't even know where my own creations are in my PC.



-Do you think Warehousing will ever become "mainstream" in the Mugen Guild community?
No.



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#21  November 16, 2013, 04:04:59 pm
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I would be happy if there were offline creations warehouse or mugen oldies library with offline creations, who know what I would find I dont know about.
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#22  November 16, 2013, 04:28:12 pm
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In the past, warehousing was a bad thing, mostly because the "hosted" creations were already available in creators' websites, and even more, those guys just copypasted links from those websites instead just hosting in their own websites (or uploading in DD servers like 4shared, MediaFire, MU and esnips). That was a way to unrespect creators in that tima and even still now in the case of japanese creators (until 2013, I'm still reading jap sites that say "don't hotlinking nor warehouing or I'll remove the char/stage/etc"). That was why this theme was so punished in those days...

Now no one cares about warehousing mostly because now the MUGEN players are more informed and knows more about creations so they go the creators' websites to download, instead before where the motto was "I want that char, no matter who did it or where I can find it". Actually warehouses are useful to find MUGEN stuff that's mostly offline and you can't find using Request thread in MUGEN forums. They're still something like taboo (I can compare them with emulation websites) but it's a good search if you want something that no one even remember but you ;)
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#23  November 16, 2013, 04:33:25 pm
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I forgot that people didn't like this, even though without warehousing a lot of offline creations would be lost to the sands of time forever. I think its a nonissue.
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#24  November 16, 2013, 10:08:15 pm
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Oh right. Hotlinking is ALWAYS bad though. If the warehouse hotlinks it's filth. If it uploads them elsewhere or to its own space, yeah sure. Hotlinking though, no go away.


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#25  November 16, 2013, 10:17:07 pm
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I'm personally still opposed to warehousing, but it's always going to happen so I don't go out of my way to bitch about it or anything.

Though to be honest, while I was still a newbie I did browse Mugen Depot and Esnips a bit without realizing that those actually were warehouses, and I was one of those kids with roster videos looking for trades on Youtube. Man, I'm thankful this isn't June/July 2007 anymore. :dead:
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#26  November 16, 2013, 10:26:41 pm
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Everyone here made some good points.

I think this will always be up for debate because first of all, everyone will always be looking for that obscure or offline character. That's where Warehousing comes in. Nunor's Database has the right idea, and if you break things down, warehousing is really the same extent, just with things usually housed on-site.

Where warehousing gets a bad rap is hotlinking, and also posting links/copies of things that the creator specifically asked to be removed in the first place. and that's where the problem lies. While an author may want his work taken down for whatever reason, there's always going to be someone who wants something bad enough to go through whatever means to find it. That's probably where the idea came from to begin with.

I personally don't see a problem with warehousing. I've come across a lot of stuff through MFFA and I think they have a good thing going on there.
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#27  November 16, 2013, 10:40:32 pm
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I used to be against warehousing but now I'm neutral about it. It's becoming a good purpose for archiving files from past Mugen websites that are no longer online.
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#28  November 16, 2013, 10:43:02 pm
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I used to be against warehousing but now I'm neutral about it. It's becoming a good purpose for archiving files from past Mugen websites that are no longer online.

Pretty much, this is the actual purpose of Warehousing.
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#29  November 17, 2013, 03:32:06 pm
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Honestly i don't really care about warehousing considering when you upload something to internet people can do what ever the hell they want to do with the file. Plus sometimes i go searching for mugen stuff from them anyway so they can be a big help.
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#30  November 17, 2013, 04:27:46 pm
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I'll say this for the old War On Warehousing: tracking down obscure characters was a lot more fun in those days  :laugh3: It was a real treasure hunt!

I never really understood the hostility when all I was trying to do was find more characters to add, since that was the whole point of Mugen after all.  I think what I didn't really appreciate then was just how much time and effort the better creators put into their work, slaving to get the details just right.  To spend countless hours updating, tweaking, polishing and debugging a character/stage/etc takes motivation - you have to care about giving people the best experience possible.  If that's something you care strongly about then the idea that people might still be downloading crappy old versions of your work, from unknown sources and in unknown numbers... well, it can be frustrating, to put it mildly.

It's just something you have to accept though.  What's always been obvious is that there's nothing you can do about it, other than try and make your official version the most obvious and accessible version so that people will find it first, more often than not.

I was surprised someone mentioned that IMT have such a problem with it though.  I believe they include a version of VSelect with one of their screenpacks - which I'm completely fine with, it's an honour - but no-one ever asked me for permission  ;P
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#31  November 17, 2013, 05:28:27 pm
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I dont care about warehousing. Most old characters have better versions now. Character creation is so easy now that you can just make your own stuff if you have the resources. Request threads take care of the rest. Its one of those old days pointlessly hated things that most people probably dont care about anymore.

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Our site actually tries to stay up to date for the most part.

And warehouse ppls stuff for petty/spiteful reasons and when its already online at the original authors site just to steal traffic.

Warehouses are a joke....

Hosting offline content I dont consider warehousing, its more like Archiving.
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I warehouse my own creations, does that make me a bad guy?
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Our site actually tries to stay up to date for the most part.

And warehouse ppls stuff for petty/spiteful reasons and when its already online at the original authors site just to steal traffic.

Warehouses are a joke....

Hosting offline content I dont consider warehousing, its more like Archiving.

We never warehouse online stuff by hosting them on our own server/mirrors. We always linked them to the author site. Sure there's few people doing that (mirroring online stuff) but usually just some cheesy noobs (whoops).


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I beg to differ but ok....
Also that first line was directed towards that sorry excuse of admin at your forum, and he knows why...
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It's fucking Mugen, Jesus fucking christ it's just a piece of shit game engine why the fuck is this an issue.

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#41  November 19, 2013, 03:19:57 pm
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#42  November 19, 2013, 04:24:12 pm
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-Why does the community (most of it at least) hate on Warehousing Mugen content?

Depends on which "community" you're referring to. Imo, warehousing isn't an issue within the "global" mugen community, it's more of a localized stance within different sects. You're always going to have groups of people who are going to hunt down warehousers with torches and pitchforks (ie: IMT, most japanese creators) and then you're going to have groups who, on the whole, couldn't give two shits about warehousing (ie: MFG).

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Is Warehousing okay if credit is given to creators?

If by this you happen to be referring to old warehousers that would go out of their way to change every instance of the author's name in the content's files to their own then of course not, thats just a dick move. As long as credit is given I see no problem with it.

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-Theoretically wouldn't warehousing benefit mugen users? (It helps creations from going offline)

Archiving I have no issue with

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-Do you support Warehousing? And why?
-Do you not support Warehousing? And why?
-Are you a Warehouser?

I'm more neutral on the issue. As I said, archiving is fine and I have no problem with it. On the other hand, you have warehouses spilling out outdated versions of characters. Either way you look at it, its the nature of the beast; once you put something on the internet, its out there and its going to get warehoused whether you like it or not (unless you're Laxxe and you send them a cease & desist order for warehousing your Kirby but that's a different story)

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-Do you think Warehousing will ever become "mainstream" in the Mugen Guild community?

As far as mugen guild is concerned, it's technically not against any rules and afaik the staff doesn't really do anything about it as long as the links aren't blatantly spammed everywhere. Its more of a case-by-case basis depending on the individual author's stance on warehousing, but the staff don't really enforce anything for or against it if that's what you're asking, otherwise all the sigs linking to MFFA would have been removed by now.

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No not at all.
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#46  November 19, 2013, 07:05:02 pm
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Yeah im glad it doesnt concern me cause it sounds totally pointless but instead of being a douche and trying to bait some dumb drama feud you could do something more fulfilling
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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#47  November 19, 2013, 07:48:43 pm
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As well as you assuming stuff you do not have a single clue about.

Piss off...
Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#48  November 19, 2013, 08:07:04 pm
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I know you have a personal feud with Ryon, but please Syn, please not here.
Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#49  November 19, 2013, 08:09:20 pm
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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#50  November 19, 2013, 08:09:38 pm
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#51  November 19, 2013, 08:13:49 pm
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@Umezono:

We've talked fairly civil in the past, and since I don't know much else about you, I'll just give you the benefit of the doubt ... but I've got to agree with Syn about staying off of this, because you're doing exactly what you're complaining about ...
being a douche and trying to bait some dumb drama feud

If Syn is successful of bringing up this feud, we'll have 1 long ass discussion ... with you, instigating this behaviour, we'll have 2 (100% more than the rest of us would have to endure)

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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#52  November 19, 2013, 08:23:07 pm
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Maybe if Syn didn't mention it in the first place? I was curious at to what he was talking about as well.
Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#53  November 19, 2013, 08:25:27 pm
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Giving single line mentions to some elaborate backstory that no one else seems to know about, and then complaining when people ask you what you're talking about and telling them to piss off is kind of the definition of flamebaiting.
Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#54  November 19, 2013, 08:29:10 pm
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@Umezono:

We've talked fairly civil in the past, and since I don't know much else about you, I'll just give you the benefit of the doubt ... but I've got to agree with Syn about staying off of this, because you're doing exactly what you're complaining about ...
being a douche and trying to bait some dumb drama feud

If Syn is successful of bringing up this feud, we'll have 1 long ass discussion ... with you, instigating this behaviour, we'll have 2 (100% more than the rest of us would have to endure)



All I was trying to point out he was acting like a dismissive dick seemingly at random. Got no intention of dealing with someone like that after that other guy blew up on me. Nor am I interested in figuring out his dark past. But my point stands.
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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#55  November 19, 2013, 08:29:42 pm
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Man whatever, Only one person asked and I answered, and you have another one spoutin shit about nothing he knows about and making stupid assumptions and got put in his place, and now here come you with your captian save a ho lookin ass...

Man you staff are a fuckin joke..

I said my piece about warehousing and my experiences, simple as that.
That is what this topic is about, well then, Deal with it.
Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#56  November 19, 2013, 08:32:23 pm
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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#57  November 19, 2013, 08:34:25 pm
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and now here come you with your captian save a ho lookin ass...

Man you staff are a fuckin joke..
What I gather from this is:
a) You're referring to Mgbenz, because of his nickname (to which he kinda has a point)
2. You don't respect Jmorphman's authority, because he's the only staff posting in this thread, and he CAN ban your moody ass.

You really need to chill. You've been around long enough to be respected, if you didn't have such a motherfucking SHIT attitude.

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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#58  November 19, 2013, 08:37:06 pm
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Again I didnt make any assumptions about you other than the "child" thing which you continually prove. And hey if youre into putting men in their place I really cant judge you, I am a tolerant guy.
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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#59  November 19, 2013, 08:38:37 pm
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Well hold on, there's no reason to be talking about bans right now. Let's simmer down folks.
Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#60  November 19, 2013, 08:45:11 pm
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Are you warehousing my Mugen characters Oxe?

Because if you are we're gonna have a fucking problem dirtbag. >:(
I really just fucking hate people acting like children over such petty shit
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#61  November 19, 2013, 09:00:02 pm
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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#62  November 19, 2013, 09:27:34 pm
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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#63  November 19, 2013, 09:44:28 pm
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I heard the Hanson mud wrestling event was here! Man I've been a big fan of them since I was twelve, and to see all those pretty blonde boys get down in the mud is making me e-

... Oh it's just a bunch of girls fighting each other. Damn you, Facebook.
Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#64  November 19, 2013, 09:48:43 pm
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Wrong topic?

Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#65  November 19, 2013, 09:50:24 pm
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Nah, he trying to be a funny troll...
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#66  November 19, 2013, 09:51:29 pm
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Never said anything about Laharl....
What in the hell are you talking about?
SyN, as friends, I've always been good with you, but you're a grown individual and you know better than this. You have to move on with your past grudges with certain individuals and just let this go man.

Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#67  November 19, 2013, 09:52:22 pm
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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#68  November 19, 2013, 09:55:17 pm
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If both sides just stopped the petty squabble as a whole there wouldn't be that much of a problem
Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#69  November 19, 2013, 09:57:59 pm
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@Syn I know about the issue you had with ryon Im sorry he did that to you but you don't have to mock the site as a whole cause of the admin.
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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#70  November 20, 2013, 02:39:54 am
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I personally don't see any problem with warehousing. I think the problem with warehousing back then was that people were much more possessive of their own work, so they didn't like having their works warehoused.
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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#71  November 20, 2013, 02:50:23 am
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Most of said creators conformed to the lax rules, the rest are still being digested in Lugia's belly.
Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#72  November 20, 2013, 02:59:46 am
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godfuckingdammit jango why
Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#73  November 20, 2013, 03:11:34 am
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#74  November 20, 2013, 04:00:47 am
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Re: Let's talk about Warehousing Mugen content.
#75  November 20, 2013, 05:53:21 am
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Actually, Jmorph, I helped make that Lugia. Still, I wasn't offended at all by the joke.
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