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Started by AxKingsXRevengeX, November 04, 2012, 11:38:33 am
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#101  November 18, 2012, 05:54:38 am
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...20 here, pretty sure I got it.

I'm not saying the voice actor is the problem.  I'm saying the particular voice that makes Aladdin is the problem.  It's not Link's voice.

If you're settled to go ahead with it, then by all means.  I'm just suggesting to keep to the game's own materials before bringing in outside sources.
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#102  November 18, 2012, 05:59:14 am
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aladdin's voice doesn't sound that specific and if it's limited to short lines and grunts i don't think it should be an issue
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#103  November 18, 2012, 06:08:40 am
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DIdn't Link talk in Skyward Sword?  I swear he did. 
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#104  November 18, 2012, 06:16:55 am
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Also if it doesn't work out, it's not like it is impossible to update, not to mention that someone might even do a voice pack before I make an update to smash bros Link voice to.

As for the nobility comment earlier....                                 

Link is here charged with the following crimes!

*Breaking and entering private property (walking in house to house)                 

*theft (missing rupees and broken jars)

*animal abuse (killing chicken livestock)

*acts of terrorism (wall bombings within town limits)

*kidnapping (Princess Zelda in a Link to the Past)

*Vandalism (town crates & Lawn damage)



"HOW DO YOU PLEA???"                                         


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#105  November 18, 2012, 06:28:32 am
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...None of those were the insults that I mentioned, though.  The point being is that he doesn't belittle or mock his opponent.  He's quick, quiet, precise and deadly.  Aladdin....isn't.

But that doesn't matter, you went on and mentioned that you were just sticking to little grunts.  Still does not sit well with me, but it is what it is and it's what you want, we'll see how it turns out when it's done.
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#106  November 18, 2012, 10:25:20 am
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Okay, kicks are now complete for standing



and then all 3 together



Just the crouching attacks and aerial moves remain.

Then it's the special attacks and hypers.

Then I'll go back and add the final detail and shield, and with that develop blocking animations from that.

That should be about it after all that.
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#107  November 18, 2012, 10:57:50 am
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The first attack looks a bit strange, even if it used at the end after the other two animations, maybe you should add some more frames to it. ö.ö
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#108  November 18, 2012, 01:57:03 pm
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Hate to dredge this up again, but I think using Aladdin's voice for Link is a terrible idea and you should stick to the voice he used for the games.

Seriously, I can understand why you want to do your own thing, but there are times when you need to listen to people. And listen to me when I say you're making a genuine mistake here. So far, every criticism aimed at you has been brushed aside with some long-winded explanation that's only tangientally related to the criticism, just so you can keep doing your own thing, and that's a bad sign in my book. Sometimes, you have to listen to those who comment and make changes based on what they say, and even if you don't like the changes you still have to make them or your character will be worse off for it.  I was quiet when you refused to give Link his shield and made him wield the sword two-handed (which I still don't agree with - Link only ever wielded the Biggoron Sword two-handed, and this is clearly the Master Sword he's wielding), but the desicion to use a different voice for him is just mind-boggling.

In short, don't use the Aladdin voice. Use the Link voice. Either his Brawl one or his Skyward Swrd one. But it has to be Link's voice.

Apart from that, the character looks promising and I wish you luck with it.
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#109  November 18, 2012, 02:32:25 pm
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I swear this attack changes the dimensions of the Master Sword twice. Somewhere in the middle of the thrust, the sword seems to get a lot wider for a frame, and then immediately shift back

And actually, taking a close look at the sword, it seems all the sword sprites have a more katana-ish shape to them, whereas the Master Sword came to a double-sloped end. That and the little bump just a small bit above the hilt seems to be missing. Just minor nitpicks, because this project still looks good overall, but I felt that (if somebody hasn't already said it :P) it needed to be brought up
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#110  November 18, 2012, 03:44:54 pm
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I swear this attack changes the dimensions of the Master Sword twice. Somewhere in the middle of the thrust, the sword seems to get a lot wider for a frame, and then immediately shift back

And actually, taking a close look at the sword, it seems all the sword sprites have a more katana-ish shape to them, whereas the Master Sword came to a double-sloped end. That and the little bump just a small bit above the hilt seems to be missing. Just minor nitpicks, because this project still looks good overall, but I felt that (if somebody hasn't already said it :P) it needed to be brought up

I'm trying not to deviate from the base, which sadly just so happens to be a lightsaber, not a sword :p

However, I will be making a major touch up update for the release. I may just tackle this issue and make the correction.

The first attack looks a bit strange, even if it used at the end after the other two animations, maybe you should add some more frames to it. ö.ö

There are a bunch of after images that were separate from the basics, perhaps I'll need to include those to add the additional frame? I'll look into it, thanks for bringing it up.
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#111  November 18, 2012, 07:20:29 pm
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Hate to dredge this up again, but I think using Aladdin's voice for Link is a terrible idea and you should stick to the voice he used for the games.

Seriously, I can understand why you want to do your own thing, but there are times when you need to listen to people. And listen to me when I say you're making a genuine mistake here. So far, every criticism aimed at you has been brushed aside with some long-winded explanation that's only tangientally related to the criticism, just so you can keep doing your own thing, and that's a bad sign in my book. Sometimes, you have to listen to those who comment and make changes based on what they say, and even if you don't like the changes you still have to make them or your character will be worse off for it.  I was quiet when you refused to give Link his shield and made him wield the sword two-handed (which I still don't agree with - Link only ever wielded the Biggoron Sword two-handed, and this is clearly the Master Sword he's wielding), but the desicion to use a different voice for him is just mind-boggling.

In short, don't use the Aladdin voice. Use the Link voice. Either his Brawl one or his Skyward Swrd one. But it has to be Link's voice.

Apart from that, the character looks promising and I wish you luck with it.

I agree abit with this what steel komodo said like people are giving you great criticism to hep you omprove and make your link great. They're not trying to be mean or anything they just wanna help like link's voice I don't alddin's voice should work maybe samurai jack's or seigfried's since they are both very humble and noble characters. Also for people asking about link holding the shied I don't honestly mind if link holds the sheld or not. I think since link isn't holding the sheild you should have his stance more like him hold his sword with both hands cuz the stance you have now with him looks very akward and unorthodox for anyone to hold a sword like that. Here's any image to give you an idea for link's stance also for the shield you can use it as offensive attacks. example, would be like how sophia, cassandra, patrokloa and pyrrha and omega pryya use they're shields offensive attacks like for their throws,sweeps, aerial attcks,etc.
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#112  November 18, 2012, 10:12:28 pm
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#113  November 19, 2012, 12:53:08 am
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I would stay with the Super Smash Bros. Melee sounds or Soul Caliber 2. Probably Soul Caliber 2 sense it sounds better and will fit your character. I liked his voice on there, because it fits a fighting game unlike melee (no offense) has been used by so many creators. Here is my 2 cents do not make him talk its a bad idea Link is Link, he never talked and he never will.
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Even on there he didn't talk with his intros, and he didn't say a word to Raphael on there either. So... thats my 2 cents.
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#114  November 19, 2012, 01:44:26 am
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I would stay with the Super Smash Bros. Melee sounds or Soul Caliber 2. Probably Soul Caliber 2 sense it sounds better and will fit your character. I liked his voice on there, because it fits a fighting game unlike melee (no offense) has been used by so many creators. Here is my 2 cents do not make him talk its a bad idea Link is Link, he never talked and he never will.
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Even on there he didn't talk with his intros, and he didn't say a word to Raphael on there either. So... thats my 2 cents.

It still sounds like an Asian guy not making any sense. I can respect the disagreement, but this is going to be an artist interpretation, like the MvC MegaMan X release. I like the feedback I am getting, but I am just so sure of this move, he's gonna have a new voice. It's gonna be interesting without a doubt and that's always good and perhaps even improved.

If it doesn't work out, it can be altered as stated before, anything can be updated/altered.
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#115  November 19, 2012, 02:39:48 am
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#116  November 19, 2012, 03:11:44 am
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It still sounds like an Asian guy
It was a Asian guy name Nobuyuki Hiyama who is from Japan and did many voice acting for animes and games, of course it sounds Asian.



Right, but Link isn't exactly Asian, he's some type of elf like guy based on European folklore and culture, he needs to be Euro, not Asian. The asian guy who did the voice did very well, but I like to give this Link a Western twist to appear more European. The actor still sounds Asian despite his best efforts and it still doesn't complete the Link picture, granted it was a good filler for the time being.

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I feel that his new voice will reinvent Link's character, and maybe offer something more. Besides there are all ready Links out there that have those sounds, and ther is another one coming out, which will likely use those sounds to.

The more reason to do something a little bit different, it may very well be pleasing to the ear.

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#117  November 19, 2012, 06:45:01 am
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Im so glad your making this char again, and on the voice it doesn't really matter to me  I play with the sound off anyway with my own music.
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#118  November 19, 2012, 09:33:10 am
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#119  November 19, 2012, 11:48:11 am
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Tri-Force attack???

I thought about using the Tri-Force attack, the idea is to have Link dawn some Tri-Force armor and do a sword slash beam, not unlike Krauser's Kaiser Wave, from a Tri-Force sword, as a level 3 Hyper attack?

I may or may not include this however, I insist on only 3 hypers every per character, however, Link isn't really going to be a Marvel or Dc thing so maybe he can be that special exception, well anyway I just wanted to share this idea.

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#120  November 19, 2012, 11:57:42 am
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I don't recall Link transforming into gold armor.  Unless it's from Skyward Sword then I'd have no clue.

If you need any transformation, why not use the Fierce Deity/Oni?  Your Link fits more along the lines of the Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask Link, where he originates from.  Plus using a more recognizable face might be nice. (Does help that as far as I can recall, Fierce Deity is likely the strongest, most powerful thing from any Zelda game)

Of course, that's heading in a rather different direction that what you've already done with that armor.  For what it is, it looks nice.  Just confusing me why he has it.
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