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#1  December 06, 2013, 02:03:00 am
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Fofai aka LM_ Maverick contacted the staff. He's been using the alternate account now for 5 months without incident and is wishing to return back to Guild using his proper account so he may announce releases, etc. Some of you will know why he was banned. Those that do not, it is not very important now. We're moving ahead.

Due to the amount of time he has been absent, how long he's been incognito, and without incident the Moderation Staff has agreed to allow him back. Iced should be merging his accounts shortly. He is on a strict probation period. We expect him to be a "normal" user, however this is also a blanket warning for those that may wish to poke, harass, bully him or whatever. If the staff feels anyone is attempting to make him regress or anything of the sort there will be potential penalties. Maverick is encouraged to PM any mod he chooses if he feels harassed.

On that note, we welcome Maverick back to Guild and hope he goes far.
Last Edit: December 06, 2013, 02:48:22 am by Just No Point
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#2  December 06, 2013, 02:11:04 am
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As long as what happened previously doesn't happen again, I am OK with this.
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#3  December 06, 2013, 08:44:12 am
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I had a feeling Fofai was Maverick... seeing the recent model he posted clarified that.

If I remember correctly, he got into a little (heated) discussion with S.D. (nothing malicious) in the EF-12 thread without completely losing his lid (not sure if that would've been the case a year ago). I have no problem with Mav (formally) returning.
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#4  December 06, 2013, 08:53:37 am
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As long as what happened previously doesn't happen again, I am OK with this.

It won't trust me. Thanks for the welcome and I'm guessing not everyone is too happy about this news.

I had a feeling Fofai was Maverick... seeing the recent model he posted clarified that.

If I remember correctly, he got into a little (heated) discussion with S.D. (nothing malicious) in the EF-12 thread without completely losing his lid (not sure if that would've been the case a year ago). I have no problem with Mav (formally) returning.

yeh I was trying like hell to diffuse that as quickly and as quietly as possible without incident. But yeah 5 months without problems using a alternate account.
Last Edit: December 06, 2013, 08:58:39 am by LM_FO
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#5  December 06, 2013, 08:57:30 am
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#6  December 06, 2013, 09:36:43 am
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Welcome back,Maverick.
I was wondering where you ran off to :P
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#7  December 06, 2013, 09:44:19 am
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Ok so this guy was banned and made an alternate account to avoid his ban and wants his main account back? Why is this ok? Because he's been behaving under a false name?

I wouldn't consider that a infinite since you have to make your opponent bounce of the wall and if you do it on the wrong side of the stage the stage interaction would activate.
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#8  December 06, 2013, 09:46:08 am
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The last time Maverik was on this forum, he was incredibly insulting, disruptive, arrogant, conceited, and an all around terrible poster and human being. He claimed to be better and smarter than literally every single Mugen contributor, active or otherwise. He repeatedly displayed a complete lack of respect for this entire community.

He was the source of many 10-20 page long thread derailments where he claimed to "shit" on users and their work, often totally unprovoked. Once he was permanently banned from MFG, after numerous second chances and short bans, he went straight to MI where he made several malicious attack threads, including one post that was linked to me by a friend where he used real pictures of myself and Rajaa and labeled us pedophiles. I understand you can't let what happens on other forums influence decisions here, but that is the type of person he is.

He pretended to have reformed several times the last time he was around. Please go back and reread all of the flame wars this guy caused and all of the second chances he was given and rethink this decision. Other permabanned users who were not nearly as personally insulting or wildly disruptive were shown no tolerance for alt accounts or ban evasion. After all that Maverik was guilty of, with ban evading now added to that list, I just don't see how this is a good idea. At all.

Some people may accuse me of being unable to leave things in the past or being petty or something like that, but I felt this needed to be said. This is not meant to poke him or prod him or any of that, just meant as a reminder of what he's capable of and how detrimental he was to this community.
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#9  December 06, 2013, 10:17:37 am
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That's some crazy shit right there... this is why I don't like to share opinions until I know more (I really should listen to my own advice a little more).

Regardless if Mav has changed for the better, some things don't just get brushed aside (so I don't blame you). I also think 5 months is a bit too soon, but that's besides the point.

I don't like to tell people how they should feel, so I'll just say that everyone (himself included) knows he's on a very short leash. If the moment something happens, they'll pull the plug quick (I hope).
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#10  December 06, 2013, 10:20:13 am
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Oh well....

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PS: "On that note, we welcome Maverick back to Guild and hope he goes far."

Guess i should have made an alt account when i was banned too if it is enough to behave good with a different identity.

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#11  December 06, 2013, 10:42:53 am
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Yeah I figured I'd get this reaction.

 Thanks to those able to welcome me and to the mods that allowed me back.
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#12  December 06, 2013, 10:59:50 am
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#13  December 06, 2013, 11:14:18 am
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I was involved with/ read everything Mav said here and MI. As long as there is no incident he can stay. I don't believe in permabans. It would take but a second to ban him again. I'm sure if he's banned again it will be for good. This was not a unanimous decision for the staff. But a greater majority didn't mind giving him one last shot.
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#14  December 06, 2013, 11:22:17 am
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His last ban was after many, many shorter bans where someone always said "If he acts up again, it will be for good." I think you're also setting an unhealthy precedent as far as allowing ban evasions goes.

I'm not going to get into a long discussion about this, as I've said pretty much everything I need to say. I want to add one more thing, though. Now that the accounts have been merged, I encourage anyone not familiar with Maverik to read some of his post history from before he was "permabanned." Take this for example, from his very last post:

The majority of you are a bunch of dense cunts that should be put down like sick dogs.
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#15  December 06, 2013, 11:29:29 am
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sean you are trying TOO hard man. Just give this a month and see what unfolds. The others can so why don't you.
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#16  December 06, 2013, 11:47:09 am
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Sean I understand your concern, Mav knows he will have to make up in terms of dealing with others to regain lost trust, we talked a bit before, and thats why he's in the whole probation thing.


I rather give him a chance since he admits his faults than just give him no chances, but we went to votes as well, and ofcourse we have an eye on him.

I hope things go smoothly and he manages to regain the trust we want to place on him. Let us sin by being too trust worthy than by being too non trustworthy if it needs to be.
Not long ago we tried the same for hjk and it failed then. We know that not always people improve, but mav expressed actual desire to improve and so we are trying to give him a chance.

Mav, more to the point maybe you should, i dunno pm some of the people you had problems before to talk with them and apologize, if you feel you didnt do the right thing it would make them more inclined to give you a chance.

Sincerely, your evil tyrant, Iced.
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#17  December 06, 2013, 12:12:18 pm
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sean you are trying TOO hard man. Just give this a month and see what unfolds. The others can so why don't you.

Two posts and a quote from the very first page of your post history does not equal trying too hard.

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I just don't get it. You were there. Plus, no one seems to be addressing the ban evasion issue and how this will make punishing people in the future for making alt accounts after being banned seem silly when you occasionally let people get away with it.

You guys do what you feel is right, whatever, I just wanted to make sure you all hadn't forgot what kind of person Maverik was and to make it clear that not everyone is okay with this. It is the feedback section, after all.

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#18  December 06, 2013, 12:16:41 pm
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Sean, the ban evasion in itself is not a terrible offence, it's only an aggravating circumstance if he acts up. What the staff cares about is whether shit happens or not, and the point here is that he apparently did get by without causing troubles for 5 months, incognito or not, ban evasion or not. The point in not banning him right now is that he has been capable of staying calm for 5 months. "If he never ever acts up again, then what's the problem ?" is what they're saying.
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#19  December 06, 2013, 12:34:27 pm
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sean you are trying TOO hard man. Just give this a month and see what unfolds. The others can so why don't you.

Two posts and a quote from the very first page of your post history does not equal trying too hard.

Well Much can be conveyed within 2 posts which is evident in yours. Just sit back and watch what happens for the next month.  I screw up, I'm done and have proven to the people here that have given me yet another chance that I can't be trusted not only that but it shows I can't even trust myself either.

@Iced

I think that might be the best option although I think it could be too late at this stage to rectify anything.




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#20  December 06, 2013, 12:44:29 pm
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Hey welcome back! I still remember how you were telling me that my stuff sucked in comparison to yours just because I used stuff that belonged to SNK while you made your own 3D models. Kinda funny how a year later I find myself working with an entire team of graphic and music artists making our very own game AND I'm even getting paid for it! Every time I think about my current situation reminds me of you and all the things you said to me :P

In any case I'm fine with this, haven't trolled anybody around here in like a year so I'll probably not going to have any issues with him. Besides his grammar is quite better! That should tell you something has changed. IMO, just give him another chance and let it flow. His past is already as tainted as it can be, if you can't put that in the past then just ignore DM and move on. If he fucks up he'll be gone for good.
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#21  December 06, 2013, 12:48:28 pm
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You guys aren't going to convince me of anything, mostly because you don't have to. He's already convinced the staff that he's worthy of another chance by paradoxically breaking the rules in order to prove that he's capable of not breaking the rules, so like I said, whatever. In the end, my opinion in this instance doesn't really matter. I'm just going to leave this alone now because the decision has already been made.
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#22  December 06, 2013, 12:54:22 pm
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You guys aren't going to convince me of anything, mostly because you don't have to. He's already convinced the staff that he's worthy of another chance by paradoxically breaking the rules in order to prove that he's capable of not breaking the rules, so like I said, whatever. In the end, my opinion on the matter doesn't really matter. I'm just going to leave this alone now because the decision has already been made.


Ok sean.

Hey welcome back! I still remember how you were telling me that my stuff sucked in comparison to yours just because I used stuff that belonged to SNK while you made your own 3D models. Kinda funny how a year later I find myself working with an entire team of graphic and music artists making our very own game AND I'm even getting paid for it! Every time I think about my current situation reminds me of you and all the things you said to me :P

In any case I'm fine with this, haven't trolled anybody around here in like a year so I'll probably not going to have any issues with him. Besides his grammar is quite better! That should tell you something has changed. IMO, just give him another chance and let it flow. His past is already as tainted as it can be, if you can't put that in the past then just ignore DM and move on. If he fucks up he'll be gone for good.


Very nice.

With that being said onwards to a new beginning.


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#23  December 06, 2013, 01:00:05 pm
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So what are you current plans then? Are you going to open a board inside the fullgame section for some game you're working on nowadays?
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#24  December 06, 2013, 01:08:52 pm
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So what are you current plans then? Are you going to open a board inside the fullgame section for some game you're working on nowadays?

No I'm going to resume progress in the same thread in the projects section. Then somewhere down the line I hope to produce work for the ef-12 engine.
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#25  December 06, 2013, 03:50:49 pm
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I just don't get it. You were there. Plus, no one seems to be addressing the ban evasion issue and how this will make punishing people in the future for making alt accounts after being banned seem silly when you occasionally let people get away with it.

People are punished for two reasons (and probably more, but I'm picking just two):

1.  To rehabilitate them.

2.  To keep them out of a community they are taking something away from instead of contributing to.

There is a huge difference between ban evasion to get back in to spam and cause trouble and ban evasion to get back in to contribute.  In my opinion (and the opinion of the majority of the staff).  Maverik seems to be rehabilitated and is contributing.  As long as it keeps up, he'll stay.

And yes I'm fully aware that there are members here who get by with breaking rules time after time with little consequence and others who will never be allowed back.  In a perfect world (or forum) the same procedure would be applied consistently to everyone.

With that being said onwards to a new beginning.

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#26  December 06, 2013, 03:52:49 pm
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#27  December 06, 2013, 05:20:24 pm
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Wait, LM_Maverick was allowed back to the forums? Why on earth?

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.
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#28  December 06, 2013, 05:22:54 pm
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#29  December 06, 2013, 05:23:59 pm
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#30  December 06, 2013, 05:28:03 pm
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Well he was an utter shithead for a good while. Im not sure just saying "im sorry" nicely (which is really effortless to do over then internet) should be enough.

But hey, up to you guys. Hope he can keep it civil.

Yeah, that works.

No witty quotes though.
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#31  December 06, 2013, 05:49:16 pm
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we are one step closer to allowing kfm back.

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#32  December 06, 2013, 06:23:56 pm
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Guys KFM here. I've been ban evading for 4 years in this account, and I would like to contribute stuff please forgive please.
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#33  December 06, 2013, 06:24:37 pm
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Mm? I thought it was normal that MBH refers to it as "punish". But maybe it's because I'm too used of it.

Me, I am neutral about this. I too know what Maverik has done in the past, but enough time has passed and his posts seem to indicate that he's really trying to improve, so I don't think it's bad that the staff has given him a second chance. He's not a total lost cause like other users I've seen, though like Sean, half of me believes he will blow up sooner or later after seeing past experiences. I really hope that in one month we can all say that was a good idea.
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#34  December 06, 2013, 06:30:17 pm
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if in one month mav has blown up and gotten banned in the same fashion as last time i reserve the right to call the entire modship "limp dicked pussies"
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#35  December 06, 2013, 06:54:04 pm
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If after a month he doesn't does the entire modship get to call you the same thing? :hump:

Ash is the only person I would never give another chance to. He was the most detrimental user the community had ever seen. It's one thing to call people names or act up on a forum and get second, third, million chances. It's another to attempt to control/destroy the entire community even outside of Guild.
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#36  December 06, 2013, 07:20:19 pm
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Anyone fill me in on what Ash did?
I remember he was still a poster when I was still new here.
I leave for a few months and he ended up doing some manipulative thing to get himself permabanned?
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#37  December 06, 2013, 07:27:00 pm
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Allowing mav back ... I mean allowing his original account back, cuz he never really left, was just a bad idea. I can't belive the majority of staff approved of this.
I wouldn't consider that a infinite since you have to make your opponent bounce of the wall and if you do it on the wrong side of the stage the stage interaction would activate.
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#38  December 06, 2013, 07:32:00 pm
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Would be cool to see these posts in the thread GBK posted, just to at least give him the chance to reply back since I doubt he knows people are talking about him in this thread.
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#39  December 06, 2013, 07:38:42 pm
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I'll just wait and see how things evolve. I too believe Maverik may end up blowing up in the end, as he has done several times in the past (this is not his 2nd chance, more like his 3rd or 4th). I just hope he doesn't, for I think his contributions are interesting and bring something fresh to the community.

PS : I just reread a log Titiln had compiled of everything that was said at MI. LOL.
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#40  December 06, 2013, 10:13:14 pm
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Welcome back Maverik! been following you from the shadows.
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#41  December 06, 2013, 10:20:46 pm
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we are one step closer to allowing kfm back.

haha. Gmods are so soft hearted right now. I kind of suspected he was Maverik in the TTT2 discussion, I saw that kind of Tekken "knowledge" before :P

But whatever, let´s see how things evolve. But this decision is something I´ve never seen before.
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#42  December 06, 2013, 10:29:42 pm
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I kind of suspected he was Maverik in the TTT2 discussion, I saw that kind of Tekken "knowledge" before :P
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#43  December 06, 2013, 10:43:10 pm
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if in one month mav has blown up and gotten banned in the same fashion as last time i reserve the right to call the entire modship "limp dicked pussies"

you are closer to being moderated than mav right now =|
how does this help in anyway.
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#44  December 06, 2013, 10:47:11 pm
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He´s procastinating. Probably Maverik will turn into an excellent member and he will never have to say that and you could ban him for 3 days. Probably not.
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#45  December 06, 2013, 11:05:05 pm
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as someone that was repeatedly involved in conflicts with maverick in the past, i don't really give a shit either way. worst case scenario he posts dumb shit and gets banned again. the idea of permabanned users being allowed back into the forum because "hey they had an alt account and didn't start shit for months is weird to me", although i see why some people would be fine with it, because it kind of makes sense and shows that that person might have changed for the better. maybe there could be a more formal channel for permabanned (or banned for like a year) users to get another chance after apologizing for their shitty behavior. some way to appeal bans. i don't know.

And yes I'm fully aware that there are members here who get by with breaking rules time after time with little consequence
you've been a gmod for years. i think that unless you've been actively fighting against this issue you should shut up about it.
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#46  December 06, 2013, 11:12:57 pm
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Would be cool to see these posts in the thread GBK posted, just to at least give him the chance to reply back since I doubt he knows people are talking about him in this thread.


Nope, I know they are talking about me. I expected nothing less after the unpopular decision to allow me back. Me replying will do absolutely nothing in this situation only time will. I could tell you I found jesus in the passed month or trained at a shaolin temple to better myself but all of that means nothing unless I prove it with my actions.
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#47  December 07, 2013, 12:14:04 am
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He´s procastinating. Probably Maverik will turn into an excellent member and he will never have to say that and you could ban him for 3 days. Probably not.
im not saying that anyone is getting banned im saying that at this point in time acting like that is showing worse conduct than the person he is complaining about =|
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I'm sorry I don't have too much time here, but what exactly did Maverik do? And Ash? And KFM?
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#51  December 07, 2013, 01:56:14 am
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KFM and Ash are the same person.
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#52  December 07, 2013, 01:58:12 am
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Alright, but what did he do?
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#53  December 07, 2013, 02:00:33 am
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For his case, I'm not really qualified to talk about it since I wasn't around much when he was active.

As for Maverik, I just feel that people can't let shit go. Yes, he's had several egotrips in the past and he was no stranger to it after being told himself.
But all the while I lost a lot of respect from other people during those incidents. I see a couple of figures here who are as guilty of bad behavior as he was for ganging up on him and starting shit on purpose after things looked pretty much alright.

Haven't we gone past all this bullshit? Can't we all just let it go and not try to call when he's gonna blow up next? That is seriously discouraging.
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#54  December 07, 2013, 03:19:58 am
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If he fucks up again good for you he's banned again, just let it go. It's like you guys want him to flip his shit again.
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#55  December 07, 2013, 03:30:54 am
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No matter what you guys say, it's all up to the staff, they said they'll let him back, stop complaining about what happened in the past, this is the present & future, if it's honestly that big of a deal just avoid saying anything to mav, and i doubt mav will say anything to you. it's not that hard to ignore a user. Saying "oh he's gonna blow up again" isn't going to change anything, the staff has faith that he won't do it again, so give him a chance, I'm sure if any of you were in his shoes you'd want people to give you a chance before judging you based on the past.

but that's just my 2cents so yeah.

Welcome back Mav, nice to see you back :)
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#56  December 07, 2013, 03:44:37 am
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In this particular instance, my only reaction is 'Yay, I don't have to check another site to see what Maverik's doing anymore!'

In general, though, I've administrated a few forums in the past and we've never found a good solution for this kind of thing. I also adopted the 'If you can sneak back in without me catching you and be productive for long enough before revealing yourself, you can stay' approach in most cases. I acknowledge that it's all SORTS of fucked up, but I've never come up with a better idea. It would be really really neat if someone could!
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#57  December 07, 2013, 04:18:09 am
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I can understand the grudge of certain people towards him thought. I´m in a "I don´t care" state of mind regarding this. We´ll see how this evolves.
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#58  December 07, 2013, 05:48:41 am
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Stuff about Kung-Fu Man.

I really do encourage people to lurk the history of MFG. When I'm not logged on posting, I usually look at the history of other users (mostly the ones that got the ban hammer) just to get an idea of how bad exciting this place can get.

In any event, I still have no issue with Maverik returning here (mostly because of my mindstate towards web forums and the internet in general). Let's see what happens.
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#59  December 07, 2013, 06:01:40 am
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After giving it some thought, I'll give Mav another chance as well. That said I do hope this doesn't end up setting a precedent for other perma-banned users to think they can take advantage of this and slip back in.
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#60  December 07, 2013, 09:09:45 pm
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I don't agree with this... all I know is that if it was done before followed by a few more times then I'm pretty sure  it will happen again, but whatever...
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#61  December 08, 2013, 02:55:58 pm
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A part of me feels that even if Da_Maverick does everything alright he'll still get some trouble with certain people, I mean we're in a forum where people can't ignore uche, segatron and drewski. If you can't ignore those 3 then I really doubt you can ignore DM coming back.
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#62  December 08, 2013, 04:17:18 pm
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people can't ignore uche, segatron and drewski because they constantly make bad posts
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#63  December 09, 2013, 04:29:41 am
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I can understand the grudge of certain people towards him thought. I´m in a "I don´t care" state of mind regarding this. We´ll see how this evolves.
Same here. I'm not agree with his comeback too, but if he really changed for good, I don't have any problem with that. As Aldo and some others said, let's see how evolves this