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Re: Looking For: Spriter
#21  November 05, 2014, 01:04:39 pm
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If you're like Scrooge Mcduck, you will get a spriter in no time.
But unfortunately Scrooge isn't here.

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Re: Looking For: Spriter
#22  November 05, 2014, 06:28:39 pm
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Jango Hakamichi said, November 05, 2014, 11:52:07 am
So instead of trying to get a spriter to work for you for free, you're now trying to make other people pay him. AND you still won't tell us what your game is even about.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA[/youtube]

I don't follow you? You think developers use Kickstarter for what? To pay for coffees?

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Re: Looking For: Spriter
#23  November 05, 2014, 06:33:26 pm
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What is the game called? Who are the characters? How many will there be? What are their move set? What type of gameplay with the fullgame have? What sprite style is to be used?





FeLo_Llop

Re: Looking For: Spriter
#24  November 05, 2014, 07:03:14 pm
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IN PROTUGUESE, So topic's author can understand it better.

Meu português não é o melhor aqui, mais, você não ficou imagem alguna dos desenhos dos chars. Depois, você diz que os sprites vai ser pagados uma vez o progeto comece a ter ventas(mais menos) ou uma fundrising...e o tempo dos caras? Eu, per exemplo, estou fazendo dois comisões e "tanto mostro, tanto recevo"...falar que os sprites vai ser pagados EM UM TEMPO não vai ser bom para o seu progeto...

Mostre os desenhos dos chars, fale da mecanica, etc...Mesmo assim algum spriter pode se interessar.

Last Edit: November 05, 2014, 10:41:08 pm by FeLo_Llop

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Re: Looking For: Spriter
#25  November 05, 2014, 07:44:31 pm
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Thanks Felo, I'm sure everyone is able to understand what you're saying. :P
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Jango Hakamichi

Re: Looking For: Spriter
#26  November 05, 2014, 07:54:20 pm
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BlizzKrut said, November 05, 2014, 06:28:39 pm
I don't follow you? You think developers use Kickstarter for what? To pay for coffees?
You're either ridiculously dense or ridiculously overestimating your capabilities.

Let's step back and have a look at it. You want to make a full game, but you're not telling us anything about it. We don't know the storyline, we don't know the characters, what they look like, we don't even know how the game is going to play!

And on top of all this, you want people to donate money, which at this point is probably better spent tearing it up and letting the wind carry it away. All we know is that it's a fighting game. Even Bebe's Kids had better marketing, and their tagline was "It's Animation!"

Oh and what's the money going to go towards? Paying a dude that you're too lazy to pay yourself. That's insulting on so many levels, especially for me, since I actually have commissioned spriters for characters. Too expensive? Learn to enjoy ramen noodles and budget yourself, that's what I did.

If you're not getting how horribly you're presenting your "game" after this, I don't know how to get you to understand.

FeLo_Llop

Re: Looking For: Spriter
#27  November 05, 2014, 10:42:27 pm
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Alex Sinigaglia said, November 05, 2014, 07:44:31 pm
Thanks Felo, I'm sure everyone is able to understand what you're saying. :P

up, you're right, davvero. I simply wrote it in Portuguese just in case he didn't understand what everyone told him in English :/

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Re: Looking For: Spriter
#28  November 05, 2014, 11:30:48 pm
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In what workd do you live to think that somebody is going to sprite for you given that :
1- You're not a known Mugen figure, so you have no credibility for now. You have no history, nobody knows if you're reliable. For all we know a spriter could spend hundreads of hours spriting a character so you can finally say "fuck it, I've spent 3 hours coding and I quit, it's too hard". Sorry, saying that you're motivated is no proof at all.
2- You're not willing to pay. No spriter is going to work for free on something that is not their project, especially for somebody they don't even know to begin with.
3- You still haven't said anything about this grand idea of yours. We all have great ideas in our heads, everyday. We're all great idea engineers. But if you want to prove that your idea is great, you have to start giving info about it. Name of the 4 main characters, background story, design of said characters, the whole universe they live in, what kind of sprites, how many animations, what kind of gameplay, how many buttons, what attacks for each character, special features, etc.

With point 2, you'd get anybody to join you, as long as you have a few thousand dollars to spare. With point 1, you'd probably get a spriter or two to join you for small projects. With point 3, at least people would start believing in your idea, even though you'd still get nobody to help you without point 1 or 2.

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Re: Looking For: Spriter
#29  November 06, 2014, 02:07:51 am
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I could sprite for free but this is the best i can do.
His name is the clit commander and if you want me
to join your team clit commander must be in it too.

these are my terms of service.

Sky79

Re: Looking For: Spriter
#30  November 06, 2014, 05:26:23 am
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First off, sorry for the cold reception you had thus far, most users aren't like some of these guys. In addition, there are proficient spriters, I am one of them. However, most will ask for more detailed info on said project before joining. If you're uneasy about talking about it in the thread, PM me. All info will remain personal and confidential.

Welcome to the forum.
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Re: Looking For: Spriter
#31  November 06, 2014, 05:30:27 am
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Memo

Re: Looking For: Spriter
#32  November 06, 2014, 05:42:30 am
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Jango Hakamichi

Re: Looking For: Spriter
#33  November 06, 2014, 09:09:11 am
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Sky79 said, November 06, 2014, 05:26:23 am
First off, sorry for the cold reception you had thus far, most users aren't like some of these guys. In addition, there are proficient spriters, I am one of them. However, most will ask for more detailed info on said project before joining. If you're uneasy about talking about it in the thread, PM me. All info will remain personal and confidential.

Welcome to the forum.
I am reveling in the irony of YOU of all people thinking we're being rude.

GentleOne

Re: Looking For: Spriter
#34  November 06, 2014, 09:55:00 am
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Actually, Sky's building up his hopes just to tell Blizz that he won't help him anyway.

I'm being sarcastic, but that's what's gonna happen, unfortunately.

BlizzKrut

Re: Looking For: Spriter
#35  November 06, 2014, 11:36:45 pm
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Jango Hakamichi said, November 05, 2014, 07:54:20 pm
BlizzKrut said, November 05, 2014, 06:28:39 pm
I don't follow you? You think developers use Kickstarter for what? To pay for coffees?
You're either ridiculously dense or ridiculously overestimating your capabilities.

Let's step back and have a look at it. You want to make a full game, but you're not telling us anything about it. We don't know the storyline, we don't know the characters, what they look like, we don't even know how the game is going to play!

And on top of all this, you want people to donate money, which at this point is probably better spent tearing it up and letting the wind carry it away. All we know is that it's a fighting game. Even Bebe's Kids had better marketing, and their tagline was "It's Animation!"

Oh and what's the money going to go towards? Paying a dude that you're too lazy to pay yourself. That's insulting on so many levels, especially for me, since I actually have commissioned spriters for characters. Too expensive? Learn to enjoy ramen noodles and budget yourself, that's what I did.

If you're not getting how horribly you're presenting your "game" after this, I don't know how to get you to understand.

I'm still trying to follow your reason as to what do you think Kickstarter is used to, I simply don't have the money, as millions of other developers don't, that's why they go through the route of Kickstarter.

I COULD talk about the game itself, if you would just give me some time and stop trying to tell me I should just save some millions for the game, yeah I spent some million that I had in my wallet for a coffee you see --'

GentleOne

Re: Looking For: Spriter
#36  November 07, 2014, 01:00:20 am
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I'll summarize Jango's point.

- You're asking people who likely don't have money to work on an idea you have, for free. That's not gonna fly
A DISTANT SECOND!
- You're asking for people's good will and asking them to do A LOT OF WORK for you without even telling them what the project is about.
- The least you could do is post about your progress in order to drum up what might be some good will. If you have nothing, you're not gonna be helped.

For consideration
Instead of repeatedly asking everyone whether or not you should elaborate on your idea, post about it. It might not do any good given the way the topic has been, but, meh.

I don't mean to be mean, but I understand where the cold responses are coming from, but AT LEAST you were up front about not paying.
Last Edit: November 07, 2014, 02:00:52 am by GentleOne

Jango Hakamichi

Re: Looking For: Spriter
#37  November 07, 2014, 01:51:42 am
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BlizzKrut said, November 06, 2014, 11:36:45 pm
I'm still trying to follow your reason as to what do you think Kickstarter is used to, I simply don't have the money, as millions of other developers don't, that's why they go through the route of Kickstarter.
There's one thing they have that you haven't got: credentials.

For example, Skullgirls' kickstarter was VERY successful because the developers already released the game and it had a significant following. Tim Schafer is a bad example these days, but his project got funded because he was responsible for being the mastermind behind Grim Fandango and Psychonauts (among other games). The Shantae kickstarter took off because Wayforward made a shitload of awesome games before that. And the Homestuck video game got $2 million because the comic is an internet phenomenon.

You, on the other hand have nothing but the promise that what you want to do is definitely a 2D fighter, a patronizing attitude to people who are (rightfully) criticizing this idea, and some weird-ass avatar. Good luck trying to get someone to fund you under those circumstances!

BlizzKrut said, November 06, 2014, 11:36:45 pm
I COULD talk about the game itself, if you would just give me some time and stop trying to tell me I should just save some millions for the game, yeah I spent some million that I had in my wallet for a coffee you see --'
That shouldn't even be an option, you SHOULD just be telling us upfront what the game is about and what to expect. I can't guarantee anyone will want to fund you after the way you've presented yourself in this thread (apologies to your coffee funds), but at least you would have gotten the bare minimum covered.

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Re: Looking For: Spriter
#38  November 07, 2014, 03:57:52 am
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you are acting needlessly defensive. you dont need to save millions for a game, but yes, spriting is a full time commitment that many people expect compensation for. most people who will put in time and effort to put out a quality product will want compensation. you may find a free spriter but unless the guys really passionate about this totally ambiguous idea you have, it will not be of the same quality as paid work.

also you are ridiculously misguided if you think a 4 character, basic alpha will net you a succesful kickstarter when established teams with entire portfolios can barely get theres off the ground. and judging by your philosophy on all this+ your lack of experience, id really question my faith in dropping money on a kickstarter for you
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Re: Looking For: Spriter
#39  November 07, 2014, 05:26:54 am
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tl'dr; Get yourself a good tutorial and start learning about Mugen, especially char making, make a few chars with your custom fighting style and only after that start thinking About making a full mugen game, which is what i'm (lazily) trying to do.
Btw its Mugen right? Can you even Kickstart a Mugen game?
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Re: Looking For: Spriter
#40  November 07, 2014, 05:29:56 am
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I don't think you can, you probably would have to give money to elecbyte who once again went m.i.a.

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