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Marvel Cinematic Universe: Strange is Benedict Cumberpatch!! (Read 107524 times)

Started by Iced, July 15, 2012, 03:54:44 am
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Strange is Benedict Cumberpatch!!
#1561  December 20, 2014, 11:13:23 pm
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See what I said earlier about Thor's origin movie : Thor gets depressed at two points in this movie - when he fails to lift the hammer, and then when he goes to sacrifice himself. Those moments are indeed defining moments for his character as a superhero, it's what gets him acknowledged as "worthy of the power of Thor".
But the thing is, they're not his whole being. for the near entirety of the movie, he's boasting, shouting, laughing, drinking. Not crying. And that's what Thor does and is (at least in the movie, I'm not much familiar with his comics).
Spiderman is similar : his biggest lesson, great powers and great responsibilities, came from losing uncle Ben. Then captain Stacy, and Gwen. But the thing is, those events happen over a lengthy period - and the rest of that period is full of his quirks and snappy comments and being funny. He cries every now and then because he's human, because he does have shit happening to him, but he doesn't cry all the time. In the movies, it's a pretty big percentage of what happens.
Garfield did a great attempt at showing that side of his character (in spite of crying when captain Stacy dies !) There were other bad / weird / stupid stuff in it, and I didn't see Amazing 2, but at least he definitely showed that side of Spiderman better than McGuire, who was just... slumped and hesitating all the time, even when he tried to make snarky comebacks, he was nearly whispering them and not putting his body into it. And that simply isn't what Spiderman is.
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#1562  December 21, 2014, 12:18:08 am
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But those brief moments of Spider-Man crying in the Sony movies are no more representative of the overall mood of the film(s) or of the character than those moments in Thor! I mean, it's not for nothing that the Spider-Man movies are always listed among the more joyous/bright/happy superhero movies (well, 4 out of the 5 movies, I've seen some complaints about Amazing 1 being too dreary)
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#1563  December 21, 2014, 12:45:52 am
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Well, crying aside...IF the deal happens, Marvel gets Spidey back, what do you think about them using Miles Morales instead? And Peter showing up just ocasionally--he's dead, I know, but w/e--I'd be kinda weird, they shouldn't start from the origin again, so what do you guys think they should do?
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#1564  December 21, 2014, 12:49:46 am
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I love miles but no, it would be like making dick grayson batman, or starting off with sam wilson as captain america it sorta limits your audience and leaves too much to be explained. Better to have him show up much much much later or not at all.
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#1565  December 21, 2014, 12:50:53 am
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I wouldn't like it. If Spider-Man's back in the fold, then Spider-Man's back in the fold. I don't want any substitute. If you make the decision to kill Peter later on down the line, then by all means use Miles. Or if you want to do a TV show... maybe. I'd still prefer Peter in that case.
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#1566  December 21, 2014, 02:08:51 am
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Dc and marvel are essentially different kinds of universe and ficiton, superman and batman dont have "potential" they have powers.

Negative, neither of them have "powers".

Batman trained his body and mind for 20+ years.

Kal-El has the same abilities anyone else from his home planet would have on earth.

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#1567  December 23, 2014, 02:02:33 am
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#1568  December 23, 2014, 02:20:21 am
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I think the only thing I've seen him in is MiB3 as Colonel WillSmith'sDad. He seems to have been on the Good Wife since the beginning so I'm assuming he's a good actor, so seems like a good choice to me.
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#1569  December 23, 2014, 04:54:38 am
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And now for another presentation of "Directors who did good stuff in the past and have, of late, fallen off quite a bit, complain about modern superhero movies in an absurdly hypocritical, amazingly non-self-aware manner"; our last episode featured Batman (Returns) director Tim Burton, and for tonight we have Lord of the Rings (and sadly, The Hobbit trilogy) director Peter Jackson:
Peter Jackson said:
I don't really like the Hollywood blockbuster bandwagon that exists right now. The industry and the advent of all the technology, has kind of lost its way. It's become very franchise driven and superhero driven.
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#1570  December 23, 2014, 05:10:41 am
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Tim Burton said:
“Yes, we all know that superheroes are damaged individuals. Maybe we need to see a happy superhero?”
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Tim Burton said:
“Maybe we need to see a happy superhero?”
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Tim Burton said:
“Happy superhero?”
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This coming from the man who thought a funeral procession of Penguins was a good idea......  SHUT DA-F*** UP TIM!
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#1571  December 23, 2014, 05:12:19 am
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I hated the lord of the rings movies myself, I found them all boring as all hell and it seemed like they could all been done in one movie. So thank you peter jackson from staying away from superhero movies.

and lol franchise driven says the guy who keeps doing lotr movies. Hypocrite much?

I think they are bitter no one wants to see them do one.

Also did anyone hear about sony wanting to bring back tobey maguire as spiderman\peter parker? I can't remember if it was posted here or not, but I hope they don't go back to him. He's a great actor but I always felt he's way too dry for neurotic peter parker/spiderman which they haven't really gotten down correctly yet.
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#1572  December 23, 2014, 05:13:33 am
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Of all the things to get mad at in Tim Burton's dumb quote, "happy superhero" is by far the most hilariously stupid.

I mean Jesus, this is what lead to Man of Steel, superheroes not being allowed to be happy, who the fuck wants that?

I liked Lord of the Rings but Jackson has really fallen off since then, King Kong and the Hobbit movies are absurdly overly long messes (but have some good moments) and The Lovely Bones is a misfire on practically every level. I want to see Braindead-era Peter Jackson come back!
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#1573  December 23, 2014, 05:14:17 am
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peter jackson hitting that nail
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#1574  December 23, 2014, 05:17:44 am
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He's definitely not wrong but he is probably the absolute worst person to be complaining about it!
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#1575  December 23, 2014, 05:29:32 am
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It's Hollywood backbiting cowardice at it's finest. You can't place blame on one movie for a mess of other movies producers wanting to copy the same tone.....But it's easy though huh.

Ultimately, it's both the movie and comic production company's job to represent their respective characters properly. If one of the two is screwing things up, the other needs to say something, like Marvel has with FF.
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#1576  December 23, 2014, 05:51:44 am
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At least its better than when we got fast and the furious and Michael bay movies every summer. Oh wait.......
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#1577  December 23, 2014, 06:01:14 am
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Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan don't compare Michael Bay movies and The Fast and Furious ones! The Fast movies are certainly pretty dumb, but they're really fun, just gloriously dumb fun!!!
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#1578  December 23, 2014, 06:04:07 am
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I concur, Transformers movies are overly long slogs, Fast and Furious movies are breezy dumb action movies.
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#1579  December 23, 2014, 06:20:51 am
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they both are shitty movies in general though, which was where I was going. I'd rather see an avengers, GOTG,Cap etc every year over either of those.

There's only so many times I can watch them do ocean's 11 with cars. 

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#1580  December 23, 2014, 07:59:14 pm
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Ant-Man trailer coming soon git ur butts ready

And no, no source cuz i dun feel like it