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Re: Marvel Universe discussion (no filthy muties allowed)
#801  November 04, 2014, 06:24:58 pm
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Pretty sure most of us agree that Batman TAS is pretty much the best superhero animated series from the 90's, even better than Xmen in general although to be fair, it's far easier to develop a story with fewer main characters (Xmen's regular cast is gigantic in comparison).

It's also kinda unfair to rule out an entire series by comparing it to the very best episode of another serie when Batman also had its lows. They're both very different series, one being particularly gritty and serious up to the color palette and straight shapes everywhere, while the other being less serious and more colorful with wild silly comic book designs and upbeat music. I personally like both equally although I got bored of Batman quite often when I was younger due to the lack of punch in the episodes (You enjoy it more when you're older and can appreciate a slow paced story).
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#802  November 04, 2014, 06:52:57 pm
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#803  November 04, 2014, 07:31:44 pm
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I made an attempt at figuring out the best X-Men episode but I just couldn't, so I went with generic. It's pretty slim pickings!

Maybe it would be better to compare the worst episodes, like the one with the long, meandering origin of Mr. Sinister vs. the episode where Batman is knocked out for most of the running time and the episode instead follows some plucky kids hiding his body in a basement! Or the one about Gambit's family and the Thieves Guild, featuring the absolute worst accents of any kind ever captured on film vs. that one episode where Catwoman is turned into a furry so a mad scientist can give his man-tiger creation children.

-Red- said, November 04, 2014, 06:24:58 pm
Pretty sure most of us agree that Batman TAS is pretty much the best superhero animated series from the 90's, even better than Xmen in general although to be fair, it's far easier to develop a story with fewer main characters (Xmen's regular cast is gigantic in comparison).
Eeeeeeh, I dunno. That's a definite problem with the movies, because there's so little screentime to go around (and it applies to all superhero team movies); TV can develop a huge amount of characters pretty well, and indeed X-Men did flesh out most of its cast, albeit pretty simplistically (I don't want to keep beating the DCAU drum but... the Justice League show was in the same boat and did so much better characterization-wise that it's hard not to compare!). In any case characterization wasn't a huge problem with the show, it was the plots, the animation, the unlikeability of the characters, the voice acting sometimes, the near complete incompetence of the heroes, stuff like that.

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#804  November 04, 2014, 08:22:56 pm
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So I went back and saw an episode for the first time in nearly 2 decades (wow). Don't know where the sequence with Bishop going back in time to stop Professor X from getting killed stands in comparison to other episodes, as if I would know.

Characters are a huge part of any narrative; hell video game character reveals garner way more attention than anything else due to possible novelty I suppose. The other facets to X-Men animated certainly isn't good (some parts are just laughable), but it's how the characters are presented that really gives the animated series it's appeal. When you have more insight on what makes a quality production, theh yeah it can seem underwhelming. With the quality as is, this would get panned if this was revived as a live action series for young adults. But in a show (or anything for that matter) where the standards are lowered due to the age demographic, sometimes good characterization is all you really need.

I also see why Woverine just "broke-out" in comparison to the others (always knew but just wanted to point that out).

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#805  November 05, 2014, 12:44:16 am
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#806  November 06, 2014, 09:38:15 pm
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Anyone else reading the trainwreck that is axis?

These one dimensional inversions are horrible. The X-men have turned into magneto's and the avengers are all jerks.

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#807  November 07, 2014, 02:23:42 am
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Neocide said, November 06, 2014, 09:38:15 pm
Anyone else reading the trainwreck that is axis?

These one dimensional inversions are horrible. The X-men have turned into magneto's and the avengers are all jerks.

Yep, i see this. That's really sick. :P

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#808  November 08, 2014, 07:17:10 pm
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So this is happening.

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#809  November 08, 2014, 07:26:13 pm
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I still don't believe it's a reboot. I refuse to!

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#810  November 08, 2014, 07:29:00 pm
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Well hey atleast for every Marvel Reboot it's taken 52 DC ones.

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#811  November 08, 2014, 08:12:53 pm
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WHAT A SMUG DOUCHEY COVER

WHO WOULD BUY THIS

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#812  November 08, 2014, 08:14:09 pm
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Well I mean, it is Iron Man. Smug and douchey is kind of part of the package, even without factoring in the additional smug douchiness that a "Superior Spider-Man" type title would imply!

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#813  November 08, 2014, 08:24:51 pm
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New helmet seems. . . impractical beyond the point of an iron man suit, let's just have my face open to getting hit!

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#814  November 08, 2014, 08:26:49 pm
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He's a big fan of Jim Lee's weird sock masks, that only cover the sides of one's head but leaves the face and hair exposed for some reason!

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#815  November 08, 2014, 08:30:16 pm
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so he's not getting a faceplate at all? thats lame, he looks like forge without it.


and why do superheros always go to SF when shit either fucks up(DD) or is about to (X-men)


And the reboot is coming, it'll be all new and ruin 50 years of continuity. There are some things with certain characters I will be glad to be gone though if it does happen.   

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#816  November 08, 2014, 08:40:41 pm
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Extremis superior, faceplates inferior.

I also am of the opinion that there will not be a reboot, simply because DC does it when they feel their continuity has gotten too convoluted, and Marvel has, for a while now, disregarded or outright ignored their continuity.

The ultimate result of all this will be them reclassifying their multiverse into something less vast and comic-booky into something more streamlined and mass-media friendly.
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#817  November 08, 2014, 08:45:17 pm
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I wish that was right, but I just have a feeling their going to wipe it all out.

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#818  November 08, 2014, 11:58:46 pm
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It'd also be kind of stupid of them to do a full on reboot when they're currently doing things that got their comics attention from people who only would probably care about their film adaptations (like FemThor and Falcon Cap which they made out to be big deals).

While there will be some things done that shake up the continuity for good or ill, it probably won't be a total erasing of history like DC did.

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#819  November 09, 2014, 06:14:29 am
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^ you're d@mn right
 I hate the idea of a female "Thor". But I hate a cheap cop-out even more.

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#820  November 10, 2014, 08:13:06 pm
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