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Re: Michigan House is passing a bill that allows EMTs to refuse treatment to gays...
#21  December 11, 2014, 07:15:50 pm
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What if they google you and find out from facebook you have a boyfriend? Are you saying that you should have to hide it in order to get treatment a hair cut, or heck a beer at your local bar?

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Re: Michigan House is passing a bill that allows EMTs to refuse treatment to gays...
#22  December 11, 2014, 07:19:00 pm
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Iced said, December 11, 2014, 07:15:50 pm
What if they google you and find out from facebook you have a boyfriend? Are you saying that you should have to hide it in order to get treatment a hair cut, or heck a beer at your local bar?
A perfect example of why this is simply an act of discrimination and not religious freedom.


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Re: Michigan House is passing a bill that allows EMTs to refuse treatment to gays...
#23  December 11, 2014, 07:27:22 pm
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Алексей said, December 11, 2014, 07:19:00 pm
Iced said, December 11, 2014, 07:15:50 pm
What if they google you and find out from facebook you have a boyfriend? Are you saying that you should have to hide it in order to get treatment a hair cut, or heck a beer at your local bar?
A perfect example of why this is simply an act of discrimination and not religious freedom.


Yeah this isn't how religion is supposed to work, man. This just makes anyone who follows a religion look like a skinhead. This helps nobody at all, based on what I've read in the thread.

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Re: Michigan House is passing a bill that allows EMTs to refuse treatment to gays...
#24  December 11, 2014, 07:40:17 pm
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Iced said, December 11, 2014, 07:15:50 pm
What if they google you and find out from facebook you have a boyfriend? Are you saying that you should have to hide it in order to get treatment a hair cut, or heck a beer at your local bar?
"oh, hi there. you need a haircut? go read that magazine for sec while i google your name to see if you're part of something that offends my beliefs :) "
i already said this bill is stupid and it's not gonna work.
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#25  December 11, 2014, 07:52:26 pm
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It definitely will have adverse effects when it comes to.medicine and pharmaceuticals. Also people shouldnt have to lie. Thats literal silencing and oppression imo
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Re: Michigan House is passing a bill that allows EMTs to refuse treatment to gays...
#26  December 11, 2014, 08:03:04 pm
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supervegeta said, December 11, 2014, 07:13:17 pm
Iced said, December 11, 2014, 07:01:38 pm
What if its an uncoscious person and the paramedics find out its transexual? Do they dump him or her in the side of the road?
I guess only transexuals are gonna get dumped out hospitals because of this bill.
They could kick gays out of intensive care (or any other hospital wing) if their significant others show up for a visit; there's a bunch of other instances in which they could single out lbgt people or their children. 

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#27  December 11, 2014, 08:11:11 pm
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but thats just so fucking inhumane, it would never make this bill pass the discussion phase, not to mention the bad rep the USA health care already has and now they're literally letting people die because they don't share the same belief?
The Führer would've been proud.
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#28  December 11, 2014, 08:41:42 pm
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I don't think a gay person could get kicked out of the hospital over this, because this is about the (supposed) freedom of one individual (the guy treating you) to refuse service on the basis of your sexual orientation. What that means is that for it to get as far as kicking you out of the hospital, the whole staff there would have to refuse treating you. It's more likely that one such piece of shit would simply get to pass you along to another nurse or whatever, not kick you out.
And then there's the whole thing about Hippocratic oath that would fucking ruin forever the shit out of any asshole who tried to refuse service to a gay person, but I guess that's just doctors, I'm not sure how it would go in an ER (but there should still be doctors in there, right ? I don't know exactly how it works)
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Re: Michigan House is passing a bill that allows EMTs to refuse treatment to gays...
#29  December 12, 2014, 12:03:33 am
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the possibilities are endless.

You get a hotel room but the manager finds out you are gay when you arrive with your significant other? Turns out there isnt a room, the manager isnt comfortable hositng gays.
You are having a pizza delivered but you answer the door in drag? No pizza for you, the person delivering just leaves.
Get a flat tire but the person arriving to tow you doesnt like that you are pakistani? Turns out you are staying by the side of the road until someone else comes.

your tailor discovers that you are actually a woman dressing in drag? sorry madam, turns out i cant in good faith supply clothes to the degenerate.

You call 911 and go "My boyfriend just collapsed!" the phone attendant refuses to take your call and passes it off to someone else. 3 minutes shaved out of response time.

Its a ridiculous law all around. you cant claim that dealing with specific people is against your religion. Thats just a gateway to socially accepted racism/homophobia.

"Oh im sorry sir, our only moustache trimmer person is a devout christian so he cant trim your moustache. you will have to seek service elsewhere"

going "Well they should just hide they are muslim/gay/furry/black" implies there is something wrong with it and they need to hide it to be treated like valid human beings.
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#30  December 12, 2014, 12:35:10 am
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Lol I wouldn't want a skinhead xenophobe operating on me anyway.

In all seriousness, this is ridiculous. The very concept of someone studying for 8+ years in a field to be able to help people, but being selective with WHO they help is plum retarded to begin with. The fact that there's a bill in place to support it is just sad.

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#31  December 12, 2014, 12:40:31 pm
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I saw the video TC posted a few days ago and I was already pretty pissed off about it but now that i've read more on it and see it extends to anything that offends personal beliefs and not just gays is beyond retarded.
pass or not, the religious right is going to destroy this country, mark my words.

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#32  December 12, 2014, 06:04:18 pm
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Iced said, December 12, 2014, 12:03:33 am
the possibilities are endless.

You get a hotel room but the manager finds out you are gay when you arrive with your significant other? Turns out there isnt a room, the manager isnt comfortable hositng gays.
You are having a pizza delivered but you answer the door in drag? No pizza for you, the person delivering just leaves.
Get a flat tire but the person arriving to tow you doesnt like that you are pakistani? Turns out you are staying by the side of the road until someone else comes.

your tailor discovers that you are actually a woman dressing in drag? sorry madam, turns out i cant in good faith supply clothes to the degenerate.

You call 911 and go "My boyfriend just collapsed!" the phone attendant refuses to take your call and passes it off to someone else. 3 minutes shaved out of response time.

Its a ridiculous law all around. you cant claim that dealing with specific people is against your religion. Thats just a gateway to socially accepted racism/homophobia.

"Oh im sorry sir, our only moustache trimmer person is a devout christian so he cant trim your moustache. you will have to seek service elsewhere"

going "Well they should just hide they are muslim/gay/furry/black" implies there is something wrong with it and they need to hide it to be treated like valid human beings.

you forgot to post the feminazi examples.

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#33  December 15, 2014, 03:17:23 am
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#34  December 15, 2014, 03:30:56 am
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wow...that shit crazy...ones lifestyle has nothing to do with a life being saved...I would have thought in this day in age after so much has happened that folks would be passed that now especially here in the U.S.
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