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MvC3 Ruby Heart Released, Ken updated(6/13/14)
#1  June 13, 2014, 01:44:47 am
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changelog:
-fixed bug where assists could trigger level 3
-most debug stuff fixed.

So in a little more than a month here we are. I have to say I had a lot of fun making this one and even more with the AI but that's my thing so I usually always do. Ken was updated to match her standards for the most part. The biggest change is that I added proper mvc3 ground teching which is usually seen in hilarious ways during actual matches in the real thing etc. Hopefully you all enjoy her as much as I do(did/will?). I've got one more mvc3 char left in the tank but we wont be seeing him for another year.
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Last Edit: June 13, 2014, 10:06:00 pm by Kamekaze

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#2  June 13, 2014, 02:01:54 am
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The AI on for your Ruby Heart is too hard. If I complain hard enough, maybe you'll nerf it.

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#3  June 13, 2014, 04:20:46 am
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cool also nice to see you added her pirate crew

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-You got a lot of debug flood going on...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

-The Miru Fantome treasure box sticks to her, long after it's active for countering. While fading away, looks odd.

-When I launch p2, rise up with them, and land before they do and jump again, Ruby faces away from p2...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

-Her Schwartzalle feels really loose and fast compared to MvC2. When doing it in the air, she moves so fast that it leaves the camera behind oddly. Almost like you have the screen bounded during the move, I'm not sure if you do or not.

-Your Miru Fantome is nice, but I find myself missing her normal version of this where the ghosts come out on their own. It was good for zoning and getting in some good cheese damage with her.

-No plans for the wooden barrel super? Forgot the name of it.

All and all, it's an interesting take on her. Plays pretty nice. Thanks for the share.
 

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#5  June 13, 2014, 04:59:54 am
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DW said, June 13, 2014, 04:36:18 am
-You got a lot of debug flood going on...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I forgot about most of that to be honest. Most of it is dealing with mugen acting up with vars even when I have triggers that should prevent it. Oh well
DW said, June 13, 2014, 04:36:18 am
-The Miru Fantome treasure box sticks to her, long after it's active for countering. While fading away, looks odd.
whoops.
DW said, June 13, 2014, 04:36:18 am
-When I launch p2, rise up with them, and land before they do and jump again, Ruby faces away from p2...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
I'll look into it.
DW said, June 13, 2014, 04:36:18 am
-Her Schwartzalle feels really loose and fast compared to MvC2. When doing it in the air, she moves so fast that it leaves the camera behind oddly. Almost like you have the screen bounded during the move, I'm not sure if you do or not.
That was the idea, it's a lot more loose for combo reasons. It was not working out when I had the mvc2 version in place. Also it's because of how I coded it, the camera is not being affected. It's ruby that has posadds going on because of me bending her and her fx. You see in mvc2 any angled move that appeared to be used by her even her water fx was done programmatically. I replicated that but due to mugen's weird camera system it had that as side effect.
DW said, June 13, 2014, 04:36:18 am
-Your Miru Fantome is nice, but I find myself missing her normal version of this where the ghosts come out on their own. It was good for zoning and getting in some good cheese damage with her.
It sucked and was utterly useless by far. In the days of mvc2 anyone who let you get away with that probably wasn't that good at the game. I'm sorry but that's the facts man. Making it a counter made the most sense to me on how to make it actually useful. You see the problem was until the chest opened if she was hit it went away so most people who are playing properly would hit her way before it does anything useful.

DW said, June 13, 2014, 04:36:18 am
-No plans for the wooden barrel super? Forgot the name of it.

It was removed at the last second but originally it was part of her level 3 before I made it a counter. cutting room floor man :(


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#6  June 13, 2014, 05:13:52 am
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Ah it's just not a char by me unless there's a day one patch. I think all the debug flood is addressed and the other stuff but the jump thing cause I can't reproduce it. so updated.
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#7  June 13, 2014, 05:19:49 am
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Kamekaze said, June 13, 2014, 04:59:54 am
That was the idea, it's a lot more loose for combo reasons. It was not working out when I had the mvc2 version in place. Also it's because of how I coded it, the camera is not being affected. It's ruby that has posadds going on because of me bending her and her fx. You see in mvc2 any angled move that appeared to be used by her even her water fx was done programmatically. I replicated that but due to mugen's weird camera system it had that as side effect.

Yeah, I can understand/vibe with that. Also OK, with the mentioning of posadds with it, I can see why the camera is handling that way.

Kamekaze said, June 13, 2014, 04:59:54 am
It sucked and was utterly useless by far. In the days of mvc2 anyone who let you get away with that probably wasn't that good at the game. I'm sorry but that's the facts man. Making it a counter made the most sense to me on how to make it actually useful. You see the problem was until the chest opened if she was hit it went away so most people who are playing properly would hit her way before it does anything useful.

Lol! It's all about how you pull it out man! I didn't just throw it out there. I'd do it behind the cover of or off the hit of her Sublimation, combined with an assist cover. Like Ironman's Repulsor Blast or Iceman's Ice Beam or something. I still have the game on my PS3 and use that against the com and peeps often. Yeah, there's risk involved, and it's not the most useful super, but it was nice if you could get it out. Though, the way you have it is fine. It is your own take on it after all. Wouldn't vibe too well especially with the assist choices you gave her I suppose. Tis all good.

Kamekaze said, June 13, 2014, 04:59:54 am
It was removed at the last second but originally it was part of her level 3 before I made it a counter. cutting room floor man :(

:(

Dems the breaks. Oh well, it's cool. Very nice port and small port btw. JZ can really hook those small ports up when he wants to.

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#8  June 13, 2014, 06:24:36 am
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Having a ton of fun with Ruby Heart so far.
- Landing Sublimation after Sabretooth's assist can cause the opponent to fall through the floor.

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#9  June 13, 2014, 06:27:32 am
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record it and send it to me pls. fixed, redownload
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Last Edit: June 13, 2014, 06:31:30 am by Kamekaze

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#10  June 13, 2014, 06:57:20 am
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The winpose when Ruby calls her comrades, the mysterious phantom did not appear.. It's intentional? o-o

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#11  June 13, 2014, 08:37:33 am
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This character is pretty fun. You've done it again Kame.

-Idk if maybe im messing up,but sometimes the assist will appear on the opposite side im facing, even when im in the corner.

So far im liking the character man. i feel like combing with her is....tricky compared to the other MVC3 characters, mostly just trying to get the ship super to connect after the chain attack =__=.
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#12  June 13, 2014, 09:39:50 am
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- If hit during Pare-tonnerre, the ships keeps shooting. Intentional?
- During Miru Fantome, the opponent will randomly unbind at the end of the move(part with the last ghost) and this'll happen:
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- Gotta add some work around for those assist helpers
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
the move keeps going even if the target's a helper.
Last Edit: June 13, 2014, 09:49:03 am by A$AP Buckus

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#13  June 13, 2014, 02:10:24 pm
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ShinZankuro said, June 13, 2014, 06:57:20 am
The winpose when Ruby calls her comrades, the mysterious phantom did not appear.. It's intentional? o-o

To be completely honest I've never seen said winpose in action on mvc2. Like I tried for hours to get that one but I always got the "take my hat off" pose. So what you're seeing is what I believe it was. As for the phantom, I didn't put it in because I didn't know where it went so I was hoping someone would tell me about it <_<

Zer0degreez said, June 13, 2014, 08:37:33 am
This character is pretty fun. You've done it again Kame.

-Idk if maybe im messing up,but sometimes the assist will appear on the opposite side im facing, even when im in the corner.

So far im liking the character man. i feel like combing with her is....tricky compared to the other MVC3 characters, mostly just trying to get the ship super to connect after the chain attack =__=.

I've yet to see that, record it and send it to me.

As for the ship, you can combo into it from anchor grabs around a certain time after ruby hits the opponent. Colossus assist is the easiest confirm. You also can do it from H water pillar if you time it perfectly when the opponent is knocked down. The AI will show off one of them randomly.


A$AP Buckus said, June 13, 2014, 09:39:50 am
- If hit during Pare-tonnerre, the ships keeps shooting. Intentional?
- During Miru Fantome, the opponent will randomly unbind at the end of the move(part with the last ghost) and this'll happen:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
- Gotta add some work around for those assist helpers
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
the move keeps going even if the target's a helper.

-Yep, there's 1 frame where she can be hit when it connects and she can xfc it too. I know it's ridiculous but I designed the ship to be 100% self-reliant.
-I've never seen an opponent unbind so can you be a little more specific to what happened?
-I feel stupid for not considering that possibility. However things get a wee bit complicated when you consider helpers that have their own thing going on. I'd have to make the counter not work on them or something along those lines. I have an idea of what to do but I'm not sure if it will work out. Seeing that I'm at work we won't know probably for at least 12 hours.


 
 
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#14  June 13, 2014, 04:38:02 pm
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Ken has debug flood as well.

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#15  June 13, 2014, 10:06:31 pm
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Alright the issue where helpers could trigger level 3 has been addressed. Unfortunately it meant that now they can just cancel it out but hey that's life.
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#16  June 13, 2014, 10:10:18 pm
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Kamekaze said, June 13, 2014, 02:10:24 pm
ShinZankuro said, June 13, 2014, 06:57:20 am
The winpose when Ruby calls her comrades, the mysterious phantom did not appear.. It's intentional? o-o

To be completely honest I've never seen said winpose in action on mvc2. Like I tried for hours to get that one but I always got the "take my hat off" pose. So what you're seeing is what I believe it was. As for the phantom, I didn't put it in because I didn't know where it went so I was hoping someone would tell me about it <_<




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#17  June 13, 2014, 10:27:38 pm
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There we are. Alright the next update will have that fixed winpose. I apologize for anyone expecting that iconic thing.
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#18  June 13, 2014, 11:27:19 pm
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Meh, that's a optional thing XD

I just noticed it, but you don't need to apologize :D

And btw, nice char :D

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#19  June 14, 2014, 12:15:06 am
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Something minor, but all supers are missing a noFG assertspecial.
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