The Simplistic Fubini said, November 29, 2014, 07:33:22 pmMr. Popo's shown to be in a league of his own immediately after Goku defeats King Piccolo. If Popo > Goku and Goku > King Piccolo, then the logical conclusion is...That reminds Me about a scene with Goten and Trunks. When they were eating after they woke up at Kami's Lookout, they mistook the situation and started attacking Mr. Popo. Mr Popo's defense wasn't bad. He was actually able to keep up with them.This scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcSBKbQ0ydY
~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ said, November 29, 2014, 07:00:22 pmWow....so your telling me that whole time during Dragonball, Mr.Po Po was way stronger than King Piccolo, WOW LOL I didnt even know that lolYeah, he's the strongest in Dragon Ball with the second being Arale (800 I think).
Tyrant Belial said, November 29, 2014, 07:47:22 pmAnd then he does it again, even if in filler, with Goten and Kid Trunks in their super saiyan forms.ahh yes, I guess were talking about the same thing. I forgot to quote your reply in my previous post. I posted the video you mentioned about Goten and Trunks.
Measurable power levels only exist when scouters appeared. Saying anyone had specific levels during Dragonball is stupid.
TBH all the Jump data books and whatever kept giving out power levels right up until the SSJ3 form so of course the entire fandom just got used to it. Never mind that it completely disregarded the whole point : that it was useless because it would always change from 5 to a few hundred thousands in a second. Freeza was the last one to care and boast about it. But fans loved it, so it stuck. Merchandising, whacha gonna do.
people forget that being a manga the powers fit the narrative.Who would win superman vs hulk? Whoever the writer found most interesting in the narrative, its not about whos stronger, its about interesting fights.further muddying the waters with battle of the gods was the best thing they could have done.
super saiyajin 2 trunks is another example, he was stronger than vegeta but he was so strong he could nto move fast or something stupid.
That wasn't Super Saiyan 2, that was some enhanced form of regular Super Saiyan. There was regular Super Saiyan, then one enhanced form that Vegeta discovered and he started calling himself Super Vegeta, then another enhanced form that Trunks tried to use (and which Goku discovered too, but he realized the flaw and dropped it, and it's hinted that Vegeta also figured out the same thing), and then there was Super Saiyan 2. That one is the only one that has lightning effects (in the manga - the anime put those everywhere to the point you couldn't figure out which form someone was in at the moment, especially Gohan and Vegeta in the Buu Saga) ; Trunks form doesn't have them, his aura looks like a big ball of lightning but it's not the same one as SSJ2.That form is actually one of the rare times DBZ tried to make something slightly smarter than usual IMO, when showing that Cell could do the same but also knew it was worthless to be a big mass of power if you couldn't move anymore.
Yeah, I remember the mode being called "Ultra Super Saiyan" in a guidebook I bought years ago, but it seems like this is another name for ithttp://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/3rd_Grade_Super_Saiyan
it has also been dubbed ussj2 , with vegeta form being ussj.I dunno who come first but trunks ussj2 form looked a lot like broly due to the expanding mass.
Broly came after Trunks USSJ, thats why I say that Broly is some sort of potala fusion of Broly and Trunks.
Speaking of these transformations and forms, what did Goku become when he was fighting Lord Slug. I know it's titles as a fake ssj but, is it a regulair transformation or just a powered up mode? I also remembered after reading that Goku used this form in hell against the Ginyu Force when he was send there with Pikkon to stop Cell and all of them.
It's "The filler and movie teams didn't know what super saiyan form looked like or were just lazy so they used Kaioken effects" Form.
They didn't want to introduce ssj in a movie, so they had to go one step lower. The slug movie came out before the Frieza arc was over.
