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New DBZ Movie 2015 (Read 13078 times)

Started by Omega, July 15, 2014, 09:25:05 am
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Re: New DBZ Movie 2015
#81  November 20, 2014, 11:05:32 am
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#82  November 20, 2014, 11:08:18 am
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Just by existing, he's dissing himself. :P
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#83  November 21, 2014, 02:32:40 pm
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#84  November 23, 2014, 03:51:52 pm
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I want to see something like fighters from hell watch the battle like they did in the Buu Saga. The Ginyu Force, Zarbon & Dodoria should be cameo's wich are cheering for Frieza there.
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#85  November 23, 2014, 05:42:02 pm
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#86  November 23, 2014, 05:56:19 pm
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A new DBZ movie? I hope it stars Vegeta. I mean I love Goku, but give the prince of saiyans some love huh?
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#87  November 24, 2014, 08:06:01 pm
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If it is true, it was already said that Vegeta would be the protagonist in this Movie. Maybe Vegeta knows who those two new henchmen are as he already knows and encountered most Frieza's henchmen there.
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#88  November 24, 2014, 08:13:17 pm
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#89  November 26, 2014, 01:45:58 pm
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Most Z-Warriors weren't that strong during the Saiyan Saga. So I don't think Yamcha deserves that much jokes around him. I believe Akira Toriyama added a dramatic plot by choosing Yamcha as the loser. It could be someone else instead of him. The only thing that is a little wheird is that Yamcha never trained that after all things happened around them in the Sagas there.
Last Edit: November 26, 2014, 01:50:53 pm by Omega
Re: New DBZ Movie 2015
#90  November 26, 2014, 02:54:54 pm
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I saw some fan theory about how they get traumatized with their "deaths" and it changes their personality.
Tenshinhan avoiding the others once Vegeta joins them because he was killed during Vegeta invasion and Yamcha getting fearfull of fighting after the saibas explode him and the androids own him.

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#91  November 26, 2014, 03:08:31 pm
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Or much simpler, they're well aware that they're just humans and they're completely useless. Yamcha getting punked against the cyborgs and then Cell Junior simply gave up, though Tenshinhan still kept a bit of a drive when he busted Cell's second form and then Buu for a minute. Even Krillin gave up after Cell, and he was the one who tried the hardest to stick to the group if only for his friendship with Goku. They can barely hold a few seconds, it's pointless and all they can do is get killed. Only Tenshinhan can use some strategy, but that's because he's always been the smartest of the group on that regard along with Piccolo since his very first tournament.
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#92  November 26, 2014, 06:23:23 pm
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I don't remember exactly how the android fight unfolded, I just remember the meta-mention that if tenshinhan was strong/had an attack strong enough to hold cell's second form he was more than strong enough to defeat the androids; it's just typical dragon-ball-z-convenient-power-levels.


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[11:24:37 a.m.] KoopaKoot: It's more like the move he did exceeds his power level
[11:24:59 a.m.] edgaraguilarx45h: still strong enough to kill the androids
[11:25:05 a.m.] edgaraguilarx45h: and he was abel to do a few ones in a row
[11:25:17 a.m.] edgaraguilarx45h: was he not in the initial group ?
[11:25:29 a.m.] edgaraguilarx45h: or did he pull a goku and was confident the other guys coudl handle the situation ?
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#93  November 26, 2014, 06:30:22 pm
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I'm sure it can be explained.
He used the Kikouhou on Cell (several times in a row), and Kikouhou takes a while to charge up ; also, he didn't do much damage to Cell, he barely dug a big hole and shoved Cell in it. We don't know how much damage it would have done to the androids, and how many shots it would have needed to be useful. Finally, even considering it as an ambush attack, saying it did hold Cell back and might have been strong enough to end up damaging #17, 18, 19 or 20, there's also the fact that while Tenshinhan was shooting several of them in a row (and nearly died from it), Cell wasn't trying to shut him up, he was trying to get to #18 as fast as he could before she got away. Attempting the same thing on two cyborgs would have resulted in both of them immediately turning on him (unlike Cell who insisted on getting #18) and one of them sniping him while he was busy with the other. So even though it was beyond his limits, it's supposed to be considered as a decoy attack the way he used it, not a kill move.
DBZ is weird on power levels but it's not the best go-to argument to dismiss everything.
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#94  November 26, 2014, 06:45:39 pm
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ah, by convenient power levels I mean fighting the enemies in the proper-escalating order, so any excuse is made up so instead of having the stronger guy defeat it's rivals right away, the characers increase their power in a way so more  fights are ensued, like piccolo fusing with teh rest of the namekians to fight freezer, but not fuse before so he could have easily handled freezer's men.

even dbz itself subverts that in the buu saga, by saying that gohan is weaker than he was during the fight with cell, giving the other characters a chance to catch up and then using magical means to increase power levels right away
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#95  November 26, 2014, 06:54:22 pm
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So can we assume that the story is set in one of the other universes Beerus/Bills talked about? Maybe Toriyama got inspired by Dragonball Multiverse haha, though he actually had the idea first with Future Trunks  :P
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#96  November 26, 2014, 07:28:40 pm
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Why would we assume this takes place in a different universe ? Freeza was revived with the Dragon Ball, that's all we know so far.
Also Dragon Ball Multiverse is a completely different concept from what Battle of Gods brought up.
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#97  November 26, 2014, 07:37:32 pm
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#98  November 26, 2014, 08:09:46 pm
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Basically because as I remember it, it was stated that Dragon balls can't bring back someone dead for more than a year, also notice the new outfits. Feel free to correct me though. Also I know that Akira is quite forgetful and may have forgotten about this rule but still, for Freezer to be coming back he wouldn't stand a chance, considering this movie is set after BoG. And about your idea Hephaistos considering training in hell, I'm sure that these were all filler scenes (like them watching Buu vs Goku battle etc.) as that wasn't in the manga. And I think it was also stated that only a few ones in heaven are allowed to keep their bodies, so those going to hell don't even have their bodies.
Don't get me wrong, Freezer is my second favorite villain and I do like to see him come back but I'm just wondering how Akira tries to overcome their difference in power, though judging from the cover it's Freezer with SSG aura, so that may explain that.
Anyway the thing with the other universe was just an idea of mine :)
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#99  November 26, 2014, 08:22:50 pm
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I'm more inclined to think it's on purpose that they picked Freeza, and they'll come up with an explanation that will be the bulk of the whole point of the movie (a revival after more than a year, and how he'll stand up to god-level guys). We simply don't know it yet, we can have nothing more than wild speculations. The first teasers were talking about a catastrophic wish, after all, so something must be going wrong for Freeza to revive and not be ridiculously weak.
As for the new outfit, I'm nearly convinced that Goku is the one who's been training with Bills or Wills or he found someone new related to them. There's no way he wouldn't insist on getting such an opportunity after the BoG fight, and Bills saw the Super Saiyan God level so Goku should have caught his fancy.
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#100  November 26, 2014, 08:23:51 pm
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any ball-related limit is set by the namekian/kamisama that is in charge of the balls, so it's a very easy "retcon", just make a different namekian be in create the balls.