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Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#81  November 05, 2014, 04:49:09 pm
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and Jarosław Zieliński is all like "cool, free publicity" on the inside.
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#82  December 15, 2014, 05:34:03 pm
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Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#83  December 15, 2014, 09:38:08 pm
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Annnnnnd it's outta here

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-12-15-controversial-mass-murdering-game-hatred-appears-on-steam-greenlight

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Valve has removed Hatred from Steam Greenlight.

"Based on what we've seen on Greenlight we would not publish Hatred on Steam. As such we'll be taking it down," Valve's Doug Lombardi told Eurogamer moments ago.

That didn't take long.

and the dev's response

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Hatred developer Destructive Creations has commented on having the game removed from Steam Greenlight, and has also provided some stats from its short-lived campaign.

The game received 13,148 yes votes and reached number seven out of just over 2,000 games on Greenlight. This would have put it on course for approval on Steam.

The developer said Valve was in its rights to remove the title, but questioned why other ultraviolent games were still available on the store.

"Even though games like Manhunt or Postal are still available on Steam we of course fully respect Valve’s decision, as they have the right to do so,” read a statement.

“In the same time we want to assure you that this won’t in any way impact the game's development, game’s vision or gameplay features we’re aiming for. The game is still to be released in Q2 2015 as planned."
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Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#84  December 16, 2014, 12:42:11 am
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I wodner how will they twists this to use  as publicity
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#85  December 16, 2014, 12:45:36 am
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So hardcore and edgy even Volvo and GabeN fear us!
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Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#86  December 16, 2014, 11:58:29 am
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Hah!

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Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#87  December 16, 2014, 02:34:36 pm
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fuckin home run tim buckley
Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#88  December 16, 2014, 03:13:39 pm
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now apply the buckley law and make the joke just two squares long and funnier.
Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#89  December 16, 2014, 06:02:08 pm
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From what I heard, there was no official reason from Valve on why they are pulling Hatred from it's catalog,

What could be the reason, if there is one? I meant, you can't just pull Hatred and leave up games that are arguably more violent and controversy ridden like Postal and GTA series and not expect someone calling you out for you sloppy business practices.

In fact, I think CynicalBrit did call them out on this act:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFb06S6F0gA&feature=youtu.be

So, what could be the reason?
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Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#90  December 16, 2014, 06:37:21 pm
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Valve is a private business and has no obligation to put every game on Steam, and they have the right to refuse games from their service. There's no big conspiracy here.
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#91  December 16, 2014, 06:59:24 pm
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Indeed, Valve have every right to do what the heck they want. If they want to do something I do not like, go figure.

I do have the right to call them out on their hypocrisy, bad business practices, and their consistent abuses to the consumer. Their consumer services are riddled with horror stories of incompetence, they frequently allow broken games to exist on their catalog, and now, this incident.

Here are the statistics for Hatred upon time of banning from Steam:



#7 ranking game out of more than 2000 candidates for Greenlight.
An overwhelmingly positive response from a not so insignificant amount of people, despite negative press.

To me, this game have all of the things done right to get Greenlit by Valve, but then Valve has to pull the plug in spite of what does have the buyer has to say.

What ever happened to "consumer is king"?
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Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#92  December 16, 2014, 07:04:12 pm
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Valve is a private business and has no obligation to put every game on Steam, and they have the right to refuse games from their service. There's no big conspiracy here.

True, they can actually sell whatever they want but the excuse given for its removal is far from sufficient to its customers. Let's remember that Valve is where it is because of its customers. The game had a staggering support and made it to the 7th place in like 2 hours, and it wasn't a troll entry like "Half Life 3: Half Harder" or anything like that, it was a legit greenlight submission.

People are mostly complaining about how they're removing it just because of SJW pressure and to avoid some bad PR for selling the game when the only people who would go as far as to talk bad about Valve and Steam because of this are these people who just want to be offended by something, and they don't even play games to begin with.

And then you have the huge amount of games with the same, if not more violence. It's double standard at its best, pseudo-censorship at its worst (Because let's face it, the biggest digital store closing its doors to your game can make or break you as a developer).

It does feel like a slap in the face of the customers, as if we weren't mature enough to decide whether to buy a game or not. People already deal with censorship in Visual Novels on steam due to the double standards we're used to from the USA by now (A nipple? Noooooo! Be able to blow out the brain of a civilian with a shotgun? Yeah sure, sell it) but this is like one step beyond that shit by now.
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Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#93  December 16, 2014, 07:08:39 pm
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Valve wants to be neutral, its simple
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#94  December 16, 2014, 07:10:54 pm
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Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh, they removed a game that got in the top 10 in two hours for totally vague reasons. How does that make them neutral at all?
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Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#95  December 16, 2014, 07:13:53 pm
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a lot of sjw champions on twitter bring up the developers probably being neonazis. why does that matter. would this same exact game be super cool if it was made by hipster doofus #53?

the comparisons to gta aren't fair. you can turn gta into a mass murder simulator if you want to, but that's not the point of the game. hatred's entire point is murdering innocent people
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#96  December 16, 2014, 07:14:55 pm
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Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh, they removed a game that got in the top 10 in two hours for totally vague reasons. How does that make them neutral at all?
Among the options they had, it was probably seen as the one likely to court the least amount of controversy for them. Valve doesn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole, most likely.
Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#97  December 16, 2014, 07:20:24 pm
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Just mod the game so its a persecuted minority bringing out revenge against some hategroup, keep the rest of the game entirely the same. Sucess.
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#98  December 16, 2014, 07:22:25 pm
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a lot of sjw champions on twitter bring up the developers probably being neonazis. why does that matter. would this same exact game be super cool if it was made by hipster doofus #53?
I heard that was discredited? Unless there's something I missed.
Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#99  December 16, 2014, 07:23:20 pm
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Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh, they removed a game that got in the top 10 in two hours for totally vague reasons. How does that make them neutral at all?
Among the options they had, it was probably seen as the one likely to court the least amount of controversy for them. Valve doesn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole, most likely.

This sets a bad precedence for Valve, they're avoiding minor backlash from minor groups that don't even care about games to be honest, at the cost of partial (If not total) censorship.

Remember that today, it's a game about mindless murder (And we don't even know the entire story behind the game besides a very small trailer) and we don't have to fight for the right to see this sold as a standard item like any other game on Steam. Tomorrow it can be any other game that conflicts with the interests of another whining minority, interests that could represent you or any of us somehow ("This game has boobs! The devs are literally raping my mind! remove it from the store!", "This game has gay people, until they remove them you cannot sell this on Steam. Valve, you gotta protect our children!"). People aren't defending the game because it's good or because it represents them, but because a move like this encourages stuff like that to happen more often whenever a controversial game comes out, it doesn't even need to be a violent game.
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Re: New postal like game announced- Hatred
#100  December 16, 2014, 07:25:10 pm
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a lot of sjw champions on twitter bring up the developers probably being neonazis. why does that matter. would this same exact game be super cool if it was made by hipster doofus #53?
I heard that was discredited? Unless there's something I missed.

The accusation came from threadbare evidence that does not mean anything and the CEO of the developer dismissed the accusations as ridiculous.

I think TotalBiscuit mentioned it in the video I have linked.
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