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Started by SuperGohanSunderland, February 06, 2014, 04:49:37 am
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New stance for Infinite's Cloud
#1  February 06, 2014, 04:49:37 am
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Hello again guys! Okay so if some of you are wondering why there hasn't been a lot of progress on my Link re-spriting, one of the reasons is because I've been a little more focused on this, at the moment. Doesn't mean I'm not going to finish Link, It's just that this is something that I figure shouldn't take too long. Now I absolutely love Infinite for completely taking the old Cloud char and completely revamping his gameplay to beautiful standards (no offense to the original creator). Sure, his sprites aren't the greatest, but with practically all the specials from just about every title he's been in, and great diverse combo's to destroy your enemy, he's just about the Cloud I've always wanted for Mugen. However there's been one slight thing that's been utterly bugging me with every match I play with him, and as you can obviously tell from the title, it's his stance. Now normally I'm alright for this kind of thing and don't get too worried about it, but I find Cloud's stance to be rather iconic in the FF7 franchise. So I took it upon myself to try and handle this little pet peeve of mine and as a bonus, maybe upload it for downloading, for others if they feel the same. Here's how it's looking so far.
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I'm kinda iffy about the shading on the right arm.
 
Here's what I'm basing it on. The movement probably won't be exactly identical.



So uhh..yeah. Tell me what you guys think. :) 
     
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Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 05:51:31 am by SuperGohanSunderland
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#2  February 06, 2014, 04:50:47 am
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Have his arm(right) bent a bit at the elbow. I think it would look a bit better.
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#3  February 06, 2014, 04:53:38 am
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Taybear took the words out of my mouth. Bend that arm at the elbow a little. It looks too rigid right now.

Good call in doing this, though. I hadn't even thought about it but it makes a lot of sense.
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#4  February 06, 2014, 07:03:26 am
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Okay how's the elbow on this? Tried to tilt it a bit. Also added more of the handle to his Buster Sword as well.
     
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#5  February 06, 2014, 07:24:06 am
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Arm still needs to bend more. Look at your ref and then the stance. Yours is much more straight.
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#6  February 06, 2014, 07:37:11 am
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I believe they are talking of Cloud's right arm. (Artist's left)
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#7  February 06, 2014, 07:43:34 am
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So wait..do you guys mean the left arm or right? I'm assuming it's the straighter one. :uhoh2:
     
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#8  February 06, 2014, 07:44:33 am
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Both arms in the ref are bent noticeably. The front arm in your stance is arrow straight.
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#9  February 06, 2014, 07:52:30 am
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Yeah, I see now. I'll try to bend it a bit, then.
     
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#10  February 07, 2014, 02:01:59 am
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So I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out whether I should try bending his arm, or go for the straight look. While the reference is straight from Final Fantasy 7, it seems to be slightly inconsistent with other games.
For example, here's his poses from Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts.


It seems to boil down to which stance just looks better.
The original, or the classic. :/
     
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Last Edit: February 07, 2014, 02:05:36 am by SuperGohanSunderland
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#11  February 07, 2014, 02:27:27 am
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I say you just go ahead and bend it, for the sake of the 2D style
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#12  February 07, 2014, 03:44:05 am
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The .gif you referred to earlier is the perfect reference.
Don't think too much into it.
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#13  February 07, 2014, 04:03:12 am
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Alright, I go ahead and follow the first gif then. So here's my attempt at bending the arm.
     
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#14  February 07, 2014, 04:09:55 am
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It looks quite good, but I feel that in the transition he lost some of the definition in his arm (being mostly noticed in the artists left) and perhaps thin them out slightly around the joint, it is looking quite good though.
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#15  February 07, 2014, 04:14:39 am
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So do you feel I should try and polish it, or should I move on to the others?
     
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#16  February 07, 2014, 04:17:00 am
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I would say tweak it a tiny bit if you can, the adjustment seems like it should be minor if anything, but I think it's useable in its' current state too. Hmm...maybe the angle of the arm could be a bit more also, the way I see it myself is that it seems difficult to replicate the straightness of the arm if you do try and do the pose yourself.
Last Edit: February 07, 2014, 04:20:16 am by C-G-U
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#17  February 07, 2014, 04:20:40 am
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you can bend the right arm (artist left) a little bit
but the arm looks fine
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#18  February 07, 2014, 04:35:19 am
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Alright so I tried doing a little clean-up like you said and here's how it looks.

Tried to even out the joints a bit and such. Really small stuff.
But I think I'll try and bend it a bit more. If I can't come up with anything, I'll just stick with this one.
     
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Last Edit: February 07, 2014, 04:42:46 am by SuperGohanSunderland
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#19  February 07, 2014, 05:08:04 am
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I like the iconic stance too, but won't that stance hinder some of his basic attacks n terms of animation?
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#20  February 07, 2014, 05:15:04 am
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This is something I've actually taken into account. What I plan on doing is basically just replacing the stance, and seeing how everything else goes from there. A rather unprofessional method, but that's my plan. If there ends up being too many disruptions, I'll call a quits for the mean time, and head back over to Link. For now though, I just want to see how far I can take it.
     
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