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Next X-Box: Piracy and Used Games
#1  April 03, 2012, 07:34:24 pm
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IGN's latest opus "Your Local Game Store is going bust" shook up a few thoughts of mine into the whole DRM thing.

http://games.ign.com/articles/122/1222036p1.html

Microsoft has stated that the next X-Box will have to be plugged into your online connection at all times to ensure proper playability. If you peer deeper into what M$ is saying, they are making it harder for pirates, and hackers, to copy material and play with no problem. SFxT comes to mind immediately.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/122/1222119p1.html

What does that mean for the average consuer who isn't tech savvy?? Blocking used games. Once you purchase a title, it's locked into your console and that's it. So what does this mean for GameStop?? Will they be put out of busines?? Will gaming sales be affected overall?? Will Capcom's bottom line be affected so they don't pull this "locked content" BS again?? Will a giant riot ensue and bring about a Hunger Games/Running Man fiasco within the gaming industry??

I for one loved the way gaming was back in the Playstation/Dreamcast era. Once a title was released, that was it. No add on's, no yearly sequels (Well, some). Tekken 2 lasted me at least three years. I played Super Metriod to death, well into the Playstation launch and beyond. Companies now have the control and ability to release unfinished and locked software to unsuspecting fans who genuinely love the material. And there's nothing we can do about it, except to buy into it or wait for a patch. The problem I see here is that M$ is taking away the choice of buying something discounted, or from a friend. Whatever happened to the shareware model?? That's right, it's now a demo. I think that locking content into a console removes plenty of choices from us, the consumer. I'm not too keen on it either.

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#2  April 03, 2012, 07:43:11 pm
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This and what the next Playstation are going to do are horrible attacks on the consumers and I really hope that there is a huge backlash on both companies for this. People are already sick of on disc DLC and "online passes" and scummy business models, so whats gonna happen if people are angry at both the game developers and the system developers?

Hopefully something will happen and force everyone involved to stop trying to screw over the people who buy their products for their own financial benefit. I'm not happy thinking that if I move into a new house that doesn't have an internet yet, or can't afford internet at the time, or it's temporarily down, consoles I purchased are dead. I don't think there is a single person who would be happy with that idea.

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#3  April 03, 2012, 07:53:19 pm
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IIRC, Gamestop already said that they are not going to sell/support any consoles that lock discs, walmart already did that to the pspgo so tehre is precedent of retailers telling companies to fuck off.

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#4  April 03, 2012, 07:58:53 pm
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@[E]: That is very good news.  This DLC/anti piracy shit is really getting out of hand, and I hope that consumers will stand up for themselves instead of forking over money to play the newest games only to be trod upon. 

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#5  April 03, 2012, 08:02:29 pm
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@[E]: That is very good news.  This DLC/anti piracy shit is really getting out of hand, and I hope that consumers will stand up for themselves instead of forking over money to play the newest games only to be trod upon.

Though, as proven by the fans who gave Capcom the idea whoring DLC and the online stores was a good thing, some retards are going to do it. Just watch.  Oh and off topic, but I posted those sounds for Crispy. Did you get them MC2?

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#6  April 03, 2012, 08:05:59 pm
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I thought I could hide from the war on consumer's rights through console gaming but the DRM bullshit is apparently gonna be there too. You know, I think I could spend this next generation finishing some NES and SNES games I never got to finish.

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#7  April 03, 2012, 08:12:19 pm
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Alpa-San said, April 03, 2012, 08:05:59 pm
You know, I think I could spend this next generation finishing some NES and SNES games I never got to finish.

I'm with you 100%. I'm actually going to have a MAME fighting game get together soon. I think I shall call it something along the lines of rocking it hard like its the SNES era.

Seriously though, DRM and consumer control are getting out of hand. There's only so much you can do to prevent losses. How about heightening quality control's standards to ensure gamers will actually buy without question?? Locking out a shitty game to a console only locks the game, NOT the shitty content.

Blame the stock holders. Greedy fucks!!
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#8  April 03, 2012, 08:18:52 pm
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Haven't PC games been locking themselves to systems, with product codes since forever? Well I like to buy my games new anyway, so that and online passes don't bother me at all. What I find disturbing is the idea of needing a constant connection to play games properly. My connection is awesome, but assuming this is true, MS would be making a huge mistake because not everyone with an XBox will have internet access. Some with internet access have crappy connections too, so that could really work against them.

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#9  April 03, 2012, 08:28:46 pm
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all I know is noone will buy the new systems...buying used games saves us money..and the gaming companies don't like it since they make no profit from it. but there won't be a difference if noone buys their new console. I can understand that there are people pirating shit but it hurts the ones who actually buy the game(used or new).

all I know is fuck the new system...Im gonna stay with PS3, xbox360


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#10  April 03, 2012, 08:32:57 pm
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Well looks like i won't have a Xbox or Playstation to go along with my Wii U if this is true.

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#11  April 03, 2012, 08:35:59 pm
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meh my money's on Nintendo for the new generation, they know how to treat there customers right, by releasing some of the greatest games of all time with no bs dlc. So the wii U is a sure buy for me :)
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#12  April 03, 2012, 09:03:00 pm
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^^ just wait.

DLC crap is just arriving at the 3ds and in 1-2 years it will be the same shit on nintendo games as everywhere else.
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#13  April 03, 2012, 09:05:53 pm
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it all sounds iffy, both companies have developers leaking about the same system in use on both future, never talked about, consoles?

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#14  April 03, 2012, 10:25:05 pm
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What needs to be done is for the companies to stop trying to punish everyone to try and stamp out pirates, and instead reward people for legitimately paying for their products.  Ubisoft's new strategy seems like a step in the right direction.  They're ramping up after-launch support for their titles and overhauling their customer service in an attempt to make piracy the least appealing option.  What MS is doing here is just wrong.  Preemptively treating their entire customer base like pirates in potentia is going to do nothing but cause problems for everyone.
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#15  April 03, 2012, 10:27:45 pm
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they'll realize it too late when noone buys the new systems


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#16  April 03, 2012, 10:41:47 pm
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the supposed "Used game locking" and constant internet connection were merely rumors.


I have my doubts that MS and Sony will seriously go through this unless they want for Nintendo to monopolize the Next gen systems.

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#17  April 03, 2012, 10:51:39 pm
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well if it is just a rumor then it's a rumor and we can asll jump for joy


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Saikoro said, April 03, 2012, 07:34:24 pm
Will a giant riot ensue and bring about a Hunger Games/Running Man fiasco within the gaming industry??
Lol, I doubt it.
However, I do agree with Caddie when he stated that this is an attempt to restrain and attack consumers indefinitely.

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#19  April 04, 2012, 01:38:13 am
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blackstar said, April 03, 2012, 08:35:59 pm
meh my money's on Nintendo for the new generation, they know how to treat there customers right, by releasing some of the greatest games of all time with no bs dlc. So the wii U is a sure buy for me :)

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nintendo better get off it's ass in the gaming department for this next generation then, because i found the wii's game library to be absolutely DISMAL
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#20  April 04, 2012, 01:55:26 am
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I Thought Microsoft confirmed they didn't have any plans for a new Xbox
If they are seriously going with this then fuck them.
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