Hey Guys,I'll be using this thread as a progress thread. This game is NOT dead. I have been side-tracked and demotivated from it though. To kick myself back into shape, I'm going to try a more orderly approach.So far, what we have done is:16 Characters16 StagesScreen Pack and LifebarsThere's more that needs to be done though. Currently, as of 7/15/2013, I'm going through each character and fixing any and all bugs in the NZCR characters. Stages will be addressed separately and I'll be making changes to the Screen Pack and Lifebars as well. Now, getting back to the characters. I invite everyone who is interested to submit any bugs you may find to me in some way. You may post them here in this thread, via PM, or even on my site (via PM). I of course will be doing rigorous testing on my end as well. I have a bug tracking document that I've set up to manage them.The lifebars are being recreated to accommodate the new mechanics.Let the progress continue!
Good to now the game is still alive Alexei! If I find any bugs I'll Pm best of luck and looking forward for the progress!
Quickfist said, July 16, 2013, 10:58:04 pmGood to now the game is still alive Alexei! If I find any bugs I'll Pm best of luck and looking forward for the progress!Thanks man. I'll be on the hunt.
Legend Ivanhoe said, July 17, 2013, 11:41:14 pmNice Alexei... i will test all of your chars, one by one... Glad to see you are back into NZCThanks man. Lord knows I could use all the help I can get.
Yo Alexei its celest if you can then PLEASE insert Jutsu Clash from Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 1 as a Full Game Element PLEASE I am waiting for this full game as long as it takes
Astral-kun said, July 18, 2013, 06:36:46 amYo Alexei its celest if you can then PLEASE insert Jutsu Clash from Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 1 as a Full Game Element PLEASE I am waiting for this full game as long as it takesTo be honest, I've seen the various Jutsu clashes that people have added to some characters and it just doesn't look good in my opinion. I don't know if I'm going to do that or not. I'm leaning against it.
Hey bro,I'll tell you once I start that new stage we talked about. I'll help you with updating your older stages, I saw some things that need to be fixed in some of them
Watta said, July 20, 2013, 10:04:14 amHey bro,I'll tell you once I start that new stage we talked about. I'll help you with updating your older stages, I saw some things that need to be fixed in some of themHey man, sounds good. Yeah, I didn't really know much about stages when I made some of those and it shows.
Greetings Alexei, how are you doing? I've tested all your chars but i haven't found any bugs or whatsoever, the only thing i didn't like too much was the "ground rocks Fx/anim" when Naruto throws his "Rasengan", it kinda clashes, i think it'd be better if you add a transparent (white or light grey) dust Fx. Same goes for the underground uppercut.
Hey man, I'm well. As I mentioned on MC, I made new, unreleased effects for Naruto's rasengan a while ago. But, for the undergound uppercut, don't you think that should at least have some sort of ground effect? I mean, he's coming from the ground. lol
I do think so, that's why i've recomended you to change it (not to leave it with no Fx) for a "White or light Grey" dust Fx, cause a neutral color won't clash with most of stages. Also most of your chars Fx have a great quality and that one looks kinda pixelated (don't know if that's the correct term). I will be willing to make an example for you, and ofcourse it'll be up to you to use it or not, your choice.
Legend Ivanhoe said, July 27, 2013, 06:58:03 amI do think so, that's why i've recomended you to change it (not to leave it with no Fx) for a "White or light Grey" dust Fx, cause a neutral color won't clash with most of stages. Also most of your chars Fx have a great quality and that one looks kinda pixelated (don't know if that's the correct term). I will be willing to make an example for you, and ofcourse it'll be up to you to use it or not, your choice.Oh, I see. Sorry, I misunderstood you. Yes, pretty much any of my effects that are high quality have been made from scratch by me. The pixelated effects are from other sources like NZC and other Naruto games.Sure! Let's see what you got.
Just letting everyone know that this game is not dead. My motivation was for the past months, but also I've been very busy at work.
Алексей said, January 08, 2014, 02:18:25 pmSometimes, you just need a break from it all.This is true Alexei, I too took a break for a while. You need breaks bro, take em.
Yeah man. The problem is that when I get back and look at where I left off... it reminds me why I stopped in the first place, lol. Usually, it's something retarded like platforms for NZCR... or just the sheer amount of people asking me to make things that I've explained to them why I couldn't. Or why platforms don't work in the version of the stage THEY downloaded. So frustrating, lol.
Watta said, January 15, 2014, 03:28:29 pmPut something in your signature like "I DO NOT TAKE REQUESTS, GET LOST" or something Yeah, thing is I don't want to be stand-offish.+Genesis+ said, January 15, 2014, 03:48:42 pmIgnoring it seems....simpler. I have been for the most part... but I gotta bitch about it to someone, lol.
Welp, you've got me for that Take your time man. I know how it feels when you're totally out of motivation
Lol, I'll take that into serious consideration. I think I'll come back with a character from a series I've never publicly done before. We'll see though.
Алексей said, January 16, 2014, 02:21:01 pmLol, I'll take that into serious consideration. hahaha xDАлексей said, January 16, 2014, 02:21:01 pmI think I'll come back with a character from a series I've never publicly done before. We'll see though.I'll also be sure to send you that low res stage once I manage to re-make it Problem is, that my school was unofficially closed for 2 months due to the political crisis in my country so they're basically murdering us with school work right now. I have one day weekends now So I don't get enough time to work on mugen stuff for a while, though I'll make it at some point
Motivation is always like that. You have to wait sometimes wich gives you better ideas and all. I'm sure you'll have great releases when you are there again. Also, a character wich you never never made publicly is great. That will be excellent there.
Legend Ivanhoe said, February 20, 2014, 05:23:20 pmHell yes. It's been a while. Orochimaru's Lair is done. Next up is the Rocks stage. I'm not sure really what I'm going to do with that one, but I might make night and day into one stage. Meh, we'll see.
Day into Night transitions are fairly easy coding wise as long as the sprites aint all RGB'd. For some help, if you need it, you should check out Cafe Diss by Dissidia or Avalon by MarkPachi. They did some good transitions man
Алексей said, February 21, 2014, 03:50:32 amLegend Ivanhoe said, February 20, 2014, 05:23:20 pmHell yes. It's been a while. Orochimaru's Lair is done. Next up is the Rocks stage. I'm not sure really what I'm going to do with that one, but I might make night and day into one stage. Meh, we'll see.Yeah man, what about a transition stage? I´d be nice, anyways bro, good luck.
Well, it took a lot of consideration, but to avoid even more nightmares, I decided to keep the stages separate. Here was the result of the revamp: Posted: May 15, 2014, 02:06:47 amThat leaves Hills, Konoha Village, and Forest of Death to be revamped and given interactivity of some sort. Three more! Afterwards, I'll be focusing on character gameplay and possible effect do-overs.
Haha, will do. Something I realized about Konoha: It doesn't really have areas that would look right standing on them. You know, there's railings on the roofs of buildings and they're too far in the background. Not sure what I'm going to do with that.
Konoha Comp:The clouds roll across the sky slowly, covering the sun which shines through, creating subtle rays over the entire stage. To create more contrast, the foreground has been color corrected with a little deeper highs and lows. Hokage Mountain in the back has been darkened by a bit and blurred to keep in out of focus. This also saves the background from the pixelation that existed before. I think it's a lot less ugly now.In terms of platforms, there's nothing here that could really work for that kind of thing. NZC stages were designed that way, but this is from a different game. I might add something else to create some stage interactivity, but that's unconfirmed. Personally, I think it's fine without it. Not every stage needs to have same or even similar functionality.In MUGEN:As you can see here, the buildings are too far back to make the tops of them platforms. It wouldn't look natural.What do you think?
I'm just glad that you're back. You could edit the 'movable food cart' in the back, add some wooden boxes and put them in random places at the same level (zoffset) as the chars. Or you can just leave it as it is (i would recommend to add some birds on that beautiful sky).Like this:Sprites:
Hey Ivanhoe, yep I'm back (kind of). It's been on and off. I'll see what I can do about random objects; maybe a few crates. I don't know if birds will work their either. Seems kind of out of place and this a tall stage. Normally, you wouldn't see them. Posted: May 18, 2014, 04:40:17 amI did some testing with a crate today and it just seems like it's going to be too much trouble. Mugen doesn't have the capabilities I need to really bring something like that to life. Konoha will be released without any stage-interactivity.
Hills has been revamped. Check it out:That leaves only one more to be addressed: The Forest of Death.
Man this is perfect. You could also add...Code: [StageInfo]zoffsetlink = 1[BG Water Dummy]type = dummyid = 1[BGCtrlDef Water Dummy]looptime = -1ctrlID = 1[BGCtrl Floating]type = SinYtime = 0value = 3, 135Just to give the impression of the characters floating over the water.Even if you don't use this advice, the stage is great as it is. Congratulations.
Thanks! I added your example and adjusted it to look a bit better with the water. Thanks for the tip.
Since we're at the final stage for editing, I need some advice. Refer to the original thread for Forest of Death. I have some info posted there:http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/forest-death-147810.0.html
The characters haven't really been worked on too much. I have to finish that stage first and have been really busy lately.
Woaaaah that's quite literally the example of a great revamp The red eyes which are right on top of the tree trunks look kinda odd to me though.
Watta said, June 30, 2014, 09:04:50 amWoaaaah that's quite literally the example of a great revamp The red eyes which are right on top of the tree trunks look kinda odd to me though. Thanks! Yeah, it's kind of odd, but think of it like this: The space between the open field and the back forest contains a creature who happens to be in front of the tree. Even in Anime, sometimes those eyes don't contain a real body of mass until the creature emerges from the trees to attack or whatever. It's just an example, lol.Laharl said, June 30, 2014, 02:03:32 pmDat spider does he have any other purpose than to be randomly attacked? Nope, its purpose is to be creepy and annoying... like real life, lol. This one doesn't eat other bugs though. I'm limited by mugen too with what I can do. That spider was more difficult to code than the platforms were.
Just discovered this game thanks to some pals on IRc, and wow a good Naruto Mugen game? you're making one of my dream true man, keep it up!
Ryūku Tsukuyomi said, July 16, 2014, 01:38:15 amJust discovered this game thanks to some pals on IRc, and wow a good Naruto Mugen game? you're making one of my dream true man, keep it up!Nice! I'm happy to help, haha. Yeah, this thing has been in development for a long time now, but I'll be releasing a Beta sometime this year. Thanks for the comment.
Okay, so I think I'm going to post a total of 4 videos, showing 4 character updates per video. Otherwise, there's going to be a lot of "downtime" between my visible activity the beta release. Just an "FYI" for you guys. So far 2.9 are done.Updating a character requires fixing them first, because they are naturally "broken" and no longer work in the Full Game environment. After that, they undergo a huge gameplay change. Lots of testing, effect changes, possible move changes/additions. Whatever. Then an AI revamp and then after enough testing I deem them complete and move on to the next one.
Legend Ivanhoe said, August 04, 2014, 12:55:27 amNice, I'll be waiting and then I'll hit you back with some feedback. Cool, though what would you be leaving feedback on? The characters in the video? I can't release their updates to the public, because they wouldn't work in a normal mugen installation.
QuickFist said, August 04, 2014, 02:10:28 amI'll be awaiting those vids, I'm sure they'll look greatI'll do my best. I think I'll even put in those captions that I had in my last video. The four characters will be Pein (Obviously ), Itachi, Sasuke, and Deidara.
QuickFist said, August 04, 2014, 02:13:48 amAwesome! Some of my favs!Legend Ivanhoe said, August 04, 2014, 03:05:54 amMy feedback will be based in the video ofcourse. Gotcha.
Watta said, August 04, 2014, 11:48:14 amhehehe Pein the Guinea Pig Lol, yep. Pein underwent a transformation that left all the others in the dust. He's like the 6 million dollar man of Naruto. "We have the technology." XD
hahahahaPein's got the best gameplay so far IMO. This combo's are beast. I'm looking forward to your update videos
Watta said, August 04, 2014, 03:26:54 pmhahahahaPein's got the best gameplay so far IMO. This combo's are beast. I'm looking forward to your update videos He's actually changed a bit since you saw him last. He can combo into supers a lot better than before. Sasuke was too OP when I made my changes at first. His speed and power was practically unmatched. He would rush you, break your guard and destroy you. Rinse and repeat, lol.
Laharl said, August 04, 2014, 06:04:15 pmSasuke was nuts he murdered 2 other chars almost at the same time vs 1! It's true. I was being told about it as it was happening. I couldn't watch though. :\
he Barely lost but he got them both down to 1/4 of their hp once they got their meter though he was dead. But if it was just a physical fight Sasuke would of won hands down. You could of run it yourself you know being GOD the creator and all.
Laharl said, August 04, 2014, 06:09:13 pmhe Barely lost but he got them both down to 1/4 of their hp once they got their meter though he was dead. But if it was just a physical fight Sasuke would of won hands down. You could of run it yourself you know being GOD the creator and all.What are you implying? That I don't test my own creations? Huh? Huh? HUH? *scoff* I think not!Most of the time, I'm more busy creating them and adjusting things than watching them fight. AI isn't as important to me as overall gameplay.
well yeah its not but It's good to check it out to see how they do in putting up a fight I sure like to fight chars who fight back instead of Potatos.
Laharl said, August 04, 2014, 06:17:31 pmwell yeah its not but It's good to check it out to see how they do in putting up a fight I sure like to fight chars who fight back instead of Potatos.I do. I test them against each other and watch their AI fight. It reveals bugs to me at times as well. Just not to the extend that you do. And hell, if I did it ALL myself, then what would I need you for? XD
ultimategokunaruto said, August 08, 2014, 04:02:46 pmhello, will you add chakra charge for your characters or no? cause Justus take huge amount of chakraHi. No, I don't like chakra charging. It's a broken mechanic and Naruto characters should not have it. The tradeoff is that you gain chakra from attacking. You don't have to land hits either. You just build chakra as you attack. Certain jutsus don't take any chakra to do, but the supers all do.
QuoteHi. No, I don't like chakra charging. It's a broken mechanic and Naruto characters should not have it. The tradeoff is that you gain chakra from attacking. You don't have to land hits either. You just build chakra as you attack. Certain jutsus don't take any chakra to do, but the supers all do.oh ok thanks for the reply
ultimategokunaruto said, August 09, 2014, 11:22:35 amQuoteHi. No, I don't like chakra charging. It's a broken mechanic and Naruto characters should not have it. The tradeoff is that you gain chakra from attacking. You don't have to land hits either. You just build chakra as you attack. Certain jutsus don't take any chakra to do, but the supers all do.oh ok thanks for the replyNo problem. Don't let that deter you from trying the game when it's out. I assure you it's still very fun without that simplistic feature.
QuoteNo problem. Don't let that deter you from trying the game when it's out. I assure you it's still very fun without that simplistic feature.yeah ill try the game your characters are still the best around
ultimategokunaruto said, August 10, 2014, 07:04:42 amyeah ill try the game your characters are still the best around Thanks!
As promised, here is the first video, showcasing the first four characters that will be available in the public Demo. (Soon to be released.):
After testing this beast, I can say that this is probably one of the best mugen fullgames [to be] made ever. You can literally see the sheer amount of time and work Alexei has put into this project.Your work is phenomenal as ever bro!
Though I have been very busy, I had the honor of working on Sasuke and Itachi, I'm certain the rest of the team got the other two down pat.This beta will def be worth it.
Watta said, August 21, 2014, 11:52:33 amAfter testing this beast, I can say that this is probably one of the best mugen fullgames [to be] made ever. You can literally see the sheer amount of time and work Alexei has put into this project.Your work is phenomenal as ever bro! Thanks man! Posted: August 21, 2014, 12:55:24 pmUmezono said, August 21, 2014, 12:01:17 pmThough I have been very busy, I had the honor of working on Sasuke and Itachi, I'm certain the rest of the team got the other two down pat.This beta will def be worth it.I still want you to test out everything before it's released. Posted: August 21, 2014, 12:56:34 pmBy the way, due to the way that Sasuke has been drawn, palettes are almost impossible to make for him. So, I'm color separating him.
Yep, and I'm re-making the pals for every char, and adding 4 more.So not only the FX will look better!
QuickFist said, August 21, 2014, 06:49:49 pmYep, and I'm re-making the pals for every char, and adding 4 more.So not only the FX will look better!Teamwork!
I'm happy to report that the demo is finally out: http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/demo-nzcr-161979.0.html
Umezono said, August 21, 2014, 12:01:17 pmThough I have been very busy, I had the honor of working on Sasuke and Itachi, I'm certain the rest of the team got the other two down pat.This beta will def be worth it.The Beta was worth it, You did a very good job on both Sasuke and Itachi.
Алексей said, September 01, 2014, 08:17:07 amThanks man. Only those two? XDPein is my DESTROYER for Deidara Posted: September 01, 2014, 12:41:29 pmWatta said, September 01, 2014, 12:32:23 pmАлексей said, September 01, 2014, 08:17:07 amThanks man. Only those two? XDPein is my DESTROYER for Deidara
Алексей said, September 01, 2014, 08:17:07 amThanks man. Only those two? XDYeah, I hate deidera that dude loves to spam. (That or I suck. )
Guy With A Sword said, September 04, 2014, 01:59:35 pmYeah, I hate deidera that dude loves to spam. (That or I suck. )Lol, yeah his AI is a bit much. I'll tone it down in the next update.
Your demo is Great man. I like the way of using combo's. Having platforms for this Game is a plus for sure. Your effects already amazed me from the beginning and I can see that this will get some attention when it's completely done. There is no bug I discovered yet but, I'll let you know if I find anything there.
Omega said, September 04, 2014, 03:46:36 pmYour demo is Great man. I like the way of using combo's. Having platforms for this Game is a plus for sure. Your effects already amazed me from the beginning and I can see that this will get some attention when it's completely done. There is no bug I discovered yet but, I'll let you know if I find anything there.Thanks man. I agree. I really like the new direction the game has taken thanks to the advice of my beta testers. It meant that I had to redo what I had done before, but it's worth it and nice standard to build the rest upon. The only thing that kind of bugs me is the file size, but I fear that it's unavoidable.
Алексей said, September 04, 2014, 02:01:51 pmLol, yeah his AI is a bit much. I'll tone it down in the next update.MY SAVIOR :')Алексей said, September 04, 2014, 03:49:37 pmThanks man. I agree. I really like the new direction the game has taken thanks to the advice of my beta testers. It meant that I had to redo what I had done before, but it's worth it and nice standard to build the rest upon. The only thing that kind of bugs me is the file size, but I fear that it's unavoidable.The file size isn't a big deal at all. If you upload it to mediafire, people could use IDM to download it. It was easy for me to DL, and I'm the guy with 512kbps ;-;
Watta said, September 05, 2014, 06:24:27 amАлексей said, September 04, 2014, 02:01:51 pmLol, yeah his AI is a bit much. I'll tone it down in the next update.MY SAVIOR :')Алексей said, September 04, 2014, 03:49:37 pmThanks man. I agree. I really like the new direction the game has taken thanks to the advice of my beta testers. It meant that I had to redo what I had done before, but it's worth it and nice standard to build the rest upon. The only thing that kind of bugs me is the file size, but I fear that it's unavoidable.The file size isn't a big deal at all. If you upload it to mediafire, people could use IDM to download it. It was easy for me to DL, and I'm the guy with 512kbps ;-;LOL, yeah maybe just a bit lower. Less spammy, though that's going to be tough with Deidara.Eh, I would need to pay for MediaFire to do that I think. Anyways, it really does belong on my site, since I pay for that too. I might as well use it.
In case anyone is wondering, this is where most of my time on the project is going. Kakashi... Here's my DA account and NZC Sprites gallery so you can see what I have so far and keep up to date if you're interested. http://kenshinx0.deviantart.com/gallery/51474282/NZC-Sprites. No worries, the project isn't dead. It's just that A LOT of spriting needs doing and I've been taking breaks often (damn you DragonNest for existing!). It's exhaustive at times, lol.
Awesome news bro, I'm sorry that i couldn't be of any help, I've been really busy, but I'm still following NZCR related stuff. Keep it up!
That's okay dude. I'm used to going it practically alone. Luckily, I have some sound help from Laharl, but testing is pretty much done until there's something to test lol.
I do what I can. but yeah kakashi's animations are so damn awkward and weird I wish I could sprite so I could fix them so he doesn't have to do them all.
Laharl said, October 29, 2014, 03:50:09 amI do what I can. but yeah kakashi's animations are so damn awkward and weird I wish I could sprite so I could fix them so he doesn't have to do them all.So learn it already! I'm waiting... XD
Алексей said, October 29, 2014, 12:23:48 pmLaharl said, October 29, 2014, 03:50:09 amI do what I can. but yeah kakashi's animations are so damn awkward and weird I wish I could sprite so I could fix them so he doesn't have to do them all.So learn it already! I'm waiting... XDYou know he won't, he will expect Zaibatsu to do the spriting for him.
Dark Kanbei said, October 30, 2014, 06:48:33 amYou know he won't, he will expect Zaibatsu to do the spriting for him. Lol, I know, right? Constantly getting excuses.
I do not sprite D< get off my back people I said I wish I could but I do not have the talent to do so. I have tried to learn it does not come out well.
Laharl said, October 30, 2014, 02:21:27 pmI do not sprite D< get off my back people I said I wish I could but I do not have the talent to do so. I have tried to learn it does not come out well.Nor do mine, but I still make do. Also, we're just joking. I know I have to do the spriting alone. I knew that from the beginning.
yours come out way better honestly. Secondly I knew you were. I wish text translated to voice tones but yea.
Laharl said, October 30, 2014, 02:27:25 pmyours come out way better honestly. Secondly I knew you were. I wish text translated to voice tones but yea.Yeah, it fails to do so on so many levels. I end up reading most text as condescending even though it might not be. :\ Anyways, well yeah, but to be fair, I've never even seen one sprite from you.
No Promises. Hell I laughed at my own past work I attempted to draw Laharl from scratch it went about as well as you can guess. Back on topic with how popular Naruto is I am amazed not so many people have offered help.
Well I'm not that surprised. Just because you're a fan of something doesn't mean you always are willing to contribute. I like Family Guy, but wouldn't want to help with the art of it. It's a pretty natural response I think. Also, people have their own projects usually.
So... Kakashi is still in progress and has really been draining my energy and motivation, but what was done recently was:- Suiryuudan Path Change. Instead of following a basic parabola, the path has been changed to something a little more safe to use. The dragon comes out and up, but takes a sharp arc downwards. This means that the only way to really dodge is it in the air. Even then, if you're too low, you'd get hit.- Kamui revamp. New effect and startup. The Sharingan eye is gone.- Bug fixes and the usual.Other than that, I'm (still) trying to sprite or resprite some moves. I'm just not happy with them.
Sounds great to me, can't wait to see the new Fx. But, what aren't you happy with exactly? Are you going to post a preview of this new moves?
Legend Ivanhoe said, November 24, 2014, 07:16:44 pmSounds great to me, can't wait to see the new Fx. But, what aren't you happy with exactly? Are you going to post a preview of this new moves?Well, the original artists decided to give Kakashi extremely awkward moves for just basic attacks. I decided that they had to be redone to look more natural, but I can't sprite worth crap. Because of this, my first attempt needs to be redone. I don't know what it is really. They look good animated in a .gif, but for some reason in game, they just don't work.I might. Not really sure about that.
I will do some Sprites for you once I finish some of My own Sprites. Also, do you have any new updates buddy?
I need them badly lol. Nah, I've been a little too discouraged from the whole thing and took a break.
