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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#121  November 05, 2009, 11:28:20 am
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Good going focusing on my obvious hyperbole and ignoring the rest of my post. GG.

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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#122  November 05, 2009, 12:37:30 pm
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Well, if you think Fox is biased and the others aren't
Are you actually unable to read ? That means your judgement is highly questionable. I said several times I don't watch the others. I don't know how the others are. But I do see how fox News is, so I say it's bad. And you can't change anything to that.
Is that how you do things, read only pieces of what you see just as long as you can make use of it, and ignore everything else ?
This isn't about the others, nobody said anything about the other channels. This is about Fox News. Nobody cares about the other channels. You and KoM are pretty much the only ones who have been trying to say that the other channels are just as bad, but AS I SAID, this is completely unrelated.
Byakko said, November 05, 2009, 01:58:33 am
When you're told that this bad country X is doing evil nuclear tests, you don't just deflect the accusation simply by saying there's another evil country Y that does bad nuclear tests. Who gives a damn about your comparison ? It's not an excuse. The fact is, this country is doing bad things. We'll care about the other in due time.
You can't just question people's judgement simply because they're pointing out the bad things done by the news channel you like most. Again, you're deflecting. As far as I've seen, NOBODY has said the other channels were perfect.
What you're doing is, you see people say "deforestation is bad for the planet !" and you answer "what about marijuana ? It's bad for the health too ! If you don't say the same, then I'll question your judgement !" and hoping people will stop hounding deforestation. Even though it doesn't change anything and it's totally not the subject.
The truth is that you are completely unable to have a critical view on your own side, you can't accept that people point out the flaws of your favorite channel. You just deflect by saying others are bad, and if we say the others are alright, then our judgement is questionable ; you think this will give you a right to let your channel off the hook.

By the way, when you listed your degrees, I thought you were Vyx. You're just as bad.
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Last Edit: November 05, 2009, 01:09:59 pm by Byakko

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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#123  November 05, 2009, 01:20:43 pm
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In spain, journalists writing articles that denigrate the royal house or the presidency, can be fined by 2k euros if considered "out of line". I dont think you guys would be better off with that model, Fox news journalists and editors would have already been imprisioned.
What they are doing...  freedom of the press is one thing, but freedom to populate lies? I am amused it took this long for them to be busted.
That Link shamrock posted shows a good example, "obama is spreading a cult around him, LIKE HITLER", next news piece"Some are claiming obama is a cult leading nazi!!" next new piece "DEBATE : Nazi cults in america, Nazis in the white house".

You guys got some of the weirdest "media" models everywhere.

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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#124  November 05, 2009, 01:27:23 pm
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Iced said, November 05, 2009, 11:28:20 am
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Good going focusing on my obvious hyperbole and ignoring the rest of my post. GG.

Lasombra Demon said, November 05, 2009, 07:16:55 am
Let's give it a twist.

I'm gonna be blunt and say that I actually think you are quite smart in some of your comments, but that I kinda resent your tone and that you sometimes sound a bit arrogant, specially since you are good but not *that* brilliant (nor am I, of course, for that matter). I also think you could read more on philosophy and sociology and back up your claims a bit more, defining your positions on authors and whole schools of thought and not just tossed ideas. I think, too, that if you did that AND took some extra care to NOT be offensive, you could be a nice guy to listen to and learn from. I don't mind questioning my own ideas, I've sometimes found myself agreeing with stuff I thought I never would after listening to the proper arguments, properly presented.

Lasombra Demon said, November 05, 2009, 08:08:36 am
Atomic said, November 05, 2009, 07:53:04 am
We can talk educational disciplines and their merits tomorrow, I'm going to bed soon.
But that's not what I wanted t... never mind. :-\

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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#125  November 05, 2009, 03:30:08 pm
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Shamrock, the Hard Mod said, November 05, 2009, 08:21:08 am
FT. Lewis. Good Times. I still haven't recovered from the hangover. Also not counting deployments.

On the topic;

I was watching MSNBC earlier today. They are turning into fox. They got this new fag, Ed something. Fucking horrible, I mean he isn't making shit up like fox, but he isn't let people rebuttal his opinions and he shuts the opposition down.

I think that because fox gets better ratings they are trying to become more like them. This would be a mistake because a liberal will just change the station.

You're talking about Ed Shultz.  He's MSNBC's attempt to show that there are still straight, white men on the Political Left.  Have you watched Olbermann?  He's far, far worse, and he's never had a person on his show who offered a dissenting opinion.  Even Hannity and O'Reilly (both of whom I don't like) do that.

The only person I can stand to watch for an extended period of time on MSNBC is Rachel Maddow, because she is the least vitriolic.  Even then I still disagree with about 90% of her analyses, though.

Iced said, November 05, 2009, 11:28:20 am
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Good going focusing on my obvious hyperbole and ignoring the rest of my post. GG.



Your posts are completely hyperbolic, so I see nothing else to focus on.  Also, there was only one central idea in that post, which I addressed.
Last Edit: November 05, 2009, 03:46:47 pm by Atomic

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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#126  November 06, 2009, 05:18:27 am
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Can we all just agree that Fox News is trying to bring back McCarthyism?
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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#127  November 06, 2009, 07:11:33 am
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The whole media is fucked up. Now it’s either that I’m now a lot more aware of what’s going on or this country is going down the drains.

I sort of laugh that every little thing that Obama does he gets raped by the republicans but when W.Bush was in office there were hardly anything against him. Obama is getting more heat little less than a year from Republicans then Bush did in his many years of office but that’s just what I’ve witnessed and heard of back in the days.

I don't say fancy words like political people (most of the reason is because I don't know what they mean time to time... THANKS SCHOOL!) But I get my point across.

Plus about comparing and such. Of course every news station is biased at one point or another, but we should consider and look at who is the most and who makes the most impact. I am very uneasy that there is one conservative News Station while the Liberals have like 5 as I believe the more stations we have the better we get the understanding and see other people’s views. So far (and very disturbing) the two comedians Steven and John on Comedy Central seem to grasp the full understanding more often than the everyday news stations when it comes to politics.

The US is divided into states of embarrassment that drives our anger on our neighbors without swallowing their pride. I do admit that there are other countries that are worse off when it comes with freedom. And I’m sad to say this but Canada is looking better day by day. And after watching what Fox said about Canada, it really makes me sad. Don’t say "It’s not really part of Fox," Well if it’s not part of Fox then why is it shown during Fox as part of a segment? And why the hell Fox didn’t cancel that segment or even talking with that guy asking what they are going to talk about. What really made me mad is that Fox took about a couple of months to even apologize (what I’ve heard) to Canada... What’s worse is that Fox or that douche bag tries to downplay it.


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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#128  November 06, 2009, 10:48:24 pm
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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#129  November 07, 2009, 06:36:52 am
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Cyanide said, November 05, 2009, 08:43:20 am
Isn't fox the only right leaning news show? Like, properly right leaning. Not centre right or anything like that. So you have a country of XX million people (i'm making up numbers) and it's split relatively 50/50 for people on the right or left. you've got 50% watching fox, cos it suits their views. Then you have 50% split over 4-5 other channels because those one's suit their views. Course fox will have the highest ratings. Don't emulate it to achieve them.

You might manage to LOWER their ratings, but i doubt you'd really improve your own because you'd lose people from the left who DID watch you.
I just want to know when we're going to not get a left, not a center, and not a right leaning news show.  Like a news program that reports news for a change.  No laughing at village idiots or showing some cute little animal or framing your news story to give the perspective the higher ups want.

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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#130  November 07, 2009, 07:11:01 am
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Politifact turned into a TV show, eh?

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#131  November 07, 2009, 09:47:41 am
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I just want to know when we're going to not get a left, not a center, and not a right leaning news show.  Like a news program that reports news for a change.
You'd have to come here. Our media on TV isn't biased one way or the other. The papers on the other hand give our government on the left a lot of shit. On the news it's just whatever the problem of the week is. Left or right.

Right now, it's MP perks. Something i think should die. It won't, but it should.


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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#132  November 08, 2009, 01:08:03 am
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I'm glad this has not turned into a flame war, because it's easy to flame..

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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#133  November 08, 2009, 01:22:01 am
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What is it with you and flamewars, really :P
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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#134  November 08, 2009, 01:46:14 am
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I'm just amazed that this topic has not turned into a flame war.

These type of topics are usually easy to flame...

Would choosing me for the question thread be a
unique experience?  I can't really say.

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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#135  November 08, 2009, 02:39:59 am
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Are you trying to start a flamewar ??
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#136  November 08, 2009, 03:27:48 am
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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#137  November 08, 2009, 03:40:54 am
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Byakko said, November 08, 2009, 02:39:59 am
Are you trying to start a flamewar ??

No I am not.

I'm just amazed this has not turned into a flamewar...

Usually topics discussing politics and religion tend to turn into flamewars and then they get unfortunetly deleted or they get locked.

Would choosing me for the question thread be a
unique experience?  I can't really say.

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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#138  November 08, 2009, 05:44:16 am
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I've seen you post that about 5 times, quit trolling.


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Re: Obama is trying to remove fox news channel
#139  November 08, 2009, 11:16:29 am
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That's it, he's asking for a flamewar !!
*picks up torch and pitchfork*
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#140  November 08, 2009, 10:27:42 pm
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