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#121  August 21, 2012, 02:39:26 pm
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who is dean and who is sam then?
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#122  August 21, 2012, 02:43:03 pm
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dean = vergil
sam = dante

it wasnt their looks, more like how they talked.
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#123  August 21, 2012, 04:24:05 pm
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That only means you can't follow a discussion properly
haha except i did. you claimed an absolute (nobody can use nigger in a way that is not insulting), then countered your own argument because iced (who you've repeatedly gotten into arguments with previously) said the same thing. it displays that you don't really know what you're talking about and will change your stance on a whim if someone you dislike posts something.  it was really funny reading you trying to claim this was a proper counterargument or anything like that. keep being stubborn and in denial of your own incompetence.

btw. I actually thought Titiln was trolling Byakko so I thought i might've ruined the joke. But this post was actually pretty suspect... in terms of contradictions and all:
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/people-that-want-dantes-sweet-sweet-man-meats-the-debate--143955.msg1625727.html#msg1625727
no i was just pointing out something stupid he posted
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#124  August 21, 2012, 04:39:24 pm
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I know, you still don't get it even after I tell you what it is, you just reject it (which doesn't mean you're right). That only means you can't follow a discussion properly and you're only trying to list contradictions just to insult people you don't like, while not providing anything to the discussion.

Hey, by the way, don't miss my other contradicting posts made after that where I agree with people saying "you can't use the word nigger without being insulting", see how far it fuels your anger and how much you keep calling stupid those things you don't understand.
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#125  August 21, 2012, 05:19:08 pm
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What the fuck is this gay discussion ?

Context is all that matters. And even though one can feel "insulted", it's just a way of talking. Gay is meant as girly, Jew is meant as niggard, that's all.

On an unrelated matter, political correctness and auto-censure is a shitty thing. You can't make jokes about blacks, blondes, gays, Jews, babies, girls, guys, politicians, Asians, pedophilia, Ethiopians, Belgians, etc. without somebody getting offended anymore. People should buy a sense of humor.
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#126  August 21, 2012, 05:22:36 pm
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sense of humour is subjective, the argument was about if those things WERE insults, which they are!
Ofcourse that depending on context you can say it was meant as something else, but even girly is an insult, it implies that something being femenine is a downgrade from whats "normal" .
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#127  August 21, 2012, 05:24:16 pm
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What the fuck is this gay discussion ?

Context is all that matters. And even though one can feel "insulted", it's just a way of talking. Gay is meant as girly, Jew is meant as niggard, that's all.

On an unrelated matter, political correctness and auto-censure is a shitty thing. You can't make jokes about blacks, blondes, gays, Jews, babies, girls, guys, politicians, Asians, pedophilia, Ethiopians, Belgians, etc. without somebody getting offended anymore. People should buy a sense of humor.

I don't have any idea what you are talking about because I am not a huge faggot.

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#128  August 21, 2012, 05:34:40 pm
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sense of humour is subjective, the argument was about if those things WERE insults, which they are!
Ofcourse that depending on context you can say it was meant as something else, but even girly is an insult, it implies that something being femenine is a downgrade from whats "normal" .

So, should rules be made about what we are allowed to write, because someone can be offended if someone writes he finds a game really gay (in the context that it is a shitty game) ?

Beside that, if i or anyone else believes the new dante looks fucking gay, it is NOT an insult to anyone in this forum. It is a complaint about a shitty design and directed at the designers. How someone can take this as an insult is really beyound me.

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#129  August 21, 2012, 05:35:25 pm
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I don't think the problem is "something being feminine is a downgrade".
I can say "this girl is manly" and you'd say this means it implies that something being masculine is a downgrade too. It's not an attack towards men, as much as the first statement (girly) was not an attack towards women. It's just a way on conveying things based on (stupid or not, you choose) stereotypes.

In people's minds, a man should be manly in a game where you're controlling a vampire with guns and swords. In DOA Extreme Bitch Volleyball (!!!) girls should be girly since you're seeing them in their swimming suit and that's the appeal to the buyers. People usually expect their stuff to follow "standards" (as in stereotypes) and use words to show their disappointment, and sometimes use ... yeah ... "insults". When saying "Dante is gay and Vergil is a girly emo dumbfuck", it IS an insult, but not towards the gay community, the feminists nor the emo community.

I agree it may not be a wise choice of words, I understand a homosexuel going "hey, not all homosexuals looks like Dante!!!", but it's just a way of talking, and people should not feel offended for a yes or a no.

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#130  August 21, 2012, 05:38:26 pm
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but even girly is an insult, it implies that something being femenine is a downgrade from whats "normal" .
No, not if someone likes girly things. A barbie doll is girly, pink wallpaper is girly, and there's probably nothing wrong with that. You're a little too oversensitive there.
Twilight is girly, as in, it's for little girls, with its girly characters.

So, should rules be made about what we are allowed to write, because someone can be offended if someone writes he finds a game really gay (in the context that it is a shitty game) ?
Probably not the best wording since the problem people have is that you just again used the term "gay" as meaning "shitty", and by association, everything "gay" including homosexuals become shitty.
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#131  August 21, 2012, 06:01:51 pm
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So, should rules be made about what we are allowed to write, because someone can be offended if someone writes he finds a game really gay (in the context that it is a shitty game) ?

Beside that, if i or anyone else believes the new dante looks fucking gay, it is NOT an insult to anyone in this forum. It is a complaint about a shitty design and directed at the designers. How someone can take this as an insult is really beyound me.
You were calling Dante's new design "gay" so by extension, even if you didn't mean it or not, you're implying gay things or anything related to being gay is bad. Which is why people will take it the wrong way.

Edit: Damn it. Ninja'd by Byakko. :V
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#132  August 21, 2012, 06:15:26 pm
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In people's minds, a man should be manly in a game where you're controlling a vampire with guns and swords. In DOA Extreme Bitch Volleyball (!!!) girls should be girly since you're seeing them in their swimming suit and that's the appeal to the buyers. People usually expect their stuff to follow "standards" (as in stereotypes) and use words to show their disappointment, and sometimes use ... yeah ... "insults". When saying "Dante is gay and Vergil is a girly emo dumbfuck", it IS an insult, but not towards the gay community, the feminists nor the emo community.

I agree it may not be a wise choice of words, I understand a homosexuel going "hey, not all homosexuals looks like Dante!!!", but it's just a way of talking, and people should not feel offended for a yes or a no.

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You are using girly and gay to mean bad or dumb, so its an insult in itself! Even if its a way of talking you need to understand that when a homosexual gets bothered, they arent going "not all homosexuals look like dante!" they are going "homosexuals are not as shitty as dante"
in the same vein, if people started calling twilight "twilight is so emo" , they would be implying that emo is an insult in that context. 
This isnt rocket science!! >:| .
People in the chans call "prefix-fag" to about everything and within context they are not using it insultively, but it doesnt stop being an insult just because it has contexts where its not. They will call artists Drawfags, and cumpliment them on their skills, but that doesnt mean that outside of those chans they would approach a artist and go like "SUP drawfag!" and expect them to not be insulted.

about byakko, no idea where he is going with the whole "you are too oversensitive" thing. People have been using female adjectivization to diminish males for decades precisely because society-wise being seen femenine is considered inferior. @rajaa: summed it up best in some thread a while ago.
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#133  August 21, 2012, 06:25:13 pm
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I think, sensitive girly faggots should wear a pin or put a sticker on their car or their forehead, so other people won't be accidentally insulting them during conversation.
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#134  August 21, 2012, 06:25:59 pm
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also red stars on jews, so we can tell them apart.
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#135  August 21, 2012, 06:31:01 pm
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after I change my avatar with a christian cross gif , you infidels better be aware not to diss christians whenever I'm present
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#136  August 21, 2012, 06:36:21 pm
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how about gay people? rainbow badge?

the new dante kinda looks like julio(gay guy) from the simpsons.
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#137  August 21, 2012, 06:36:54 pm
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Note that my posts never implied that all of that stuff should not be considered as insults. They are, in a sense, insults.
I'm just saying people should stuff being overanalyzing stuff and should stop getting on their high horses and feeling offended each time they hear a word.
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#138  August 21, 2012, 06:38:19 pm
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i'll insult whoever i want!!
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#139  August 21, 2012, 06:40:44 pm
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Note that my posts never implied that all of that stuff should not be considered as insults. They are, in a sense, insults.
I'm just saying people should stuff being overanalyzing stuff and should stop getting on their high horses and feeling offended each time they hear a word.
No one was actually offended by the use of those words.

But that doesn't make them any less insulting. That's not being on a high horse, it's just common sense.
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#140  August 21, 2012, 06:41:11 pm
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@cybaster: but thats unrealistic.  Its more realistic for people to not dismiss that people can get offended by those insults and understand it from the perspective of whoever got offended due to empathy.

we all have friends we can call all kinds of names and they dont get offended , but change the setting a bit and its easy to strike nerves.
I have black friends that will go "my nigga!" but if someone else called them a nigger in the street they would get offended. Just as they would get mad if they heard people complaining about niggers.