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Sean Altly

Re: Possible Strikers System
#141  March 19, 2013, 11:30:09 pm
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Hmm, not sure, I'll have to see. To be frank, Turn Team Mode is very important to me and I wouldn't want to lose it. If it's not doable I may go back to personal strikers.
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Re: Possible Strikers System
#142  March 20, 2013, 12:06:26 am
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Sean Altly said, March 19, 2013, 10:08:08 pm
It would be like MVC1, where you are assigned one at the beginning of the match and you keep it the entire time. Different strikers will have different maximum usage amounts. It would work exactly like the one in MVC1, except the roulette will occur at the beginning of the match instead of on the character select screen (since that's not possible here).

Ah great, see I misinterpreted it as COMPLETELY random assists because lolmugenlimitations.

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Re: Possible Strikers System
#143  March 20, 2013, 12:59:31 am
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Oh yeah, I know that would be chaos and not useful at all. It was always going to be like this.

Here's a tentative list of characters planned as strikers:

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Re: Possible Strikers System
#144  March 20, 2013, 03:20:05 am
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In the case of strikers, it's better to not use more than two from any given franchise, for the sake of variety. Also a personal nitpick, don't put any more Final fantasy characters, RPG's aren't just Final Fantasy, and I believe you can get nice characters from any other RPG's.
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They could make a fighting game where the roster was nothing but beavers made out of cotton candy and I'd play if the gameplay was good because that's really all I give a shit about.
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Re: Possible Strikers System
#145  March 20, 2013, 03:44:05 am
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Are the strikers character specific or selectable?

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Re: Possible Strikers System
#146  March 20, 2013, 03:46:48 am
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Sean Altly said, March 19, 2013, 10:08:08 pm
It would be like MVC1, where you are assigned one at the beginning of the match and you keep it the entire time. Different strikers will have different maximum usage amounts. It would work exactly like the one in MVC1, except the roulette will occur at the beginning of the match instead of on the character select screen (since that's not possible here).
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Re: Possible Strikers System
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Re: Possible Strikers System
#148  March 20, 2013, 04:34:56 am
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I don't know of any other characters that use this system off hand, but Syn's Strider has the potential issues I'd figure may happen unless you ask around and see if there's a way it can carry over after you're defeated. With Syn's strider in Simul mode, both characters have their own selectable assist which overlap one another (which is  something you wouldn't want), and in turn mode, after you're defeated and try to summon an assist you get nothing, except his animation.

Maybe ask around if someone has implemented a system that actually retains itself over a match, and study or use part of the code to base your own.

Also, nice list of strikers, for some of these you may even be able to use existing characters as bases and maybe edit them a bit Vash (nevermind the existing sprites aren't great but there is a pretty decent looking Wolfwood!), Lara, Knuckles, Luigi, Barry Burton to name a few

I'm a bit surprised also you didn't add any DC heroes/villains as strikers, my vote would go to Harley, Joker or Batman for sure
Last Edit: March 20, 2013, 04:40:54 am by C-G-U

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Re: Possible Strikers System
#149  March 20, 2013, 04:14:48 pm
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Let's see, for Capcom side:

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Metool
Dr. Wily
Lou
Saki
Unknown Soldier
Firebrand
Devilot
Ton Pooh
Sigma *
Kyosuke

These are cool!

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Chuck
Tom *

No idea who are those.

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Sakura
Dudley
Guile
Cammy
Cody

That's five street fighters. I'd shorten that to at least one by game, like one from SF1, one from SF2 and so on.

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Barry Burton *
Leon
Tyrant

And that's three RE characters, i think just one is enough.

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Felicia

I'd change her with any other more interesting Darkstalker and who isn't as overused as her, like Rikuo, Anakaris or Lord Raptor.

Characters I'd add to that list:

Son Son
Captain Commando
Cyber Blue (Battle Circuit): Could be edited from Captain Commando
Momotaro the Sailor (Pirate Ship Higemaru): Could be edited from Cody maybe

Now for The World side:

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Vash the Stampede *
Adam Hunter *
Krillin *
Lara Croft *
Marty McFly *
Shawn Spencer *
Macho Man Randy Savage *
Luigi *
Knuckles *
Dr. Robotnik *
Wolverine
Blade *
Nathan Drake *
Kula
John McClane *
Vegeta
Liu Kang *
Reptile
Kazuya

Now this is a good list, except for...

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Rinoa *
Cloud *

I'd remove these completely. If I were to suggest any FF character I'd say Gilgamesh, Warrior of Light or anything from before FFVI.

Characters I'd add to this list:

Tar Man (Return of the Living Dead): Could be easily edited from Jill's zombie helpers
Jack Burton (Big Trouble in Little China)
Marco Rossi (Metal Slug)
Slime (Dragon Quest)
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They could make a fighting game where the roster was nothing but beavers made out of cotton candy and I'd play if the gameplay was good because that's really all I give a shit about.
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Re: Possible Strikers System
#150  March 20, 2013, 04:53:23 pm
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Magma Dragoon MK II said, March 20, 2013, 03:20:05 am
In the case of strikers, it's better to not use more than two from any given franchise, for the sake of variety.

I don't have the luxury of setting an arbitrary rule like this. Sprites are limited, and if I end up making 200 sprites for strikers, I might as well have made one good, full character.

Magma Dragoon MK II said, March 20, 2013, 03:20:05 am
Also a personal nitpick, don't put any more Final fantasy characters, RPG's aren't just Final Fantasy, and I believe you can get nice characters from any other RPG's.

None that I'd care to sprite, to be frank. I wanted another FFVIII character because it's my personal favorite, and Cloud is very popular. I wouldn't omit both of them because of your personal nitpick (your words), no offense.

As for your other post:

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Chuck
Tom *

No idea who are those.

-Chuck as in Chuck Greene from Dead Rising 2
-Tom is Alex's mentor, the one that looks like Jean Reno, something that was discussed quite a bit in the first two pages of this thread.

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Sakura
Dudley
Guile
Cammy
Cody

That's five street fighters. I'd shorten that to at least one by game, like one from SF1, one from SF2 and so on.

You mean like how they already are?

Sakura - Street Fighter Alpha 2
Dudley - Street Fighter III
Guile - Street Fighter II
Cammy - Super Street Fighter II
Cody - Final Fight

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Re: Possible Strikers System
#151  March 20, 2013, 07:45:50 pm
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Republican Car Double from Skullgirls? That would be pretty money.

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Re: Possible Strikers System
#152  March 20, 2013, 08:02:14 pm
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Sean Altly said, March 20, 2013, 04:53:23 pm
Magma Dragoon MK II said, March 20, 2013, 03:20:05 am
In the case of strikers, it's better to not use more than two from any given franchise, for the sake of variety.

I don't have the luxury of setting an arbitrary rule like this. Sprites are limited, and if I end up making 200 sprites for strikers, I might as well have made one good, full character.

Magma Dragoon MK II said, March 20, 2013, 03:20:05 am
Also a personal nitpick, don't put any more Final fantasy characters, RPG's aren't just Final Fantasy, and I believe you can get nice characters from any other RPG's.

None that I'd care to sprite, to be frank. I wanted another FFVIII character because it's my personal favorite, and Cloud is very popular. I wouldn't omit both of them because of your personal nitpick (your words), no offense.


Then again, I'm not telling you what you should do or demanding something, just stating my honest opinion. And I take no offense at all.
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Re: Possible Strikers System
#153  March 20, 2013, 09:30:56 pm
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Cool. Also, the reason Captain Commando isn't a striker is because I'd like to leave the door open for him to be included in the roster at some point.
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Re: Possible Strikers System
#154  March 20, 2013, 10:32:12 pm
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How will you do the roulette? Would there be any visual way of letting the player know what Striker is picked? And about FF whatever happened to the Sabin possibility?

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^regarding this, I'd probably suggest a simple small portrait, name and use number would suffice, maybe even plan a location out on the lifebars for location

Also Magus' version of Jill has some Barry Burton sprites added that may be of use. I would probably round out the Street Fighter characters to also include someone from SF1, like Gen, Birdie, Adon, or the cvs styled edits I remember seeing of Joe, Mike, Lee and some others that may require minor editing. There is also a Liu Kang out there which is an edit of Fei Long that you could probably use, and edit as well.
Last Edit: March 21, 2013, 12:14:08 am by C-G-U

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Re: Possible Strikers System
#156  March 21, 2013, 05:16:54 am
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The list looks better
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Re: Possible Strikers System
#157  March 21, 2013, 07:16:49 pm
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Characters I want to see as strikers:

Capcom:

- Dudley (Street Fighter)
- Jon Talbain (Darkstalkers)
- Lilith (Darkstalkers)
- June Lin Milliam (Star Gladiator)
- Regina (Dino Crisis)
- Gutsman (Megaman Classic)
- Phoenix Wright * (Ace Attorney)
- Nathan Spencer * (Bionic Commando)
- Hinata Wakaba (Rival Schools)
- Tessa (Red Earth)
- Yellow Iris * (Battle Circuit)
- Albert Wesker * (Resident Evil)
- Pyron (Darkstalkers)
- Urien (Street Fighter)
- Axl (Megaman X)

The World:
- Buffy Summers * (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
- Harry Potter *
- Percy Jackson * (Percy Jackson and the Olympians)
- Gandalf the White * (Lord of the Rings)
- Spawn (Image Universe - Owned by Todd McFarlane)
- Raiden * (Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance attire)
- Rogue the Bat * (Sonic the Hedgehog)
- Hellboy (Dark Horse Comics - Owned by Mike Mignola)
- Yugo Ogami * (Bloody Roar)
- Undertaker * (WWE)
- Heihachi Mishima (Tekken)
- Emma Frost (Marvel Universe)
- Aquaman (DC Universe)
- Spike * (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

* Note: Spriters needed if they are interested.

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Re: Possible Strikers System
#158  March 21, 2013, 10:29:57 pm
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^Wesker and Hinata are going to be part of the roster so they wouldn't be strikers at all.

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Re: Possible Strikers System
#159  March 22, 2013, 01:40:10 am
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Guess I'll put my own striker wishlist, too! (put 15 on each side)

Capcom:

* Retsu (Street Fighter)
* Dudley (Street Fighter III)
* Son Son (Son Son)
* Firebrand (Gargoyle's Quest)
* Momotaro (Pirate Ship Higemaru) *
* Rikuo (Darkstalkers)
* B.B. Hood (Vampire Savior)
* Nathan Spencer (Bionic Commando) *
* Cyber Blue (Battle Circuit) *
* Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney) *
* Regina (Dino Crisis)
* Stuck (Giga Wing) *
* Rolento (Final Fight)
* Akira Kazama (Rival Schools) *
* Kenji (Red Earth)

The World:

* Duke Nukem
* Bomberman *
* Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden) *
* Jack Burton (Big Trouble in Little China) *
* T-800 (Terminator) *
* Darkwing Duck
* Marco Rossi (Metal Slug)
* Tar Man (Return of the Living Dead) *
* Simon Belmont (Castlevania)
* Raziel (Legacy of Kain)
* Robocop *
* Joseph Joestar (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)
* Karnov (like, almost every Data East game)
* Darth Vader (Star Wars) *
* John McLane (Die Hard) *
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Re: Possible Strikers System
#160  March 22, 2013, 01:47:17 am
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Sean Altly said, March 18, 2013, 10:32:48 pm
If you want to make suggestions, feel free, but don't just spout off random names. If you want to suggest someone, include what attack they'd do and if possible who might be a good base for an animation or two.

I'd also like to add, like I said before, if I end up having to make 200 sprites for strikers, I might as well have made one good, full character. These lists involve so much custom sprite work that they're just not reasonable.
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