The Mugen Fighters Guild - Priority for Slash "weapon based" attacks?

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Priority for Slash "weapon based" attacks?

#1 August 06, 2010, 04:54:52 pm

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I don't know if this should be here or in the discussion section, anyway my question is this, characters that wield swords, samurai shodown characters for one "Haomaru, Jubei, Genjuro", their sword wiffs can hurt you. Does that need to have priority as well?

Outlining clsn1 with clsn2?

This has been bothering me for a while so I though I'd ask.

2OS

Re: Priority for Slash "weapon based" attacks?

#2 August 06, 2010, 07:02:18 pm

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Really there is no right or wrong answer since opinions vary, since it's a weapon my personal answer is no

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Re: Priority for Slash "weapon based" attacks?

#3 August 06, 2010, 07:33:59 pm

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good question

i'm making a char with a sword and i have the same question...

2OS said, August 06, 2010, 07:02:18 pm

Really there is no right or wrong answer since opinions vary, since it's a weapon my personal answer is no

No for which question? "priority for slash weapon based attacks" or "outlining clsn1 with clsn2?"
Btw i will probably make no priorities...

2OS

Re: Priority for Slash "weapon based" attacks?

#4 August 06, 2010, 08:04:43 pm

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Both questions have the same meaning

If some character punches or kicks your sword, why on earth would YOU receive damage ? Makes no sense IMO

That's my view / opinion, I expect different ppl to have different views as if it were any other debate, that's what MAKES a debate, and that's why there are never any wrong answers unless actual facts are stated [ passionate opinions for / about something != facts goddammit ]

To quote random forum users that say this far too often, ""sometimes total accuracy / being as realistic as possible is a bad thing""

There are times where I think otherwise, it therefore is not a fact, do as you please, at least one person in the world will like your ideas / decisions and vice versa, that little bit of knowledge is what never stops me / will always keep me going

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Re: Priority for Slash "weapon based" attacks?

#5 August 06, 2010, 11:32:27 pm

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2OS said, August 06, 2010, 08:04:43 pm

If some character punches or kicks your sword, why on earth would YOU receive damage ? Makes no sense IMO

That's exactly how I feel!
Thank you for making things a lot clearer for me.

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""sometimes total accuracy / being as realistic as possible is a bad thing""

Seconded!

Thanks for answering, I needed to hear it from another persons viewpoint.

Cyanide

Re: Priority for Slash "weapon based" attacks?

#6 August 06, 2010, 11:37:33 pm

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This has come up previously. The difference here is game accurate and reality accurate. I've said it before about clsn boxes. They're not just meant to be representations of what can and cannot hit/be hit but also to provide some semblance of random movement for both players.

If you punch at someone and they are fractionally below your normal punch, you wouldn't do it anyway, you'd adjust your aim. They also provide some movement within this range of motion.

Basically for swords/weaponry if you're not going to follow the official hitboxes, i would aim to extend clsn2's at least half way up the weapon. I would not however extend red beyond the end of it as if you have utterly infinite priority on all your basics, it gets mean too fast.

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Re: Priority for Slash "weapon based" attacks?

#7 August 06, 2010, 11:45:08 pm

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i would aim to extend clsn2's at least half way up the weapon

By that you mean extend clsn2 from it's arm length toward almost half the sword length but not completely covering clsn1?
Sorry if I miss understood you but I am trying to get the correct idea.

Last Edit: August 07, 2010, 12:00:19 am by -SyN-

Cyanide

Re: Priority for Slash "weapon based" attacks?

#8 August 06, 2010, 11:47:42 pm

Legendary XIII
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Yes, like that.

In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

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Re: Priority for Slash "weapon based" attacks?

#9 August 06, 2010, 11:51:33 pm

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Ok cool.
One more thing, how would you handle long range weapon attacks such as Hiryu's Grahm?

Same rules apply?

Cyanide

Re: Priority for Slash "weapon based" attacks?

#10 August 06, 2010, 11:55:16 pm

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

That is a special. Different rules may apply, I would still extend the clsn2 out. He HAS swung his arms out there. I possibly wouldn't extend the clsn1 right to the end of the attack. But that's just me.

I'm not an expert with hiryu but i imagine he telegraphs that move a bit.

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