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Problems with minoo's Mokou and Mystia (Read 704 times)

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Hihoshi

Problems with minoo's Mokou and Mystia
#1  March 19, 2009, 11:21:19 pm
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Okay, so I copy these two characters and they work fine in Mugen but need Lifebar portraits {I use Kohaku(Hisui)}'s D4 MBAA lifebars.  If I try to open the SFF with fighter factory I get stream read failure, so i got the Mugen Character Maker program which seems to open the files.  Does someone know why after I save the SFF files with MCM when I try to run the character in WinMugen plus Mugen crashes.  I have tried opening the files with fighter factory after saving with MCM and they work fine but refuse to work in WinMugen plus.

PLease Help me.
First I was like: -_-
Then I was like: FUUUUUUU

Seravy

Re: Problems with minoo's Mokou and Mystia
#2  March 28, 2009, 10:32:01 pm
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Go to the characters->SFF Fixes section, and you will find a fix for Mokou and Eirin (they both also have an AI installed, and I fixed their palette unshared problem too)

(I'm about to check Mystia and the rest of Minoo's Tohou characters right now, so there might be one for her later today)

(No idea what was wrong in those SFFs, but they were probably saved by a bugged sff making program or something. After using sffextract on them and then sprmaker, they had no more problems)

Hihoshi

Re: Problems with minoo's Mokou and Mystia
#3  April 01, 2009, 12:52:13 am
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Thank you Seravy  :)  Aargh, sorry Seravy, Internet Explorer and Google Chrome report that your site cannot be found.
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Last Edit: April 01, 2009, 12:55:35 am by Hihoshi

Seravy

Re: Problems with minoo's Mokou and Mystia
#4  April 01, 2009, 01:52:20 pm
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it works properly for me...(I use firefox)

Try again later? Maybe you tried the exact same moment I was uploading the new files?

Hihoshi

Re: Problems with minoo's Mokou and Mystia
#5  April 01, 2009, 02:39:27 pm
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It works now :) , tell me, that miku, is that for the one with all of the mp3's the one that lags between stages?
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Re: Problems with minoo's Mokou and Mystia
#6  April 01, 2009, 09:59:47 pm
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Yeah, that very big one. Unfortunately, that Miku also has several CNS files over a megabyte, so the character still lags with that SFF unless you have a better computer than mine.
The lag between stages would be the loading time I guess, that is somewhat expected for a character of this size. My main problem is she lags during play (1 second of gametime takes about 3-4 seconds to happen), because her CNS contains excessive amounts of code (trigger505=xxx, can you believe that? There are several ones with over 100 triggers...)
Using that SFF will make it lag free if you have a good computer (not the loading time of course), I think. The main thing with SFF files is, if you have over 200 (not an exact number but around that) sprites set on individual palette, the character causes a half second lag whenever a new helper is created (Reason unknown probably mugen engine bug). My fixes have converted/shared palettes to reduce the number below 200. (Miku had over 4500 individual palette sprites)
Unfortunately I can't enjoy the character until I get a new computer (which will happen soon), as removing stuff from CNS files to make it faster is neither easy, not a good idea to do.

Hihoshi

Re: Problems with minoo's Mokou and Mystia
#7  April 01, 2009, 10:25:57 pm
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Oh no, she doesn't lag in play, only between stages.

First I was like: -_-
Then I was like: FUUUUUUU

Seravy

Re: Problems with minoo's Mokou and Mystia
#8  April 02, 2009, 11:12:21 am
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Then, you have a good computer :)
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