Titiln said, January 31, 2014, 11:15:56 pmit's confusing and a stupid joke that ran its course a long time ago.You're not saying that because you have one, are you??And yes I think it is kinda silly now that I look at it.
It being attributed to gay people ( has been done sometimes) is kinda weird for me.feels like singling them out . =|
It's just a fun star. You're reading too much into it. Anyway, message sent so you'll have to put up with it till Val gets back online and see the message.
Saikoro said, January 31, 2014, 11:18:25 pmYou're not saying that because you have one, are you??i've been against the joke ever since it was reinstated
Iced said, January 31, 2014, 11:20:52 pmIt being attributed to gay people ( has been done sometimes) is kinda weird for me.feels like singling them out . =|Bea said, January 23, 2014, 10:23:29 amCapt. Segway said, January 23, 2014, 02:42:56 amBea said, January 22, 2014, 08:03:04 pm地獄の花 said, January 22, 2014, 07:39:58 pmi miss the gay star.I miss it dearly too. For many years I have worn it proudly, but then it was taken away from us.I just had it before it was taken down. We should not stand for this oppression!Yes, we shall not!Let's harass Mr. Jay now that he has admin powers so he brings it back!Bea said, January 23, 2014, 08:33:57 pmOhh, swell, it is back!But why MgBenz doesn't have it? >:CHe has as much right over the gay star as I do! And Mr. Jay too!Bea said, January 24, 2014, 08:07:38 pmI used to wear it as a symbol of LGBT pride, it being all rainbow coloured and what not.This' why I loved it so much.Why do you feel it's an insult.
maybe its not for some, but I know that jmorphman for instance wouldnt want it.I guess i dont mind it being given to who wants it.
Yeah, I'll just give it to anyone that asks. I just thought it was fun to pass around in the random topic.The script is set to change the star every 20 hours to the last person that posted in the Random Thread.
Iced said, January 31, 2014, 11:27:53 pmmaybe its not for some, but I know that jmorphman for instance wouldnt want it.I guess i dont mind it being given to who wants it.Perhaps we could create a new set of rules to who can wear it??
Just No Point said, January 31, 2014, 11:31:03 pmNah, we'll just remove the script and I'll give the star to whomever asks for it.I now foresee the "Super Member Star Request/Recommendation Thread." You heard it here first.
theoretical membergroup post said: DonatorPeople who donated a dollar or two to help Valodim pay for the server and bandwidth. ContributorUsers who have more actively contributed something to the MUGEN community than people who just download stuff and play all day (not that there's anything wrong with users who just want to play!). CotM WinnerWinner of the Character of the Month contest. This is a wandering star, it always belongs to the most recent winner. Wear it proudly! CotY WinnerWinner of the Character of the Year contest. This is a wandering star, it always belongs to the most recent winner. Wear it proudly! MFG Network MemberMembers of the network associated to this forum. Basically, all those listed on the front page. Super MemberThis star is given out to whoever wants it. It is mostly used by homosexual users. but not all of them. WLS Challenge WinnerThis star is given out to whoever won some fucking weird contest idkyeah that's gonna look terrific
I agree. I don't know but for me it's kind of irritating because some people feel so proud of it and then start saying stupid shit over it. And yeah I can see why Iced says it can be insulting, like really. If it was a joke star and then it died it really has no reason to be brought back again.
Get rid of it altogether. Do not give it to people who ask for it. It is pointless and dumb and confusing.And this whole thing about using it to show off gay pride is absolutely ridiculous. I think gay pride is a great thing (spoiler: I'm gay) but that star is not the way to go about showing it. Put a pride flag in your sig or something. The star is dumb and we don't need a special gays only star.
Jmorphman said, February 01, 2014, 12:21:17 amThe star is dumb and we don't need a special gays only star.Well, we can have a gay only star and a normal only star to cover both posibilities
Completely unrelated, but:I think it's dumb that only staff members, the people that won Vans's contest years ago and some completely random guys have acces to custom titles.
Jmorphman said, February 01, 2014, 12:21:17 amGet rid of it altogether. Do not give it to people who ask for it. It is pointless and dumb and confusing.This.
Yase custom titles are stupid. i thought they were completely gone by now. as a user you can freely change:- your username- your avatar- the text under your avatar- your signaturehaving additional text under your username is excessive. nobody should have custom titlesalso jesus fucking christ koldskool's name is unreadable with that color
Yeah... a reason to not to become a donator lolHey! I worked really hard (barely) to get my totally irrelevant custom title! Don't you dare to touch it!
And here I thought you had to fulfill some ridiculous requirement to get a title.No master.def for me.
oh wait the custom title goes between the stars and the text under the avatar? that makes it even more pointless
the worst part about the super star are the people that obsess (or more accurately, have nothing else better to do than to bring it up) over it so if removing it makes that go away (it wont) im for ita purple star is more than enough for yall anywayno real opinion on the titles other than its faster than reviewing the membergroup post?
Why do people call the star confusing? It's a random star. Enlighten me.I had to reply to this.Jmorphman said, February 01, 2014, 12:21:17 amGet rid of it altogether. Do not give it to people who ask for it. It is pointless and dumb and confusing.And this whole thing about using it to show off gay pride is absolutely ridiculous. I think gay pride is a great thing (spoiler: I'm gay) but that star is not the way to go about showing it. Put a pride flag in your sig or something. The star is dumb and we don't need a special gays only star.Wow. Take it easy man. It's not that serious. Really.
You answered your own question right here:Pigeot said, February 01, 2014, 03:08:20 amIt's a random star.
Pigeot said, February 01, 2014, 03:08:20 amWhy do people call the star confusing? It's a random star. Enlighten me.You just answered your question.
What I'm saying is that a random star that is simply there for the purpose of being random is not confusing. It is just random.And calling it confusing--suggesting that it is desturctive-- as a justification for its removal seems histrionic to me. Drama-cannon.
How do you say that?? Something that appears completely randomly while posting IS confusing. I´m not getting your point, you´re just contradicting yourself in there. It makes questions like "what is this?" appear. I find that star unnecessary too.
Contradicting myself? Okay Sherlock.Anyway, the worst that can happen, which would seem to have happened relatively rarely afaik, is that the user that has it asks why he has it; someone will tell him its random; then the world will keep turning like nothing happened.Oh yeah. Go reality.
All petty discussions aside, what really matters is if the star is necessary right? Why not just get rid of it if there is no significant reason for keeping it.Problem solved. It doesn't take a big discussion about a bunch of irrelevant crap to figure this out.
Just reminding that it is going away. I just can't do it. Valodim has to see my message. He has to remove it.
Drex said, January 31, 2014, 11:46:59 pmGive me one. I always thought looked cool and I never thought of it as gay until this thread.Same here, I found it funny and for random instances only since always... but a "gay" star to mock users?? OMG, I've never seen like that, I've been fooled all my forum life here
The Mysterious Fubini said, February 01, 2014, 12:51:21 amI think it's dumb that only staff members, the people that won Vans's contest years ago and some completely random guys have acces to custom titles.I think it was a good idea and motivated people to do stuff, but I don't think they should last forever. This is probably a pretty good time to start removing them; we can then use that star for another contest or something.Pigeot said, February 01, 2014, 03:08:20 amWow. Take it easy man. It's not that serious. Really.I said a few sentences. It's not that serious, why would you think that? It's not like a typed out an essay about the evils of commercialism or something, I just wanted to say that it was never designed nor meant to show off gay pride, so using that as a justification for keeping it was ridiculous. C'mon.Basara "Jojo" Pilgrim said, February 04, 2014, 03:26:32 pmSame here, I found it funny and for random instances only since always... but a "gay" star to mock users?? OMG, I've never seen like that, I've been fooled all my forum life here Did you read literally any of the posts in this thread besides that one.
Of course I did JM, as Drex said (the reason why I quoted him), I always thought that star was an innocent joke just for fun too until I read this thread
Except no one said this star was supposed to be a gay star to mock users. Only that specific users were assimilating it to a gay pride, and then others non-gay people began assimilating it with that too. Just because some people have joked about that, it doesn't mean that's what it's supposed to be.
you can blame bia for that, it was only a random start atributed to a random user as a simple joke; it landed on bia once and bia liked it enought to ask for it; nobod saw any harm on that, foolish they were as it created the biggest flamewar in mugen since mc2 asked for personman to be demoded.
Still no sign of Val yet. He tends to come online once a week. Speaking of the special member status, what ever happened to what that status used to be? Long ago the special member was someone that used to be on the moderator's staff. They still had access to the staff boards but not the moderation tools of a moderator. It's pretty silly to think about now. So it's obvious why it was removed. Probably removed when Guild wiped the forums and changed policies in 2006.
Jmorphman said, February 04, 2014, 04:06:09 pmI think it was a good idea and motivated people to do stuff, but I don't think they should last forever. This is probably a pretty good time to start removing them; we can then use that star for another contest or something.on that same vein i think it's dumb that character of the month and character of the year stars last a month and a year respectively while weird contest winner is eternal. it gives me the idea that winning a weird quiz thing is more important than making the best character in a 365 day period
DKDC said, February 04, 2014, 04:22:07 pmExcept no one said this star was supposed to be a gay star to mock users. Only that specific users were assimilating it to a gay pride, and then others non-gay people began assimilating it with that too. Just because some people have joked about that, it doesn't mean that's what it's supposed to be.Except what it is supposed to be is a terrible incentive to be an idiotWhat we have here folks is a lose lose situation
c001357 said, February 04, 2014, 06:36:08 pm"none can own me, and i will never own anybody"That was so deep only I couldve thought to quote that
Titiln said, February 04, 2014, 04:36:46 pmJmorphman said, February 04, 2014, 04:06:09 pmI think it was a good idea and motivated people to do stuff, but I don't think they should last forever. This is probably a pretty good time to start removing them; we can then use that star for another contest or something.on that same vein i think it's dumb that character of the month and character of the year stars last a month and a year respectively while weird contest winner is eternal. it gives me the idea that winning a weird quiz thing is more important than making the best character in a 365 day periodThat bothers me tbh, I always thought it was kind of dumb that the COTM winner star has to get passed around, would be nice if every winner could keep it you know? It's not really that easy to win that contest...Also not to mention some people didn't even get that star at all because SOMEONE forgot to pass it around.
Just No Point said, February 05, 2014, 12:20:28 amOh, talking to Val. He removed it a few days ago.Yeaaaaah... about that...Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Jmorphman said, February 04, 2014, 04:06:09 pmPigeot said, February 01, 2014, 03:08:20 amWow. Take it easy man. It's not that serious. Really.I said a few sentences. It's not that serious, why would you think that? It's not like a typed out an essay about the evils of commercialism or something, I just wanted to say that it was never designed nor meant to show off gay pride, so using that as a justification for keeping it was ridiculous. C'mon.But the people who were calling it a gay star were speaking facetiously. Your response would suggest that you took their responses seriously… too seriously —except in Basara’s case, but Basara’s a bit of a nut [/jkI'm pretty sure Bea wasn't serious.
Caddie's the only person being particularly facetious about this.Lithium Flower said, February 05, 2014, 12:43:22 amThat bothers me tbh, I always thought it was kind of dumb that the COTM winner star has to get passed around, would be nice if every winner could keep it you know? It's not really that easy to win that contest...I think the star would eventually start to lose meaning if we did that.Lithium Flower said, February 05, 2014, 12:43:22 amAlso not to mention some people didn't even get that star at all because SOMEONE forgot to pass it around. I'm going to murder you with a large knife.
Jmorphman said, February 05, 2014, 03:57:46 pmI think the star would eventually start to lose meaning if we did that.No more so than the Contributor star IMO, and the CotM is more important because it's something that was actually voted as the best of that month. And it's only 12 guys a month at best (less if it's the same guy several times), plus one per year. Sure there would be something like 60 guys with it after 5 years, but it's not different from the Contributor star IMO.At the most, the monthly star can be removed after a year, and the yearly star, never, but removing the monthly star at the end of the month makes it completely unnoticeable IMO, which just makes it useless. People don't check people's stars that often, no one would ever realize that someone won it for a month.
i agree with the above. the current way COTM stars are is kind of pointless. worst case scenario 60 people will have it in 5 years. alternatively just don't use them at all
I wanted the stars to be forever initially, but everyone said no. Once again proving that I'm the most insightful person on the staff. Promote me to super admin please.
I guess a month is maybe too short, but I still don't think they should last forever; IIRC the reasoning behind making them temporary was that we wanted to keep people motivated to still keep reaching for the star (it's a dumb tiny star yeah and not that important, but I dunno I want it back).A year is probably fair, I guess?
maximilianjenus said, February 04, 2014, 04:27:02 pmyou can blame bia for that, it was only a random start atributed to a random user as a simple joke; it landed on bia once and bia liked it enought to ask for it; nobod saw any harm on that, foolish they were as it created the biggest flamewar in mugen since mc2 asked for personman to be demoded.That was likethe internet equivalent of yesterday.That's like saying 'this is the best meal I've eaten since the last meal I've eaten'what are you doing.
Jmorphman said, February 05, 2014, 05:25:16 pmIIRC the reasoning behind making them temporary was that we wanted to keep people motivated to still keep reaching for the starEven though that makes a lot of sense, I'll still go back to comparing it to the Contributor star. I haven't actually released anything in half a decade and I still have mine ! Where's my incentive. I think keeping it is worth it because it seems like a pretty good achievement to have some pride for. Removing it makes you feel forgotten. ... I'd guess.
Your incentive is to get off your butt and make a character that's good enough to win CotM! That Jin topic has been open for a while, you must not be serious about wanting the star!!!
You busted me, I've been holding out in hope the star becomes permanent before releasing it ! So do it or you're never getting the finished release
Goodbye, good ol' friend. It was nice to see you around again, even if for this short bit. You will always have a place in my memories.You were a good companion to have ahead during the start of my transition. I raise a glass of good wine for you.Fare thee well, rainbow star.
in the spirit of COTM, why don't you make a poll to decide how long the stars should last (month, year, forever)
Titiln said, February 06, 2014, 02:24:21 amin the spirit of COTM, why don't you make a poll to decide how long the stars should last (month, year, forever)LET'S DO IT
Jmorphman said, February 05, 2014, 03:57:46 pmI'm going to murder you with a large knife.Watta said, February 04, 2014, 06:58:42 pmJust give me the star if you don't want it so badly
btw you're not taking my damn WLS star.He's my friend, gaddammit. Plus, it's orange and that's school colors.
PG_Kamiya said, February 07, 2014, 05:10:10 amHe's my friend, gaddammit.stop the presses he's in love
Van's said, February 08, 2014, 11:35:50 pmI want the rainbow star, it's fancy as fuck.well too bad for you that fun is against the rules here ar MFG
Stop doing that strike out text gimmick, it's annoying. If you really don't want people to know what you think ALL THE TIME, just don't post at all.
walt said, February 12, 2014, 05:05:48 pmStop doing that strike out text gimmick, it's annoying. If you really don't want people to know what you think ALL THE TIME, just don't post at all.Why does it matter to you how he posts? Don't read them if they annoy you.
Many people hate gimmicks for no reason. I don't see why walt finally expressing that is of any surprise. He probably hated it since day one.
walt said, February 12, 2014, 05:05:48 pmStop doing that strike out text gimmick, it's annoying. i agree with this, although i don't find it that annoying but i do find it very unfunny and drawn out at this point
I've got no stance on it besides the fact he does it nearly all the time, but a) I don't think this is the proper thread to start this discussion b) you gotta just let people do them sometimes. For example that Doraemon guy's very posts are the epitome of annoying but I can't really do anything about him posting just cause I find him annoying...
Well the point is finding shit annoying is something you just gotta deal with sometimes (or just ignore) There is plenty of annoying stuff in this world and if we spent everytime trying to start a dialogue on shit we find annoying this world would be unproductive as fuckIn fact I should be writing my essay right now, owned
All I'm saying it has become too notoriousAlso, for someone who rose to MFG stardom by laying the truth smackdown, you're sure as hell behaving weird when someone does it I'm not trying to steal your spotlight here, it's consistent to my MFG storyline through the years.
I didn't want to rise to mfg stardom, it was never my intention to be known for that and I have no desire to be known as the guy who lays truth smackdowns. I will call things as I see it, will moderate based on good judgement, and do what I think to be right. My job here is to help out the community, not be the guy who facilitates the truth smackdown era of guild. Those truth smackdowns were the result of me being fed up with the bullshit many members pulled. On the other hand, all you're doing is griping about a post gimmick. It's not really the same case. Despite all that, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Just because I posted a couple rants doesn't mean I can't find what you're doing kinda pointless. Posted: February 12, 2014, 08:01:36 pmbefore this escalates tho, i am not trying to start shit between us. you and titiln are certainly entitled to your opinions on lame posting gimmicks. however even if i weren't gmod i'd still be saying exactly what i said now. i don't believe its pressing enough to warrant a real discussion over. in fact i feel very foolish for drawing this out myself. so you all have my apologies for that lol.
Umezono said, February 12, 2014, 07:47:23 pmThose truth smackdowns were the result of me being fed up with the bullshit many members pulled. Just because I posted a couple rants doesn't mean I can't find what you're doing kinda pointless. i don't believe its pressing enough to warrant a real discussion over.Well the point is finding shit pointess is something you just gotta deal with sometimes (or just ignore). <-- See how it works both ways? I'm fed up of CAN's gimmick too, and I react just as you did. You could just as easily not participate of my rant, address my post, and let C.A.N. sink my post in if he wants to. He could just as easily ignore it just as well, and I wouldn't be replying to anybody's messages, and in time with enough ignoring, it could become a non-issue
I'd definitely argue that MDI and a bunch of veterans trashing newbies over the content they bring to the table is awful and way more detrimental than strike through posts. I wasn't ranting over a gimmick. I was ranting over a real issue. But if you see it that way, I respect that. I will leave you alone on this one.
walt said, February 12, 2014, 07:41:27 pmAll I'm saying it has become too notoriousAlso, for someone who rose to MFG stardom by laying the truth smackdown, you're sure as hell behaving weird when someone does it I'm not trying to steal your spotlight here, it's consistent to my MFG storyline through the years.you made a chart? Don't they keep you busy enough at work?
wow, this spawned 6 pages of discussion? sheesh.for reference, the super member star was given to whoever made the last post in random topic at 9 o'clock UTC. I just put a quick query in a cronjob and slightly messed up some at the beginning, I think it was not removed properly for a while so multiple people had it? or maybe some admin gave it out randomly as well, not sure. I have no idea where the part about gay people even came from.also what the fuck post gimmick charts. srsly
MissBmorphersonMan said, February 12, 2014, 09:54:03 pmDon't they keep you busy enough at work?Not on wednesdays baby.
You could always find something more fulfilling to do with your timeEnjoy some lunch, catch up on the Olympics, write a poem
walt said, February 12, 2014, 05:05:48 pmStop doing that strike out text gimmick, it's annoying. If you really don't want people to know what you think ALL THE TIME, just don't post at all.^
Umezono said, February 12, 2014, 10:25:49 pmYou could always find something more fulfilling to do with your timeEnjoy some lunch, catch up on the Olympics, write a poemthat's what happens when they block porn at work.
Umezono said, February 12, 2014, 10:25:49 pmYou could always find something more fulfilling to do with your timeEnjoy some lunch, catch up on the Olympics, write a poemDude, you moderate a forum about a fighting game engine that can't be used for commercial purposes. I don't think you're in a position to tell anybody to do better things with their time.
Graphing someone gimmicks is a better use of time than trying to do manteinance on a online community, ok
Actually, if you think about it, walt did something far worse than the spreadsheet. He actually took the time to read (Or at least check) C.A.N.'s last 100 posts. Now THAT'S some serious waste of time!
walt says things about the staff and i pester him for examples and evidenceon a separate instance walt says things about a staff member and provides examples and evidence and everyone makes fun of him for itit is difficult being walt
i think it was mostly the spreadsheet, not the argument itselfagain it wasnt my intention to demean the argument itself as well.
maximilianjenus said, February 13, 2014, 03:49:48 amnot really , it's hard to beat reading 100 can posts with anything not involving reading can posts.I'm sorry, I make 8K line sheets every day. Skimming through 5 pages of posts looking for strikethrough lines took me no more than fucking 2 minutes.Spending 2 minutes to avoid having Titiln hounding my ass about hyperbolic comments are 2 minutes well spent.
