The Mugen Fighters Guild - Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

Bastard Walt

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#41 April 28, 2008, 07:12:43 pm

ALE ALEJANDRO

1time said, April 28, 2008, 07:09:54 pm

He's also the nicest person on the internet I've ever seen. To me, he deserves the respect of having his creations remain as they are. (Which is pretty damn good.)

But but but
His creations will remain as they are!

"We live in a world of perpetual outrage"

1time

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#42 April 28, 2008, 07:18:16 pm

walt said, April 28, 2008, 07:12:43 pm

1time said, April 28, 2008, 07:09:54 pm
He's also the nicest person on the internet I've ever seen. To me, he deserves the respect of having his creations remain as they are. (Which is pretty damn good.)
But but but
His creations will remain as they are!

You know what I mean. This is a self imposed way of remembering the guy that along with Splode made me want to make chars for mugen. Just to reiterate, this is my personal view and the reason I voted the way I did. People have all kinds of opinions, and mine isn't always right. (Usually, but not always.

) It's just what I choose to do.

Jango Hakamichi

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#43 April 28, 2008, 07:51:36 pm

[The only one worthy of my love!]

Laxxe23 said, April 28, 2008, 02:51:58 pm

wow, this thread is attracting leechers from every corner, warner please consider looking for another coder it would lighten the load on everything, or if this eventually happens at least keep the name that appears as reu's evil homer and allow others to recode it into something else, maybe have azcal or someone that makes tough ai's do the ai, but i honestly recomend not releasing this to the public, but then again leechers are the majority,
warner at least answer this question, why dont you let someone else work on the coding? and let the tribute be the tough ai?

1) Why would it be Reu's "Evil Homer?" If anything, it would be "Evil Homer by Reu and Warner," as has been done countless times before. Or if you want to get technical, "Evil Homer, based on Evil Ken by Reu, updated by Warner."
2) Why does Evil Homer need a tougher AI than what Evil Ken has already?

Bastard Mami

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#44 April 28, 2008, 07:53:21 pm

Just do not name it reu's evil homer please.

Last Edit: April 28, 2008, 08:21:35 pm by Satou Sei

prof. mugen

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#45 April 28, 2008, 08:00:37 pm

Merry Christmas.

Satou Sei said, April 28, 2008, 07:53:21 pm

Just do not name reu's evil homer please.

i agree

Makkah

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#46 April 28, 2008, 08:31:08 pm

Humanity can be so much more

I don't usually get into these arguments, but here's the thing: "right" and "wrong" are relative to the individual. What is "right" to someone may be "wrong" to someone else, and vice-versa. Warner, if you want to release EH, fine. If not, that is fine as well. I really don't care, and I'm not taking sides with anyone. Reu isn't here to express whether or not he approves of this, but wasn't his policy that his code could be used no sweat, but sprites and everything else were off limits without permission? Do what you think is ethically "right", and do not simply rely on others to dictate what you should or should not do (so long as you are within the rules, which you seem to be).

BTW, I've only spoken to Reu a few times, and quite frankly he always seemed to lol at mugen drama.

Rote Zaungast

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#47 April 28, 2008, 08:36:29 pm

to sum it up, I wasn't going to say it but, isn't the death of someone enough to respect the last words you've heard from him that he can't speak for anymore and never cross the lines?
please understand why he asked that, he too had his own reasons, he wanted his work not to be edited no matter what.
the least hommage will be to listen to his words, because people will try to do something out of ordinary thinking it would be better than what the person asked for, but you have only to respect what he said, no disrespect, no jumping to what you may think would make things better.
his work lies in the essence of the impression his chars give, to mention that we don't speak of works being edited means they will still be intact, the essence doesn't lie in the code, it lies in the gameplay

there's a bunch of good things in this life that everyone can have the pleasure to practice and have, but when they are forbidden by the standards and the morals...you should then know they are forbidden for a reason and their being good for your interests and your being able to access them doesn't mean you can cross the lines to get them

come on! it shouldn't be that hard to hold yourself from something not even worth the stuff of life, and sticking to it as if your life depends on it, it's somewhat selfish...that's nothing compared to one of the wishes of a Great person that is no longer from this world

also saying EK served as a base...well, it's the whole thing in it, "base" implies taking the sufficient stuff to avoid the malfunctioning of the build, not the whole thing then painting it with a different color

people like that evil homer because of his sprites, the sprites Warner made, so they should be released to the public as a spritepack in case no one volunteered to code it, as something that everyone would love and which will get no percentage of hate from others...isn't this a better solution?

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Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#48 April 28, 2008, 08:43:22 pm

My college nickname was bi pod

Warner said, April 28, 2008, 09:31:53 am

blah blah blah

You are one of the worst attention whores i have seen, seriously.

Welcome to Alu's world !!

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Laxxe23

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#49 April 28, 2008, 09:18:51 pm

Aka ShadesTeam/Zeckle

Imposter Titiln said, April 28, 2008, 07:51:36 pm

Laxxe23 said, April 28, 2008, 02:51:58 pm
wow, this thread is attracting leechers from every corner, warner please consider looking for another coder it would lighten the load on everything, or if this eventually happens at least keep the name that appears as reu's evil homer and allow others to recode it into something else, maybe have azcal or someone that makes tough ai's do the ai, but i honestly recomend not releasing this to the public, but then again leechers are the majority,
warner at least answer this question, why dont you let someone else work on the coding? and let the tribute be the tough ai?

1) Why would it be Reu's "Evil Homer?" If anything, it would be "Evil Homer by Reu and Warner," as has been done countless times before. Or if you want to get technical, "Evil Homer, based on Evil Ken by Reu, updated by Warner."
2) Why does Evil Homer need a tougher AI than what Evil Ken has already?

2)im saying dont spriteswap, just code ai that rivals(in a good way) that of evil ken and have that be the tribute part

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PotS

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#50 April 28, 2008, 09:22:58 pm

The poll is rigged, all options eventually lead to C.

Use anything you want from my works. If you need to contact me use email, not private messages.

Jango Hakamichi

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#51 April 28, 2008, 09:29:03 pm

[The only one worthy of my love!]

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A) Yes
B) Kinda
C) A & B
D) Undecided

vyn

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#52 April 28, 2008, 09:34:53 pm

cracks me up how KFM talks about reu now that he is gone like they were homeys and goin "the great reu" plz...

warner saca a tu personaje si lo deseas, el mismo reu dijo que estaria dispuesto a dejar que alguien usara a sus personajes si ofrecian un concepto interesante (dijo esto acerca de su dragon claw), cosa de decir q es un edit y ya q importa lo q diga gente q solo quiere lllamar la atencion

Ridureyu

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#53 April 28, 2008, 09:35:42 pm

Sucks to your Numerology!

Someone needs to put this whole thread on Fandom Wank.

Now you can never unsee it.

BC

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#54 April 28, 2008, 09:43:04 pm

in my last opinion, he should be called "evil homer" and have in the readme file(for people who dont know) coding by reuben kee

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Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#55 April 28, 2008, 10:12:35 pm

TYRANNOSAURUS

I think i need a red cloth to deal with all this bull.

it could simply be a char that you'd have to ask warner for, or it could be in a private section of his website. whoever wants it, can ask for the password from warner.
better yet, when warner makes the rar, he could have it so that only a readme is extracted, explaining a little about Reu and all that(a "tribute"), explain Reu made all the coding, et cetera, et cetera, and then give the password at the end, make it "Reuben Kee" or i dunno, whatever you want.

that would give ultimate credit to reuben kee, and everyone would know that warner based it on reu's work.

you could also add storyboards with something like in memory of reu at the beginning or something.

i don't know, i just don't see why we can't come up with a good mutual compromise.

also, +1 to kfm for posting a quote from star trek=)
and +1 to sepp for being the ultimate metaphysical philosoraptor to ever set foot on a mugen forum.

felineki

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#56 April 28, 2008, 10:47:56 pm

Online

I never cared for Reu's characters. But I don't support ripping them off.

Siebzehn

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#57 April 28, 2008, 10:49:57 pm

Three times thicker font than a normal user.

aeommai said, April 28, 2008, 10:12:35 pm

better yet, when warner makes the rar, he could have it so that only a readme is extracted, explaining a little about Reu and all that(a "tribute"), explain Reu made all the coding, et cetera, et cetera, and then give the password at the end, make it "Reuben Kee" or i dunno, whatever you want.

I bet if he did that, people would warehouse it (or want it warehoused) because they don't know the password to extract the rest of the file, even if the readme was readable.

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Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#58 April 28, 2008, 10:56:43 pm

Imposter Titiln said, April 28, 2008, 09:29:03 pm

POLL: Do you believe in Aliens?!

A) Yes
B) Kinda
C) A & B
D) Undecided

A

Hey, this is a humongous universe with billions of galaxies. Some other planets would likely have living lifeforms.

That or illegal immigrants.

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Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#59 April 28, 2008, 11:00:02 pm

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Wait a minute...

Laxxe23 said, April 28, 2008, 09:18:51 pm

Imposter Titiln said, April 28, 2008, 07:51:36 pm
Laxxe23 said, April 28, 2008, 02:51:58 pm
wow, this thread is attracting leechers from every corner, warner please consider looking for another coder it would lighten the load on everything, or if this eventually happens at least keep the name that appears as reu's evil homer and allow others to recode it into something else, maybe have azcal or someone that makes tough ai's do the ai, but i honestly recomend not releasing this to the public, but then again leechers are the majority,
warner at least answer this question, why dont you let someone else work on the coding? and let the tribute be the tough ai?

1) Why would it be Reu's "Evil Homer?" If anything, it would be "Evil Homer by Reu and Warner," as has been done countless times before. Or if you want to get technical, "Evil Homer, based on Evil Ken by Reu, updated by Warner."
2) Why does Evil Homer need a tougher AI than what Evil Ken has already?
2)im saying dont spriteswap, just code ai that rivals(in a good way) that of evil ken and have that be the tribute part

You can make a tribute to someone, simply by having similar coding?

Several characters certainly have coding that rivals Evil Ken's, but I doubt quite seriously that they are considered tributes.

If this is really meant as a tribute, I would see tampering with the code as kind of defeating the purpose. The closer to the original coding you get, the better the tribute will be; and likewise the farther away from the original coding you go, the worse the tribute is going to be.
So the trick is to get as close to the original coding as possible, while tampering with it enough so that it performs in a way unlike the original?

Which do you think Reu would rather see:

1. A spriteswap of his character?

or

2. A spriteswap of his character stapled to a cheap copy of his AI?

From a logistics standpoint, in the later choice, Warner wouldn't even have to give any credit to Reu. It is simply an original character with an AI that is oddly similar to Reu's. Now wouldn't that be distasteful.

Furthermore, as many others have probably already stated, I believe Warner is doing this in good faith. It is unlikely that he will run through the town proclaiming himself to be the new Reu because he made a spriteswap tribute.

I really have no opinion in the matter, continue to argue if you wish.

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JNi

Re: Reu's Evil Homer, share or not to share ?

#60 April 28, 2008, 11:09:03 pm

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